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Post by colin fenwick on Jan 6, 2004 13:17:01 GMT
Can anyone tell me when the still-extant episodes of 'Out of the Unknown' are ever going to see the light of day on DVD? Its a series I've heard so much about over the past few years and I'm finding it very infuriating waiting for an official release date. Incidently, can anyone shed some light on the missing episode 'The Chopper' at all - specifically, whether or not it exists as a complete audio track or if any clips exist for it at all ( actually, this same query goes for 'Wine of India' also - that Nigel Kneale, he sure knew how to write em! )  |
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Post by Zodiac on Jan 9, 2004 11:58:10 GMT
I think THE CHOPPER is one which is supposedly still abroad and not yet been recovered by the BBC. An excellant episode though and one which i would love to see again. I have all the remaining episodes on VT myself but would like to see a DVD release, once they were all cleaned up and remastered.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 14, 2004 6:29:34 GMT
32 episodes from Seasons 1,2 and 3 of Out of the Unknown screened in New Zealand, then the prints were sent to various overseas stations such as Finland in October 1968 and February 1970, Hungary in February 1969, Sweden (March 1970), Sierra Leone (December 1971) and Yugoslavia in June 1973.
However the following eight episodes have no "fate" recorded against them in the TVNZ archive files, so it is (remotely!) possible these might still exist somewhere in New Zealand...
Something In the Cellar, Random Quest, Little Black Bag, 1+1=1.5, The Fosters, Yellow Pill, Target Generation, Get off my Cloud.
Jon Preddle
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Post by C Perry on Jan 14, 2004 8:48:12 GMT
Hi Jon
I found the Get Off My Cloud can at the UGC archive at Pinewood in 1990, but it had an Armchair Theatre inside instead. So somewhere there is an Armchair Theatre with a BBC can label! The label was TVNZ.
Chris
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Post by William Martin on Jan 14, 2004 16:30:54 GMT
what was the Armchair theatre episode?
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Post by C Perry on Jan 15, 2004 8:53:44 GMT
Poor Cherry I think.
C
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Post by William Martin on Jan 16, 2004 11:29:50 GMT
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Post by John R on Jan 16, 2004 20:57:56 GMT
I find it amazing some of those countries were interested in buying things like OOTU and Dr Who - but as soon as everyone knows they don't have any episodes left, no one ever takes any more interest usually. Am I alone in wondering how popular these shows were abroad, whether they were ever dubbed rather than subbed, what kind of critical reception they got, etc, etc?
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jan 18, 2004 0:58:19 GMT
C Perry
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Re: out of the unknown
« Reply #3 on: Jan 14th, 2004, 03:48am »
I found the Get Off My Cloud can at the UGC archive at Pinewood in 1990, but it had an Armchair Theatre inside instead. So somewhere there is an Armchair Theatre with a BBC can label! The label was TVNZ.
Hi Chris - sorry I missed you when I was in the UK last year! Interesting to hear about the film can, though I'm sure the label would have been NZBC, as TVNZ didn't exist until 1976... (I'd love to see a copy of the can, we keep finding old BBC/NBNZ cans with labels (sadly empty)...
Jon
Jon
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Post by neil lambess on Feb 9, 2004 13:06:24 GMT
target generation screen on TVNZ around 1979 as a "" fill in" for a canceled sports event....
its possible it and get off my cloud were returned in TVNZ cans
the plot thickens
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Post by John R on Feb 10, 2004 3:02:14 GMT
Going a bit off-topic, but after large scale junkings had ended (1978ish?), how often were foreign copies of 'lost' UK shows destroyed (or almost destroyed) after it was known that the UK copy was missing? I'm thinking of the Ain't Half Hot Mum episodes shown in NZ in the 80s, and the Dad's Army episodes that David Croft spotted on TV whilst on holiday in Australia, as well as the OOTU that's been mentioned.
Although Mr Croft managed to make sure the Dad's Army episodes were saved in broadcast-quality, what would have happened if he'd not seen them? Since they were locally-made 1" dubs IIRC, presumably the tapes themselves were owned by the Australian broadcaster (who could do whatever they wanted with them), and the originally supplied BBC quads had previously either been returned to the BBC and wiped, or wiped locally?
Sorry that's a bit garbled, but I hope it makes sense to everyone! The other thing that puzzles me is why master-copies were sent abroad, like the two episodes of OOTU series four. Was it normal for masters to be used as sales copies, perhaps when rights were about to expire (a sort-of "use this tape, then junk it" approach)? From what I can tell, another fourth season OOTU - Welcome Home - had the best copy sent to Brunei in Xmas '76, whilst the BBC retained a 2" copy dubbed from it, which is the copy that survives today...
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Post by John Miller on Nov 16, 2004 21:08:23 GMT
I always found the BBC records entries for 'Shattered eye' & 'The chopper' suspect. They say they were sent to a TV station in Dubai in 1976, but at that time BBC were using B/W telerecordings for countries in that area as far as I can tell. I thought it more likely that someone amongst the staff changed the records & removed them as they're particularly strong ones. The reason they might have concern is as by that time more or less all the best entries for that series' masters had been recycled. There was no saying they might go the same way. If you read the holdings list for the '71 run & recall the plays, it's almost as if someone ticked off all the good ones & the wiper released the ticked ones thinking they were the ones intended to be wiped. Failing this, there is still reason to suppose there are T/Rs or oddments from series 4 as it was probably marketed on B/W film, and a whole run from 'Doomwatch' turned up in this form from overseas in the 80s.
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