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Post by beckps on Mar 29, 2008 8:59:46 GMT
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Post by Rich Cornock on Mar 29, 2008 10:31:00 GMT
very interesting, this may well bring some finds out into the open........or it could just attract some cranks and rip off merchants
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Post by John Andersen on Mar 29, 2008 19:50:14 GMT
Ian Levine is offering a higher price than that, but nobody has come forward. It can't hurt to advertise since no episodes are being recovered by other methods. Just as long as they watch the film before actually paying for it, it should be ok.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Mar 30, 2008 11:18:45 GMT
Found this online - it's to the point! Does advertising a high price like this encourage people to part or keep hold of any missing episodes they have? It isn't a high price though. $1500 Hong Kong Dollars equates to around £96. Richard
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Post by Daniel O'Brien on Mar 30, 2008 11:30:49 GMT
Found this online - it's to the point! Does advertising a high price like this encourage people to part or keep hold of any missing episodes they have? It isn't a high price though. $1500 Hong Kong Dollars equates to around £96. Richard The advertiser is based in the USA and may be referring to US$, though this isn't clear. I'd be surprised if there are many 16mm film collectors in Hong Kong - the humid climate makes preservation problematic - and amazed if anyone owns 1960s 'Doctor Who' material, missing or otherwise.
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Post by Rich Cornock on Mar 30, 2008 16:58:21 GMT
got to to give the man credit for trying. recon things like this are more likely to unearth missing items than typing on this forum (i include myself here!)
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Post by Brian Wilson on Mar 30, 2008 17:21:56 GMT
Ian Levine is offering a higher price than that, but nobody has come forward. It can't hurt to advertise since no episodes are being recovered by other methods. Just as long as they watch the film before actually paying for it, it should be ok. Is Ian Levine offering a higher price than that? Has he actually publicised this offer anywhere? I don't think he has...in which case it is hardly surprising that nobody has come forward.
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Post by beckps on Mar 30, 2008 18:12:07 GMT
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Post by John Andersen on Mar 30, 2008 19:00:39 GMT
Ian Levine is offering a higher price than that, but nobody has come forward. It can't hurt to advertise since no episodes are being recovered by other methods. Just as long as they watch the film before actually paying for it, it should be ok. Is Ian Levine offering a higher price than that? Has he actually publicised this offer anywhere? I don't think he has...in which case it is hardly surprising that nobody has come forward. I think his offer is 2,000 pounds per episode. That is equivalent to about 3,900 dollars.
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Post by Ash Stewart on Mar 31, 2008 11:14:00 GMT
Yeah, £2,000.
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Post by Doug Wulf on Mar 31, 2008 14:42:05 GMT
I applaud your efforts. There is a tiny chance that someone with some knowledge of a missing episode might see your posting. The difficulty though will be that it is more likely that a hoaxer will see your posting on this website than it is that a 16mm collector will see your episode on those Asian websites. The result is that someone may email you: "I have this old film can that says 'Massacre -- Bell of Doom'. Is that something you might want to buy?" and it will just be someone playing games, seeing if they can trick you into sending them some money, etc. "The print is as my friend's house now, but I'll take a look at it when I visit him in two weeks." -- "I was sick this week, so I won't visit until Thursday." -- "I forgot to bring my 16mm projector with me, so I couldn't take a look at the print." etc. etc. etc. That's why I personally don't want to put myself out there with offers to buy missing material directly. The problem of dealing with disgusting hoaxers is a given. I would therefore rather just direct potential leads to the BBC. Hoaxers may try their games with the RT and the BBC also, but I think that prospect may often be less attractive to them (less "fun") than tricking some Doctor Who fan offering money. (Obviously, there have been hoaxes of the BBC in the past too, but maybe they have gotten better at dealing with them at least.) Doug
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Post by William Martin on Mar 31, 2008 15:04:23 GMT
very interesting, this may well bring some finds out into the open........or it could just attract some cranks and rip off merchants It may, it may......
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Post by beckps on Mar 31, 2008 15:25:08 GMT
Re dougwulf's comment - I'm not actually the person responsible for the adverts! I found them online and posted them here for others to discuss. My thoughts were that advertising such a price may encourage anyone with a missing episode to keep it in the hopes of getting more money. Secondly, what's to say that if the advertiser does indeed strike it lucky, they are going to make any find available to the BBC or wider public? I had wondered if the advertiser was someone known to the users of this forum???
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Post by John Andersen on Mar 31, 2008 21:06:09 GMT
Re dougwulf's comment - I'm not actually the person responsible for the adverts! I found them online and posted them here for others to discuss. My thoughts were that advertising such a price may encourage anyone with a missing episode to keep it in the hopes of getting more money. Secondly, what's to say that if the advertiser does indeed strike it lucky, they are going to make any find available to the BBC or wider public? I had wondered if the advertiser was someone known to the users of this forum??? Why not ask him? His e-mail is in the advertisement. If he is offering $1,500 USD for each episode, then purchasing episodes and then turning them over to Ian Levine for 2,000 pounds each would be a little profit to buy more finds in the future.
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Post by John Andersen on Mar 31, 2008 21:11:03 GMT
I applaud your efforts. There is a tiny chance that someone with some knowledge of a missing episode might see your posting. The difficulty though will be that it is more likely that a hoaxer will see your posting on this website than it is that a 16mm collector will see your episode on those Asian websites. The result is that someone may email you: "I have this old film can that says 'Massacre -- Bell of Doom'. Is that something you might want to buy?" and it will just be someone playing games, seeing if they can trick you into sending them some money, etc. "The print is as my friend's house now, but I'll take a look at it when I visit him in two weeks." -- "I was sick this week, so I won't visit until Thursday." -- "I forgot to bring my 16mm projector with me, so I couldn't take a look at the print." etc. etc. etc. That's why I personally don't want to put myself out there with offers to buy missing material directly. The problem of dealing with disgusting hoaxers is a given. I would therefore rather just direct potential leads to the BBC. Hoaxers may try their games with the RT and the BBC also, but I think that prospect may often be less attractive to them (less "fun") than tricking some Doctor Who fan offering money. (Obviously, there have been hoaxes of the BBC in the past too, but maybe they have gotten better at dealing with them at least.) Doug In this type of situation, the advertiser must be extremely careful. Money should never be handed over until the item is confirmed as the genuine article. If he is not allowed to see what he is purchasing, then that is a red flag that he is being hoaxed.
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