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Post by Joe Haynes on Sept 17, 2007 11:26:35 GMT
To be honest i can see why this was axed. It must have had low ratings. Im sure that the public wont be interested in archive material like the rest of us. There more interested in Big Brother and Crap like that
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Post by lpmoderator on Sept 17, 2007 11:54:47 GMT
More like they got fed up with seeing the same clips over and over again, as we did! If the general public had even a passing interest in vintage pop though (which is a broad interest, much wider than archive TV), they'd have recorded all the stuff of interest to them ages ago and cottoned on that it just became a case of rehashing the rehashes. The format wasn't very good either, so it's not a great surprise that it's ended. The BBC had a much better formula for longevity with Sounds Of The Sixties but perplexingly it never returned for further series.
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Post by Peter Elliott on Sept 17, 2007 13:01:51 GMT
TOTP2 was a sham. For a few years there were endless complaints about the same clips being shown over and over, the irrelevant onscreen "info" captions and the gratingly smug Steve Wright voiceovers. It was taken off the air for some time - ideal chance to revamp the show but when it returned it was more of the same old same old and viewers simply got fed up of it and the viewing figures plummeted.
"Sounds Of The Sixties" and its 70s counterpart were wonderful and an ideal format to screen archive music clips and its a real pity the BBC don't bother to return to that format.
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Sept 17, 2007 14:35:15 GMT
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Post by Joe Haynes on Sept 18, 2007 8:50:01 GMT
Im sure they did listen but they would of had to put captions over the top because if they ddidnt the shows would get heavily bootlegged which would make the artist pissed off more with the BBC
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Sept 18, 2007 9:40:08 GMT
Im sure they did listen but they would of had to put captions over the top because if they ddidnt the shows would get heavily bootlegged which would make the artist pissed off more with the BBC I take it You aint seen the amount of TOTP2 on youtube? Your point being that if they didn't add the stupid captions (with useless info anyway) people would record them. Sounds of....... didn't use captions or voiceovers and people STILL taped the series. TOTP2 didn't show that much in terms of unseen footage really, most of it had already been seen on the UK Gold re-runs sounds of the 60's 70's & 80's and such like years before TOTP2 started. And now on UKG2 you can see it all AGAIN. |
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Post by robb on Sept 18, 2007 12:26:38 GMT
it would have been good to have had a show that asked viewers to send in their old tapes, and had the obligatory "do not adjust your set, this might be a bumpy ride" now that would be worth watching
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Post by Joe Haynes on Sept 18, 2007 12:47:49 GMT
Im sure they did listen but they would of had to put captions over the top because if they ddidnt the shows would get heavily bootlegged which would make the artist pissed off more with the BBC I take it You aint seen the amount of TOTP2 on youtube? Your point being that if they didn't add the stupid captions (with useless info anyway) people would record them. Sounds of....... didn't use captions or voiceovers and people STILL taped the series. TOTP2 didn't show that much in terms of unseen footage really, most of it had already been seen on the UK Gold re-runs sounds of the 60's 70's & 80's and such like years before TOTP2 started. And now on UKG2 you can see it all AGAIN. youtube doesnt really count as bootlegging because of the crap quality of the clips. As a bootlegg collector myself when getting or compiling Top of the Pops performances then dvds tend to not contain Top of the Pops 2 clips mainly because people prefer to have it looking as original as possible. But besides that im still sure the captions would be added because of stress from the record companies. |
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Sept 18, 2007 15:29:21 GMT
A bootleg recording is an audio and/or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist, or under other legal authority. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_recordingAnything recorded off TV is regarded as a bootleg and most youtube clips come from home recordings. Now if the artists were even remotely interested in having their archive performances tx'd on shows like TOTP2 etc with the captions to prevent copying & then uploading to sites like youtube, they would release their performances officially on DVD (ie T.Rex on TV) Aint these "Stars" made enough out of their fans? If they hadn't have blown their fortunes on big 25 bedroomed mansions with swimming pools etc etc, fast cars, servants, got bladdered on booze & Champagne and powdered their noses or shot their arms then they would still be richer than you I and everybody else on this board put together. |
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Post by Joe Haynes on Sept 18, 2007 20:57:07 GMT
yes i no what a bootleg is and i never disagreed that something recorded of TV was not a bootleg. I was just saying that most Companies were not threatened By Youtube because of the low quality of the media. and if you believe that Record companies and associated parties are fine with letting people tape shows then they wouldnt have such a high policy on copywrite. A lot of Websites get shut down because Record companies do not like people sharing material of there artists. Thats why i believe they only agreed to let there artists reappear in the program if captions were made to down grade the material, Which it does. I wish bands would release all there Tv Appearences and they can go off and be richer than all of us... But at least us lot will be happy  |
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Post by lpmoderator on Sept 19, 2007 12:53:14 GMT
Im sure they did listen but they would of had to put captions over the top because if they ddidnt the shows would get heavily bootlegged which would make the artist pissed off more with the BBC Well, most current shows aren't plastered with captions mid-song in the same way (e.g. Jools Holland) so why aren't the BBC worried that people are recording these too!?? It was to do with the "format" of the show entirely (a crap format admittedly) that those captions were plastered on there. They thought it was useful / giving added interest by providing profiles of the groups featured. It wasn't. It was just annoying. |
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Post by Peter Elliott on Sept 19, 2007 15:16:33 GMT
They thought it was useful / giving added interest by providing profiles of the groups featured. It wasn't. It was just annoying. It was... there were endless "Happy Birthday" captions. I vividly recall The Hollies "Sorry Suzanne" being repeated for the nth time and the captions simply heralded the fact it was bassist Bernie Calverts' birthday that week. I never knew Bernie was such a well loved and legendary bassist who had long been out the band having left in 1981. That was real relevant... I should had had a street party to celebrate that...  By and large I felt the captions were patronising and insulting since they stated the blindingly obvious and of course ruined whatever was going on onscreen. Then there was Steve Wright blabbing inane rubbish over the intros and outros and they REALLY got on my nerves. Can't stand the man anyway and he is a hypocrite. He used to write a column in one of the tabloids in the early 80s and I vividly recall him spending an entire article ripping Depeche Mode to pieces slagging them off calling them "miserable" and "pretentious" so to hear him TOTP2 introducing Depeche Mode clips and gushing what a "great band" they were really stuck in the throat. TOTP2 could had been a wonderful show but the producers were ignorant to the regular criticisms and did nothing to improve the formula. These irregular specials are nothing more than marketing opportunities... oh yes... lets have a Police special neatly to co-incide with their UK reunion gigs, as if Sting and the Police didn't need the exposure. I do want to make a special mention of Gary who posts here because he campaigned tirelessly for years against the predictability TOTP2 became. Like he, I knew this could had been a great show and to see such an opportunity go to waste was frustrating. |
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Post by ron on Oct 22, 2007 17:37:00 GMT
TOTP2 Halloween Special :
Saturday 27 October 2007 10:50pm BBC2
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Post by garyjordanbrum on Oct 22, 2007 21:13:32 GMT
Same old re-cycled clips same tired Wrighty same caption bollox.
Will it be a trick or a treat. NO IT'S A TRICK Ghostbusters, Thriller,Fire,Monster Mash,Monster etc etc.
Predictable claptrap the lot of it.
Total waste of licence money again.
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Post by ron on Nov 4, 2007 10:50:29 GMT
The Halloween Special had a few surprises really, including songs like 'Camouflage'.
I wonder if tonights TOTP2 show will have a few too :
TOTP2 Country Jukebox
Sunday 4 November 2007 22:45pm BBC2
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