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Post by Mark Brown on Jun 5, 2008 20:48:49 GMT
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Post by Matthew Brannigan on Jun 5, 2008 22:23:52 GMT
Great news - exciting stuff - many thanks for the link!
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jun 5, 2008 22:27:46 GMT
Fascinating stuff - great to see actual examples of it in action. I think the results look pretty good.
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Post by Greg H on Jun 6, 2008 7:46:39 GMT
Its really a very exciting prospect. You have to marvel at the technological prowess that has made this possible. In all sincerity im massively impressed by the work of these guys!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2008 10:12:10 GMT
I was looking at this myself. Amazing news! Potentially it opens the way for literally hundreds of shows to be restored to colour that currently only exist as b/w t/rs (e.g. Top Of The Pops, Year Of The Sex Olympics, various single plays, numerous sitcoms and dramas etc. etc.) Used in conjunction with Vidfire, it should be possible to restore a look and quality very much like the original versions. Thanks to James Insell and the team for their persistence and hard work on perfecting this technique - I know there is still some way to go yet but it seems that the work has definitely taken a giant leap forward now.
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Post by Mark Brown on Jun 6, 2008 14:39:03 GMT
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Post by Greg H on Jun 6, 2008 17:20:22 GMT
Wow!!! Year of the sex oltmpics!! Finally in colour!! I didnt think I'd actually ever see that! I bet the sets and costumes are going to look well impressive when it happens!!!!! EEEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
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Post by David Barron on Jun 6, 2008 18:02:55 GMT
From the look at what has been done so far is impressive, but I think it is going to take a while before they become available on DVD/Blu-Ray whatever is going to come along.
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Post by Peter Elliott on Jun 6, 2008 18:27:01 GMT
Wow!!! Year of the sex oltmpics!! Finally in colour!! I didnt think I'd actually ever see that! I bet the sets and costumes are going to look well impressive when it happens!!!!! EEEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!! I'm not too sure about that actually. Recently it was claimed that the excellent restorations by the Doctor Who Restoration Team had resulted in many flaws becoming much clearer than they were on b+w t/r's, notably cheap sets! A classic example being the blank set used in the first episode of "The Mind Robber". On the VHS video - unprocessed, it's genuinely believable that the characters are in some void with these robots. Restored and vidfired though you can see the borders of the set and it now looks like some actors on a blank BBC set where you can clearly see the white cloth and the floor! It does lose some of it's mystique, though that is how it actually was back in 1968! I'd imagine YOTSO would look fantastic restored to colour but would maybe suffer and look cheaper, if you know what I mean. Having said that, I don't have a problem with that and whatever can be done to restore shows back to colour glory is very worthwhile and I wish this team working on that problem all the very best... what they have achieved so far is incredible. |
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Post by jackblack on Jun 6, 2008 21:39:01 GMT
This really is extraordinary. A show (which presently only exists in monochrome) which I'd like to see is "Spyder's Web". Maybe if its colour was restored Network might consider releasing it, please!
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Post by Greg H on Jun 6, 2008 22:35:35 GMT
Wow!!! Year of the sex oltmpics!! Finally in colour!! I didnt think I'd actually ever see that! I bet the sets and costumes are going to look well impressive when it happens!!!!! EEEEEEEKKKKKKK!!!!!!! I'm not too sure about that actually. Recently it was claimed that the excellent restorations by the Doctor Who Restoration Team had resulted in many flaws becoming much clearer than they were on b+w t/r's, notably cheap sets! A classic example being the blank set used in the first episode of "The Mind Robber". On the VHS video - unprocessed, it's genuinely believable that the characters are in some void with these robots. Restored and vidfired though you can see the borders of the set and it now looks like some actors on a blank BBC set where you can clearly see the white cloth and the floor! It does lose some of it's mystique, though that is how it actually was back in 1968! I'd imagine YOTSO would look fantastic restored to colour but would maybe suffer and look cheaper, if you know what I mean. Having said that, I don't have a problem with that and whatever can be done to restore shows back to colour glory is very worthwhile and I wish this team working on that problem all the very best... what they have achieved so far is incredible. Hmmm. Fair points. I will still be very interested to see what happens with this. To be honest I use a black and white set for telly at home anyway, so its not like I mind b&w really  Still it will be very interesting to see how this develops and what the end results will be like. |
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Post by RWels on Jun 7, 2008 10:40:55 GMT
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Post by Peter Roberts on Jun 7, 2008 23:15:30 GMT
SpinyNorman, that is a different project. The web site relevant to the original post has been updated many times in recent weeks. See colour-recovery.wikispaces.com/Full+gamut+colour+recoveryThe one you posted detailed an approach for recolourisation (treating neighboring pixels in space-time similarly), not for colour recovery. |
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Post by RWels on Jun 7, 2008 23:21:49 GMT
So? It is a bit on the sideline, but I thought it looked interesting. It could be used on items that were meant to be in colour.
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Post by StevePhillips on Jun 8, 2008 19:19:11 GMT
This really is extraordinary. A show (which presently only exists in monochrome) which I'd like to see is "Spyder's Web". Maybe if its colour was restored Network might consider releasing it, please! It relies upon the film recording (even though b/w) still containing the 4.43MHz colour carrier (which can be though of as a 4.43MHz "wiggle" applied to the black and white signal amplitude. The amplitude of this wiggle, and its phase relationship to the colour burst, give the remaining two variables required (along with the luminence) to eventually give the three RGB signals sent to the tube). Sometimes the 4.43MHz carried would be stripped out prior to the film recording process, sometimes not. Only recordings where this in intact can be restored in this way. So programmes like you mention may, or may not, be restorable in this manner. |
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Still it will be very interesting to see how this develops and what the end results will be like.