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Post by Adam James Smith on Apr 27, 2005 18:24:09 GMT
thanks, do you happen to know what the first british tv promo film was and who it was? Not sure, as it depends on the exact deifntion of promo you use. A lot of basic promo films not much different from TV appearances were made by bands over the years, but it doesn't seem to have been until circa 1966 that the modern type of promo film telling a story started becoming commonplace. I do recall seeing some kind of promo for Lonnie Donegan's "My Old Man's a Dustman" (1960) once, featuring Lonnie and his band on location with a dustcart, so there way be earlier exampls of this kind of film.
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Post by William on Apr 29, 2005 16:13:28 GMT
yes I think I've seen that one the band speeded up. Your right about the definition of a promo, if its just the band performing then that would go back to the earliest days of sound film. Tricky defining them though as even many "videos" today are realy just promon films
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Jun 19, 2005 21:26:28 GMT
isn't there a totp promo of happy jack with them as safe crackers or am I getting mixed up. Yes there is: you cna see it in the "Kids are alright" film. Told a short excerpt of 5.15 (wrong sound) appears also on 'Kids are alright', haven't checked to verify. the TOTP promo is rumoured to be in Pete Townsends collection which is why it survives. Its thus the earliest known surviving TOTP film with sound (Cliff Richard: 'Visions' 1966 is the earliest officially, but the sound is missing). Theres in addition to 'I can see for miles' (studio appearance) supposed to be a clip; in the retro montage on 'Pop goes the 60s'; of 'My generation'. Whether this is an old TOTP clip source I don't know. I thought the BBC banned it. I recall the promo for 'Substitute' (Roger Daltrey in two tone shirt) featured in a 1970s schools programme on society. I erroneously recalled this as a promo for 'My generation', but realised what it really was when it was used on BBCs 'Rock and Roll years'. I suppose the Whos material at the BBC has more to do with the general patchiness of pop holdings over the years than it being the Who. Thus because all the 1968 'Crackerjack' editions are missing, Whos 1968 appearance on it, which could have been 'Magic bus' is missing. As has probably been mentioned 'The Seeker' on TOTP 1970, and 'Won't get fooled again' on TOTP have been either kept or found for some years now. '5.15' has only surfaced following mention on this forum (we must be doing some good then)!
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Post by Adam James Smith on Jun 19, 2005 22:14:22 GMT
did the Who make any TV appearances/promos for the single "Dogs"?
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Post by William Martin on Jun 20, 2005 16:38:32 GMT
Yes we are doing some good and it gives the rest of us the will to continue, good research and information is the key to successful recoveries and there are plenty of people on this board with the right skills.
by the way, were the bbc still using the 45rpm recordings for the songs to be mimed from? if so the Cliff Richard film could have its sound restored.
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Post by Laurence Piper on Jun 20, 2005 19:25:40 GMT
Yes, it could. But as there is no lip-synching in the film (it's a montage of images) then it would be difficult to see exactly how the music cut to the specific shots. You'd get an approximate combining though.
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Post by gary freeman on Jun 21, 2005 21:20:54 GMT
didn't know the who's my generation rsg performance survived. is this a recent find, it wasn't featured on the kids are alright DVD last year. RSG, what a mystery you are ! does Mr Clarke have you all???
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Post by John Stewart Miller on Jun 26, 2005 23:36:04 GMT
What about the 'My Gen' clip featured on 'Pop goes the 60s'? Does anyone have any ideas. I suspect its 'All my loving' again (the film). Always important to draw attention to these listings in case researchers are looking for new documentary clips.
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