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Post by johnstewart on Jun 2, 2007 19:21:04 GMT
Has anyone heard of the new process someone mentioned to me; whereby colour information might be reinstated to black and white versions of programmes?
I'm curious to know what possibilities this may open for restoration on the one hand of 'Year of the Sex Olympics' and 'Planet of the Daleks - episode 3'. On the other the series 'Oh in Colour' (1970); currently only available in black and white; and the early BBC colour TV test transmissions, c. 1959?
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Post by Dan S on Jun 2, 2007 22:09:46 GMT
Is this even possible? It sounds like a fanciful dream to me.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jun 2, 2007 23:54:16 GMT
Is this even possible? It sounds like a fanciful dream to me. James Insell at the BBC (who also developed the new Reverse Standards Conversion process) has been looking at the possibility of extracting the chroma subcarrier in b/w telerecordings and decoding the information to gain a template of the original colour information. Early tests done with b/w stills have proved that it is possible, providing the subcarrier is still there (it was switched off in many telerecordings). However, for the process to progress, time and funding would need to be provided to see if there could be any practical value to the theory. Richard |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2007 10:21:18 GMT
Has anyone heard of the new process someone mentioned to me; whereby colour information might be reinstated to black and white versions of programmes? I'm curious to know what possibilities this may open for restoration on the one hand of 'Year of the Sex Olympics' and 'Planet of the Daleks - episode 3'. On the other the series 'Oh in Colour' (1970); currently only available in black and white; and the early BBC colour TV test transmissions, c. 1959? This has been discussed on and off for a long time now and i've always been very excited by the possibility myself! A "still" frame from one of James' experiments with the process was posted on the Doctor Who forum some time ago (which I saved and have here) from a 1970 b/w t/r Top Of The Pops, proving it is more than a fanciful dream. It certainly opens the door for much stuff to be restored to colour that is (on paper anyway) only retained in b/w (e.g. several early '70s TOTP, Sex Olympics, many sitcoms and dramas, Dr.Who: Mind Of Evil etc. etc.) I just hope the potential of the process is realised and gets developed / perfected, just as Vidfire was; with that process added afterwards, a programme could look very similar to the way it did originally. Any movement James? |
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Post by William Martin on Jun 5, 2007 15:31:51 GMT
is this totp picture still on line?
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Jun 5, 2007 21:19:33 GMT
Has anyone heard of the new process someone mentioned to me; whereby colour information might be reinstated to black and white versions of programmes? I'm curious to know what possibilities this may open for restoration on the one hand of 'Year of the Sex Olympics' and 'Planet of the Daleks - episode 3'. On the other the series 'Oh in Colour' (1970); currently only available in black and white; and the early BBC colour TV test transmissions, c. 1959? This has been discussed on and off for a long time now and i've always been very excited by the possibility myself! A "still" frame from one of James' experiments with the process was posted on the Doctor Who forum some time ago (which I saved and have here) from a 1970 b/w t/r Top Of The Pops, proving it is more than a fanciful dream. It certainly opens the door for much stuff to be restored to colour that is (on paper anyway) only retained in b/w (e.g. several early '70s TOTP, Sex Olympics, many sitcoms and dramas, Dr.Who: Mind Of Evil etc. etc.) I just hope the potential of the process is realised and gets developed / perfected, just as Vidfire was; with that process added afterwards, a programme could look very similar to the way it did originally. Any movement James? If the finances were available, there is a process that is already available to do the job of colour restoration, i.e. colourization. Many pogrammes such as 'The Year Of The Sex Olympics' have colour stills and these stills would be the guides as to the true colours used in the production. I believe the colourization process has improved, and since the production was originally in colour, the colourization would be even better (lighting for colour rather than monochrome). Yours, |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2007 10:37:21 GMT
is this totp picture still on line? I doubt it as posts fall off the end on DW Forum eventually. This method of retrieving colour from a b/w print is a different process to re-colourising stories from scratch though though; the colour is there already and, as I understand it, it's just a case of finding a way to de-code it. |
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Post by Paul Grayson on Jun 6, 2007 11:23:21 GMT
One episode of The Goodies has been restored to colour by this method and released on DVD.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Jun 6, 2007 12:32:21 GMT
No it wasn't - that was a low band VT recording which had its colour signal boosted, not a film recording.
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Post by Dan S on Jun 6, 2007 15:22:04 GMT
A "still" frame from one of James' experiments with the process was posted on the Doctor Who forum some time ago (which I saved and have here) from a 1970 b/w t/r Top Of The Pops, proving it is more than a fanciful dream. I'd love to see it, could you upload it? (Use a free image host such as www.imageshack.us , you just upload it and it gives you the link). |
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