OCTOBER/NOVEMBER 2023 DISCOVERIES!
Dec 9, 2023 0:21:06 GMT
Paul Rumbol, Peter Prentice, and 3 more like this
Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Dec 9, 2023 0:21:06 GMT
Here we are. Another list of the stuff I've found on youtube and in Archives in the last two months with the usual pithy comments. A few things weren't spotted by me and are hopefully duly noted!
Noting that there are LOADS of Dusty Springfield audios around from wiped shows, I thought it wouldn't be too difficult to locate another that I would have somehow missed over the years and I think I just have.
So this is Ms Springfield performing on 'It's Lulu, Not to Mention Dudley Moore', 29/11/1972 and the song being performed is Scarborough Fair. Easiest 60 seconds of my life that.
Cue the tape:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUT3M0y3y8
This is actually rather good.
A mostly complete audio of a Top of the Pops from 06/05/1964.
Yes, yes, it was uploaded three years back but only 33 people have heard it in that time!!!!!
Maybe not as interesting as the ones after the 'miming ban', but still an interesting historical document nonetheless. As far as I know none of we hardcore TOTP hardcore collectors have this and it's not in general circulation:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KtW_CZEySI
(plus we now know the Orby film was made in Stratford Upon Avon (almost certainly shot on the 4th or 5th May, plus we can ascertain the correct running order of songs.)
This particular series has given me nothing but trouble over the years; let me explain.
Murun Buchstansangur was a wonderfully leftfield cartoon, shown on Channel 4 between 1982 and 1987. They made 52 episodes, and the whereabouts of 16 of these are known about. The series was also exported to a few countries, including Norway.
The problem has been trying to ascertain whether all or even some of the episodes are with any of the creatives involved (I have not managed to get a hold of Timothy Forder, and moreover Bevanfield are no longer in existence) so I'm a rock stuck in a hard place, to busticate a phrase.
Anyswitchswaybutsluice, there are 16 episodes on youtube (an annoying number, as it's the same as what's known about) - but these are not all of the extant 16 episodes, some are and some aren't. So rather than spend even more hours than I already have on this project over the past 10 years, I'm just going to post the episodes that are on youtube so at least you can enjoy them. I'm well aware episodes are being traded by collectors, so the more keen fans of the show may have owned some or all of these.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22MURUN+BUCHSTANSANGUR%22%22episode%22&sp=EgIQAQ%253D%253D
News of minor interest yet again.
A 16mm Southern TV report - possibly from Day by Day or a Southern News - has turned up at the Imperial War Museum; I say 'turned up' as it wasn't there last time I checked....
The report is: 'Edited elements of a television report on the satellite telescope earth station (Radome) at the Signals Research and Development Establishment (SRDE), Christchurch, Dorset. Includes footage of the Radome itself soon after the initial installation as well as an interview with RSRE Director Cedric Stevens.'
It's down on their database as 'Satellite Station' and is on 16mm.
When you have a programme that has 'some' elements remaining - but that includes a filmed report only as a holding negative, and then only a portion of the remaining edition as well, and that being picture only, then I think any sensible person would label that a basically missing episode. (And despite not being even remotely sensible, I think that too.)
So, after taking my usual customary crane around youtube, I found this wee gem as part of the NYJO video collection. It's basically a jam session (any excuse for Mr Read to play guitar, eh?) and features a couple of well-known names and some lessor known ones who are excellent musicians.
The show? Oh, yes, Saturday Superstore and the date being 19th March 1983.
I suppose you'd like to see the clip? ANYONE?
Well here it is anyway, and just remember you all, Cheggers can't be Boozers*.
ROLL TAPE!:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjudn_LW34
*(c)
XTC. Legends, right?
This is Swindon's finest performing my favourite track of theirs 'Senses Working Overtime' on Granada TV's 'Late Night from Two' (02/02/1982).
Now I'm not 100% sure if it's wiped. I've never seen it before and I can't find a listing, so it's 50/50 on that.
One other thing to note - the track is actually a re-recorded version (spot the differences in Verse 2 with the vocal), although it's quite obviously mimed.
Anyway, revel in this, it's fab:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXXYbHqdeBQ
Ok, this may be a bit pointless to most of you, but here's literally a 'goodbye' from a wiped Jackanory (10/02/1975) which had Ed Bishop reading.
There's continuity and a junction.
First time I've located even a smidgy of Jackanory ever.... and it's almost nothing!!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=39a7b0e8cHg
The Video Sounds episode from 1982 (filmed in 1981) of Siouxsie and the Banshees at Nottingham.
Yes, it's been doing the rounds of collectors since.... 1982..... that said, the master tape's whereabouts aren't known despite there being a shedload of VHS copies being shared between people with thick mascara.
So, erm.... yeah. It's here and in slightly better nick than my copy:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ2lbs4BdDw
a very small discovery to inform you about....
It appears that Fremantle have at least part of one thought-to-be-lost edition of The World Around Us - this being the last edition of Season 44, 'Open Session', from 23/03/1976.
How do I know this? Well, six years ago they uploaded a couple of wee mute clips from the edition (which noone seems to have spotted came from a wiped show, not just me).
The clips are mute and there is the possibility that they just retained these as stock footage.
To be completist, here they are:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSAyBQAyoU AND www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdpq7uPOYqo
In a way, there's nothing much to see here, but there's a very good point I want to make.
With a lot of Magpie editions, they are wiped, gone, junked.
But, in addition to the programmes that do exist (including the two I got back to Kaleidoscope) there are a load of filmed reports made on location that Fremantle have.
Exhibit A, me lud.... Jenny Hanley goes to Malta.... first shown on Magpie 25/07/1975. The edition is lost, but a quarter of it exists thus:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NZTsmQv2w
Something I appear to have missed....
Huntley's Archive appear to have a lengthy filmed insert from an otherwise missing believed wiped edition of Wednesday Magazine, 20/06/1962.
www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1030752&itemw=4&itemf=0001&itemstep=1&itemx=102&fbclid=IwAR1NCnuUFK5CJUzDvtxzjLL3epgsspJ-Kdos2rrRQkN5hQuYymA8Ydgl_Zo
You may have seen one or both of these uploads before but some new information for you.
There's a debate in certain circles as how Central TV started and I've solved it. Mike Prince is often credited with opening Central, but he didn't. What he DID do was make a Promotional Programme for Central which was not shown on the ITV network as such, but is fortunately retained; I feel this would have been better:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r6M4xiuXzE
The actual first transmission was this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwovripelvQ
Something just quickly to mention, mainly old info with a tiny bit of new knowledge.
Huntley Archives have an unnamed episode of H.M.S Paradise.
Now, I reported this some years back, so a few of you might remember that:- www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1036758...
So why am I repeating myself? We don't even know which episode it is? Two exist (one being a discovery from just a few years back with a collector in Hertfordshire, thanks to him and, erm, some chain-smoking scruffbag....🤣)
Well, turns out Huntley ALSO have a title sequence. This is fairly important as both extant episodes are missing either the opening or closing bits!
www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1008063...
One of my favourite sorts of discoveries is finding something the first bit of TV from an otherwise completely wiped set of programmes and....
Presenting Lena Martell was a BBC Scotland🏴 series that ran from 1971 through to 1973.
And it's all gone - or rather it was, but Irish comic Mike Newman kept a tape of the first show (11/09/1971) - which he appeared on - and I am delighted that he uploaded it to youtube:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb-ZPgcjGcg
Kudos to my friend at VHS Rewinds. More wiped stuff and although this won't be top of anyone's wishlist, I'm pleased with all of them....
This is Cliff being interviewed on ATV Today, 26/11/1981.
And no, you won't have seen this on youtube until the now as I'm the first viewer!!!! (well, since 1981 anyway....) www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg5GnnTJrrM
Here's another find from this evening:-
This is the final Wolf It! edition from Series 1, 17/02/1994:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiYvvv19DY
This is a wee bit for the completist because it WAS wiped, but Kaleidoscope have had a copy for a few years.
This is an episode of Make the Music Speak, 18/06/1977, BBC Scotland. Having spotted that Lena Martell yesterday this came up on my 'suggested' on youtube.
Lena's guests on this are Brotherhood of Man supplying the additional music and the wonderful Les Dawson supplying the wit.
This has been on youtube many a year now, but it's something I seem to have missed. The additional footage on this and Janey Kirk's other uploads are of shows that exist in full.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aLt5dxrm8
How I love spotting missing programmes before breakfast....
Group member Aidan Lunn has his own youtube Channel sticky tape'n'rust and as of this morning he uploaded another of those Closedown programmes, this one being a Sit Up and Listen from 30/11/1982. (Starts around 6.10)
Your reader is the Rev. Peter Lewis (not to be confused with the velvet-voiced IVC man, who as far I know never took holy orders). www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k9HAGu86v0
I'll probably be finding my usual "minority interest"* shows until the wee hours, so here's another bit of wiped for youse.
This is the Max Headroom Show from 03/02/1987 and the guest is Rutger Hauer.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsVJJuMiDHQ
(*like I care.)
A missing radio broadcast IS off-topic. How I revel in my sins, eh?
Look, those wonderful people at Radio Circle probably know about this, but I didn't and some of you won't have, so....
This is a radio Thirty Minute Theatre from 25/11/1958, 'the New Catacomb', listed as wiped on tvbrain:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4qcVj4GX4
I'm going to pretend I was saving this, rather than it was something I missed, right?
As uploaded only a few short days ago as uploaded by Mark Grout, here's the audio to a missing Pop Quest from 14/11/1975 - the special guests are Sparks and the edition is the semi-final between Thames and HTV:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE-Nk6YD_Sw
Glaringly off-topic.
(At this point I wish to say the moderators of this Forum are amazing wonderful people who will forgive me once again, PLEASE!)
I get bored sometimes and look for ""lost films"".
So, 'Stark Mad' was a 1929 film:- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_Mad
I quote: 'The film was released in both a sound version and a silent version for theaters not converted to sound. Both sound and silent versions are lost. The soundtrack, which was recorded separately on Vitaphone disks, may survive in private hands.'
Erm, do you mean that the Vitaphone discs for the film and the trailer survive at UCLA.... BECAUSE THEY DO:-
www.worldcat.org/title/423639638
www.worldcat.org/title/423639965
Hiding in plain sight. Blah.
I'd like to personally thank a chap called Darren Lee for going beyond the norm to identify some existing bits of otherwise lots editions of Zokko. The vast majority of information below was pinched from his research:-
This is a compilation from that programme which is still extant in the vaults but there are bits from wiped editions:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZkRSDOXTE
The bit from 03/01/1970 contains 'Skayn and the Moon People' episode 5, identifiable to that date:
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/84695d59a30a4158bec0d0e3d0051e56
The extract from 'Fantasia' is presumably from 13/12/1969,
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/9665ff221d06436ea787c27df87fba2c
The Inaros Sisters act is presumably from 06/12/1969,
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/eec20114934a45fb9a3ab701832d2102
(and their single credit on imdb for 3/1/1970 is therefore wrong).
'Side-splitting funsters' Davies and Grey appeared twice, this appearance presumably being the 2nd series one from 31/01/1970, genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/fde413f2ed764c019bb3fbde40a053ab
So just to recap again - this compilation exists and those bits mentioned come from otherwise wiped editions.
More Cliff. (Not the very wonderful Cliff Chapman, but Mr Richard.)
I thought I would be rather annoying (as usual) and see if I could find any lost Cliff Richard over the course of an hour. It took me 39 minutes, but having consulted a couple of databases I realized that there was almost nothing existing from his 1972 'It's Cliff Richard' series aside from that ZDF-held insert of TNS that I told you all about yonks ago.
So, here's a wee bit of audio of Cliffypoos singing 'Storm in a Teacup' with the Flirtations on his aforementioned series, the episode being 18/03/1972.
Not even the Dutch Cliff Richard fan club have this, and they're more devoted than nuns.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JPEoz2do0M
Ok. I'm quite poorly, having a perfect storm of illnesses right now, so not doing much, apologies.
This isn't even wiped. It was, though and it's not archived in the UK.
One thing I spotted in the Library of Congress some years back was the Associated-Rediffusion schools programme on the Scottish Play.
'The Play Itself' (19/03/1958) is presented here - in truncated form of only a few wee minutes - but this has never surfaced online before and A/R Schools programmes are as rare as owt. Like I said, it WAS wiped.
Thanks to VHS Rewinds for this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRdkE9UieSs
Also.... possibly the most mind-numbing bit of information about found footage you'll ever get....
The clip of Anita Harris singing 'Tuppenny Bus Ride' from an otherwise wiped edition of the completely wiped LWT childrens' series Stewpot (found on the end of a 2-inch spool, I'm told) has been dated to 22/08/1970.
The clip was shown a few years ago at a Kaleidoscope event.
Greetings from the Planet Raymi where its' sole occupant is functioning a wee bit on autopilot. That disclaimer made, I'm still trying to look for stuff but I have all the energy of a squashed haggis.
Not wanting to let the side down, here's another discovery although this was a mere ten minutes of laboured effort.
It's more audio and it's more Cliff Richard, in surprisingly good quality.
The track here is a cover of Tim Hardin's 'Reason to Believe', which had less than a year prior to this recording was more famously performed by Rod Stewart and was the original A-side to the Maggie May single. The recording comes from the 'It's Cliff Richard' show as shown by the BBC on 01/01/1972. Even the cliffrichardsongs database don't know about this*.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnppsuszTx4
(* actually they do now. I emailed them.)
This is kind-of-wiped.
It was wiped. Kaleidoscope have a copy now, from a different recording, so there are two copies in existence, whereas ten years ago, there weren't any....
Anywayanyhowanywhere, this is an edition of Points of View, and it's from 13/03/1981 and it's been uploaded by the JMX TV Archive in the last 20 minutes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8VtzT1eZnc
An edition of TVS' local round-up Coast to Coast from 17/06/1988 for you, again as uploaded by the JMX TV Archive channel at about midnight just the now.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsk5MkEwILw
This has never been missing and barely counts as a British programme. That said, it was part-financed and partly co-ordinated by Rediffusion who received an on-screen credit, and I can't locate a copy in any UK Archive. (*last time I didn't see it, but today the BFI's website appears to be down, so, blaaaaaaaaaah).
Yes, it's one of those Intertels again; this one being called 'Room Down Under', which was a documentary about immigration in Australia, or emigration to.... I suppose, as a matter of perspective.
While I haven't actually located the exact UK transmission date yet, it was shown on 15/06/1964 in the US and much of the work was done by Westinghouse.
16mm copies exist at the Library of Congress and Indiana University Libraries in the US of A and the NFSA in Australia.
www.collection.nfsa.gov.au/title/309650
americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-512-gx44q7rn6s
Another part of a previously wiped TOTP from the VHS Rewinds channel, 19/02/1976:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHooghmRYI
An incomplete episode of the Big Breakfast here - it's the Easter Holidays and that will explain the retooled 'Bigger Breakfast' title. The tx date is Thursday 9th April 1998 and this upload (which is only 9 days old) features the presenting talents of Melanie Sykes and Bill and Ben. Here they masquerade as Ant and Dec, still wearing flowerpot-type thingies on their heads and making comments in some spurious form that remains a mystery to most. Later of course, they married and gave birth to Justin Bieber.
Get ready to rumble-de-thumps.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_GTIoArxg
If this exists, it's going to be a domestic recording only and Kaleidoscope are going to be the ones who have it, AND, if that's the case, it came from one of my discoveries.
Living and Growing was one of Grampian TV's successes; it was the 'birds and the bees' series that the originally made in 1968, remade in 1975. re-edited and possibly made more of in 1976 and then remade again in the 1980s.
The whole thing is very confusing and before I'd located some episodes in the National Library of Scotland I'd actually found several in the National Arts Education Archive. Those tapes went back to Kaleidoscope and those were off-air from more than one domestic VT format and they all dated from the 1970s and 1980s.
This appears to come from a completely different recording and the uploader says it's from a 1976 rebroadcast, which seems quite possible. This was actually colour episode 1, Social Development, originally broadcast 13/01/1975.
So just to recap, if this does exist it came off one of the old NAEA tapes, but I've not had it confirmed.
Some brief audio extracts from what I think is a wiped edition of Magpie.
This is the edition where the results of the Magpie Carol Writing Competition were revealed. While I am not sure, I believe it's from 21/12/1979 - this would be the final edition of the year before their Review of the Year (which exists and has been previously covered in a post).
The uploader is the chap who won the boys' section of the competition.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROIObPHEJPY
Well, the minority-interest wiped programme here is at the end of the tape and it's an edition of TVS 'Company', their closedown offering.
This is actually the oldest one I've located on youtube, but to be truthful, I don't actually look that hard for them....
Anyway, it's from 02/01/1983 and it starts around 34.40 in.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2rL_yjIkoQ
It WAS wiped. (I mean, it still is, but there is a copy with Kaleidoscope from a different source). Plus this is only half an episode. But do you care? Do I care? (answers on a postcard to Mr S. Baldwin, Braverman Towers, FannyandJohnnieCradock Loaning, Twannock, Frattonshire. The winner will receive nothing. Not even a lukewarm puddle.)
This is the second half of an episode of Movie Memories, Anglia TV, from 04/07/1985 and the subject is Joan Sims. A lot of editions did get erased but many have been recovered and I believe there's only 5 yet to be found in some form or other.
Thanks to VHS Rewinds for this upload today.
PS:- I am very very aware of the Charles Hawtrey edition. It stalks me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlP9S81exKg
I socially aware up this morning feeling like death's sicker cousin and I thought the best thing I could do was to try and locate something - anything - before midday.
Well, I have.
Due to database updates it transpires there is now more information about About Britain episodes on tvbrain and the following the editions of the series - 24/06/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Mumbles to Laugarne'; 01/07/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Caldey Island to the Smalls' and 08/07/1977 'The Shores of Wales: St. Brides Bay to Fishguard' all exist on 16mm at the NLW. All are currently listed as missing on tvbrain.
Deffrais bore ma yn teimlo fel cefnder angau mwy sâl ac roeddwn i'n meddwl mai'r peth gorau y gallwn i ei wneud oedd ceisio dod o hyd i rywbeth - unrhyw beth - cyn hanner dydd.
Wel, mae gen i.
Oherwydd diweddariadau cronfa ddata mae'n digwydd mae mwy o wybodaeth bellach am benodau About Britain ar tvbrain a'r rhifynnau canlynol o'r gyfres - 24/06/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Mumbles to Laugarne'; 01/07/1977 'O Lannau Cymru: Ynys Bŷr i'r Smalls' a 08/07/1977 'Glannau Cymru: Bae Sain Ffraid i Abergwaun' i gyd yn bodoli ar 16mm yn LlGC. Mae pob un wedi'i restru fel rhai coll ar tvbrain. (google translate)
discover.library.wales/discovery/search?query=any,contains,shores%20of%20wales&tab=NSSAW_ITV&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&facet=searchcreationdate,include,1970%7C,%7C1980&lang=en&offset=0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyC_zv3W7HM
It wouldn't be a month without finding this godless heathen locating a Songs of Praise of some sort, now would it?
So, in time-honoured tradition, I'd like to tell you that there's a SOUND DISC of a wiped SoP, that edition being "Songs of Praise from Gilgal Baptist Church, Porthcawl.", from 05/11/1972. This is of course located in the National Library of Wales. Had on.... a record release? Ooooooh.... And after checking the serial number against releases by the label, the date fits!
discover.library.wales/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma99366860902419&context=L&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=NSSAW_ITV&query=any,contains,songs%20praise&sortby=date_a&offset=0
More minority viewing here and this is a short epilogue programme made by those fine people at Southern TV.
Entitled 'Rome Comes to Canterbury', it's more of a discussion than your usual pre-Closedown readings on some of the other regional ITV channels. The small programme is debating whether the 1982 Papal visit to the UK is going to be a good thing. The Southampton-based Evengelical Vicar says it isn't. Well, the Pope DID go to Canterbury, but he didn't go to Southampton in 1982. We signed Peter Shilton instead.
As uploaded a few months back on his youtube channel sticky tape'n'rust by Group member Aidan Lunn. Starts at about 3.45.
This isn't quite wiped - and it isn't quite extant!
Let me explain....
Sunday Night was one of the BBC's arts shows, with a wandering brief. The vast majority of editions exist, as well, which is fab.
However, 'Mr. Sludge, the Medium' - the Jonathan Miller-produced episode from 06/02/1966 - is "a 16mm combined optical print so the final sound mix is incomplete."
An off-air of the soundtrack has also been uploaded to youtube today:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgbvxFCfd4
I've no idea if this audio is any better.
As uploaded by elviskline99.
There's been some stunning lost TV material found in the past two weeks.
There's also this.
It's a rare recording of Anglia TV's Birthday Club - which was even more just IVC with a mascot than Gus at Westward or Puffin at Channel. It comes from sometime in December 1983:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM5r8kFZ0Us
I do want an easy life, and having thought about it I decided I'd quickly investigate where the rumours about the partial audios of the 1970 series of 'It's Cliff Richard' did actually exist somewhere in the ether as rumoured or whether it was all pony. Well, they do, and they're also in the land of Lego, Bacon and Hans Christian Andersen, Denmark....
Ok. Partial audio recordings exist for all 13 shows, including the one that exists on Digibeta:- www.missumgs.dk/.../HomeCliff2/WeeklySerie2.html
.... and then more partial audio recordings from all of the completely wiped* 1971 Series:- www.missumgs.dk/.../HomeCliff2/WeeklySerie.html
.... and also even more partial audio excerpts from all of the completely wiped* 1972 Series:- www.missumgs.dk/.../It'sCliffRichardSeries.html
That's a lot of audio; partial recordings of 39 episodes (BBC Vidiprinter - THIRTY-NINE). 38 were wiped.
Please note, that by and large these are partial audio recordings because there is very little of any of the guest stars (Clodagh, TNS, Labi Siffre et al) on here as whomsoever was taping this really was just concerned with Cliff. That said, Hank and Una crop up a fair bit. Cliff's performances are mostly complete, but not always.
(*except, of course, the ZDF-held video clips of Clodagh in 1971 and TNS in 1972 performing their Eurovision songs which were retained for Preview programmes, oh and that lousy quality On the Beach thing I spotted years ago that looked 15th generation....)
Something I missed, possibly because I blinked.
3 long years ago, the ADC TV Collection uploaded a TVS 'Farming Brief' from 25/07/1984. It's been watched around once a day since.
Today, that viewer was me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HbcMGGkCWA
I wasn't even looking for this, sometimes lost programmes just turn up at your doorstep.
So here's an almost complete lost Merry Go Round, this is from its' rebroadcast on 08/11/1982, rather than its' first showing on 21/01/1980.
The correct title is 'Our Place: City' and it revolves around Newcastle Upon Tyne.
As uploaded by the Vintage Schools TV channel, kudos and thanks to them. 🙂
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5THahouLyKY
Another audio in existence from a missing programme - thank you if you're reading this - is But Seriously from 25/12/1970:-
""At the end of another Christmas Day three entertainers explain what the story of the Nativity means to them.
A BBC production for BBC 1. Transmission details are for BBC 1.
Usual duration: 10 minutes
Produced and directed by R. T. Brooks.
Joyce Grenfell (Interviewee), Cyril Fletcher (Interviewee), Ernie Wise (Interviewee).""
It's kind of an audio day today.
Jonathan Kelly was an Irish singer-songwriter who didn't achieve as much commercial success as he deserved, releasing two albums in the 1970s.
Another tragedy is that his two appearances on the Old Grey Whistle Test were both junked.
Fortunately, the audio for both is on youtube:-
11/04/1972:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXp7lLdG9k
AND
08/05/1973:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXLdIRmLWI
A little bit 'completist', again, this one, but it's only been uploaded today.
Here are some extracts of Tiswas from 1981 - and I think they're just from the 28/03/1981 edition, which was the last edition that Chris Tarrant presented.
The complete edition was wiped, but it has been recovered and is probably out there in collectorsville in full.
Nonetheless I'm posting about this one because it may interest some, and having not seen that edition, this 15 minutes or so may be in better quality, who knows?
Anyway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Vv_GwRoZo
Thanks to the VHS Rewinds channel again.
This is a repost of kind, but with good reason.
The very wonderful David King shared his recording of the VOCAL version of the Crossroads theme with the Crossroads Fan Club and it is now on youtube.
This comes from Episode 1500, and the vocalist is Carl Wayne who used to be in the Move.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XXHZrBFGtM
This is a pre-programme programme, if you like. 🤣
This wasn't even separately billed in the Radio Times.
Wee Philip Jenkinson introduces the first 'talkie' the Jazz Singer on BBC 2, the tx date being 02/10/1977. Phil's bit lasts almost 19 minutes.
While I have no firm indication this was wiped, I think the chance of it still existing are somewhat less than excellent if it wasnae even billed!
Anyway, with my usual thanks to VHS Rewinds, cue Phil:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSqXqqEZNvM
It's very hard to work out if this is a lost programme or not.
Having trawled through the complete list of Clapperboard editions within 20 minutes of waking up and my frazzled brain still feeling like a hardened sponge, my current best guess as to which partial episode this is currently stands as 'Early Hollywood Musicals' (03/02/1975), in which case this is a missing edition.
That said, it is just a guess and should anyone wish to go through the complete list and suggest or prove it's another edition, please do. I haven't even had a coffee yet.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4iFGSE7UH8
Just uploaded this morning, thanks again to VHS Rewinds.
Veering haphazardly off-topic again, geographically speaking, we are blown off-course to the U.S of A. and a rather spiffing tape that I somehow overlooked (probably because I was searching for British TV).
The Doors were still going in 1972, despite the sad exit of their shy, quiet abstemious front man Jim Morrison.
One of their final TV appearances was on the Dick Cavett Show (25/08/1972) and unlike the vast majority of DC editions being preserved - and latterly donated to the Library of Congress - this comes from a show that is now longer in existence.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7oz5hLztVo
Just a wee clip from a lost 1989 Coast to Coast.
I'm afraid I can't date it any more accurately than that. TVS, not STV, in case anyone's confused....
This is Felicity Buirski performing her song 'Dream On', with an intro by Pompey Fred.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUEv2sEUU14
This is the Revd. John Jolly, not the Revd. IM Jolly.
For those of you unable to relate to my above comment, Late Call was a late night STV programme, the Caledonian cousin to things such as Night Thoughts and Epilogue.
Broadcasts were treated in the same manner as their regional English counterparts and nary a wee episode exists intentionally in the archives. Kaleidoscope have two, I think.
So here's a third from November 1984. www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3g33IsA_Fk
This is one of those weeny little closedown-type finds, and I think the date is the dark hours of Friday 22/09/1984. That said, I'm not absolutely certain and it's very much a guess.
The late programme is LWT's 'Night Thoughts', and there's a few slides and a bit of continuity too.
As uploaded just today by VHS Rewinds:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_fVgVo3Rc
I am posting these 9-y-o uploads of the audio of a Marc Bolan interview with Sally James on Saturday Scene as I'd never actually worked out the date of them back in the day, and then promptly forgot about them.
Cue 20 minutes of research and this is from 04/10/1975.
Cue further self-embarrassment when I realize that Kaleidoscope's database says that date and I needn't have bothered with the research....
(It's noteworthy to.... erm.... note that Marc says about Supersonic broadcasting his performance of 'Dreamy Lady' tomorrow.... which was a Saturday, which at least gives me further proof that Saturday Scene was taped the day before....)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BjOlPhjPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlc99HU_aXg
Civilization has been waiting for the moment when I noticed a missing Night Thoughts, and lo, he moment has come.
This is from 13/01/1986 and it's been uploaded by one of our own, Group Member Aidan Lunn on his [Sticky tape 'n' rust](https://www.youtube.com/@stickytapenrust6869) youtube channel and it's here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNbhyREQiKw
There's also IVC and slides and all of that.
My son challenged me to find a wiped programme in 5 minutes.
Impossible, unless one takes an easy option....
Which I did, and for which I apologize.
So, here's a wiped Songs of Praise from Burton upon Trent from 07/05/1978. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRSOQCsl7yU
(look I'm trying to get back on form, right?)
Minority minority interest. Shout out to the farmers!
Yes, I've located that rare beast - a Tyne Tees Farming Outlook. As you may know quite a few of the regional ITV companies did Farming Programmes - it may even have been a majority of them. Nonetheless, Farming Outlook isn't one of the ones as well-archived as Farming Today (ATV) which exists in full on film!
This one is in the National Library of Scotland and it's from 1979:-
search.nls.uk/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=44NLS_MIA(filmRef)7113&context=L&vid=44NLS_VU1&lang=en_US&search_scope=SCOPE1&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=default_tab&query=any,contains,tyne%20tees&facet=rtype,include,media&offset=0
Dinah Sheridan pays tribute to the late Kenneth More shortly before a showing of the film 'Genevieve' dedicated to his memory.
The probable tx date is 15/07/1982. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxUH8sL3gyw
This isn't exactly missing.
In fact, it's not missing at all.
It's damaged.
Right, the BBC were a wee bit smitten the Osmonds back in the day - in 1974, for those who weren't there or can't remember - the Bros 'O' (and lest we forget Marie) had an Osmonds Week where there was at least a daily programme featuring the family, including one edition of TOTP (which only exists because of its' misfiling as 'Osmonds Special').
Enough of that, let's roll back to the beginning of the year, because it was on 16/01/1974 that the Beeb broadcast the docco 'On Tour with the Osmonds'.
The trouble is, the Digibeta is damaged, which apparently occurred during transfer. So you won't be seeing it anytime soon.... well apart from this youtube upload if you care to watch it.
Anyway, here's those smiling chaps from Ogden:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZ0yFShuvs
Most of an edition of Coast to Coast, TVS, 21/07/1988:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcloMFsIf8
Only uploaded just the now by the JMX TV ARCHIVE youtube channel.
Right, some sort-of-missing audio for you. (Meaning it WAS wiped, but a copy of the audio exists, in this case with Kaleidoscope. ).
This is the Till Death Do Us Part extract of Christmas Night with the Stars from 25/12/1971.
I haven't listened to it, so I've no idea if there are any offensive phrases used.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvthe8yZ84g
This comes from the elviskline99 channel which has previously uploaded a few wiped audios in recent memory.
All the lost bits of a lost show.
No fanfare. No comments. No thumbnail.
I would feel derelict in my duty not to report any finds.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAV62BRjCRU
edited this morning....
there's another....:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcsCGDXlFJE
and.... ANOTHER:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kRYNnRBKNU
Well I haven't found anything much for a while, because I haven't been looking.
In that frame of mind, I wasn't searching for anything now either, but as fortune would have it, youtube has one of those 'suggested' thingieMcjigs, and due to that here's a missing and previously un-uploaded edition of Southern TV's Houseparty from April 1981. It's only been on youtube half an hour or so, and it isn't one of the previously uploaded editions. So that's alright then.
(And, yes, I've seen the other uploaded Houseparty editions on youtube. And, yes, yes, I write in terrible English.... 'and' at the beginning of sentences, words that aren't in any dictionary, dots and brackets in random.... places. But I think most of you ken me as opposed to want to barbie me.)
As uploaded by TheBluechickens channel: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbVYgtFZL9s
Right, I'm going to disappear again in a cloud of iced Caramel Latte and a rather strong medicinal cheroot.
I almost expect an episode of Wolf It to be uploaded on a Sunday - and this is another one that is missing....
It's Season 2, Episode 5 from 19/10/1994.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHkicXToqwo
Thanks, again, to the ADC TV Collection youtube channel.
Here's another 'piece of wiped' (as some of my friends like to call these things....!?!?!), this is a partial upload of 5 Alive, the 'pilot' episode which I think dates from 23/08/1986 rather than the following Saturday as stated by the uploader (the wonderful JMX TV Archive youtube channel).
The reason I think the date is wrong is because tvbrain says it was shown a week earlier and also the the partial LWT trail is for programmes on NEXT Saturday.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Y547YiOX8
It's just a clip.
Five minutes of wiped from a missing Saturday Picture Show from 26/05/1984 featuring Limahl.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH2qWwauebo
Ok, it's not a full show, just 20 minutes of one.
This is an extract from the wiped edition of TVS' Motormouth from 10/12/1988. And you won't have seen this recently as it's only been uploaded for 4 minutes prior to this post!
Thanks to the VideotapeFTW youtube channel:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzLAMxk_8U
In the meantime, it's Sunday again and the ADC TV Collection youtube channel has uploaded another wiped Wolf It! This is the edition from 26/11/1994, SE02, E06.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFbECIHqF8
This was wiped, or certainly not kept by ATV/ITV.
That said, Kaleidoscope have got a copy of this, and it's available on the 'grey market' in the US.
Anyway, it's an episode of the 50s series 'Sailor of Fortune', and this is from 28/09/1956 and this instalment is called 'the Final Bargain'.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUn-JkyKfaM
This isn't a repeat post - this is another Sit Up and Listen - one I missed - as uploaded by Group member Aidan Lunn on his Sticky tape 'n' rust youtube channel.
It's my old neighbour Brian Blessed again and this is from 23/11/1982. It starts at about 4.40 or so in. There's also Thames IVC with Philip Elsmore.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsDGd9bxBO8
This is off-topic.... a bit.
This IS missing (apparently), but it's radio.
It's an excerpt from Variety Bandbox from 29/01/1950 and it is Reg Dixon. Only uploaded today.
Please note that the actual clip doesn't start immediately....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwWuFqKJW8Q
I haven't been very active recently because of.... life.
That said, I just want to announce a discovery.
It's OLD!
The show in question is 'Sunday Story', the five minute early 60s religious filler story programme for weans and the episode(s*) in question is 'Stories from Daniel' 27/05/1962 as told the marvellous Eartha Kitt. It's actually now at the BFI and I was alerted to this by my friend Anonymous of Anglia, most of the work is his. It's on 35mm and it's a telerecording.
(*You'll note the parentheses and asterisk. This is because, although not actually labelled per se at the BFI with a title, that there are three films (all of just over 5 minutes long), This very oddly ties in with the fact that the Stories of Daniel was actually a three-parter, the other instalments being shown on 03/06/1962 and 10/06/1962. This would lead me to think that all three are now extant and this would really make sense.)
The last Sunday Story that was found was the 'the Story of Ruth', which was found in Australia the best part of 12 years back.
""SUNDAY STORY
Stories from Daniel
27.05.1962 The Fiery Furnace (missing)
BFI identifier16694
Title
Eartha Kitt Tells Stories from Daniel: 1 - The Fiery Furnace (Original)
Date1962-05-27 (Television)
Production countryUnited Kingdom
Production companyBBC
SynopsisEartha Kitt relates the story of Daniel. (NFA Catalogue)
CategoryNon Fiction
CreditsDirector: John Elphinstone-Fyffe
Production Company: BBC
Collections
Film / Videoview all
35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing
Scripts / DocumentsMusic Cue Sheet (Special Collections) - MUS-993
As you may or may not know I am taking a relative hiatus from finding missing TV.
That said, I do subscribe to a lot of youtube channels and Group Member Aidan Lunn has uploaded another wee bit of Thames continuity which includes a bit of Mr Elsmore and then a Sit Up and Listen from 09/08/1982. These are of course on his Sticky tape 'n' rust youtube channel.
Anyways, the upload is here and your reader for the night is Sian Phillips:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xMMb-fPCY
A tiddly wee spot this one.
This is an edition of Disney Club* (STV), and it's from xx/11/1991.
There isn't a lot to see here apart from an interview and mime (not simultaneous) by the group the Rebel Pebbles; most of the cartoons have been cut, but I thought I'd reference the upload as most editions were either not kept or if they do exist are in copyright hell and you'll never see them again anyway. That, and it proves I'm still alive.
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=R66k29PFoIg
*Of course, many Scots viewers thought this was a programme about folk having an aversion to nightspots. 🏴🏴🏴🏴
Just as I'm about to go offline I spy out of the corner of my eye a partial upload of a mostly missing Coast to Coast - some of the film reports are extant. This is bookended by an ITN News and a Friday Report (also TVS) - I have no idea of the archive status of this.
The rather notable date for this is 16/10/1987 and almost all of this upload concerns the weather that had occurred in the previous 24 hours - that being 'the Great Storm of 1987'. EVEN THEN, the TV Networks were slipping a few groats to the BBC for that famous Michael Fish clip (ITN being the first culprit with their airing of it from about 8.57 in during the upload).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AkzaustSY
Just for St Andrew's Day 🏴🏴🏴🏴I thought I would very quickly try and find a missing Scottish programme, even a wee one.
And you cannae get much more wee than this.
By complete fluke, I stumbled upon a Grampian TV 'Reflections' broadcast (preceded by IVC and followed by some Cricket news, anthem and Closedown) from 06/06/1987 as uploaded by Group Member Aidan Lunn on his Sticky tape 'n' rust channel.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7thK30Gbqs
The Rev I.M Jolly sadly not featured....
This will be very low-interest - it's a couple of wee kids playing accordion - but this is a bit of footage from a wiped show.
The show in question is the Glen Michael Cavalcade, which under various titles ran on STV regionally for something like 23 years.
Anyway, this is for Graham Gourlay. There are a few more clips of the show on youtube, but I'd referenced them all before including the Alan Cumming one (which I understand he's now seen), but I'd missed this one.
All I can tell you is it's either from 1981 or 1982 and they're pretty much all missing.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QraRFoSYuJg
Aidan Lunn ""That moment when you discover the Big Breakfast edition you found actually no longer exists in the Channel 4 Archive! It’s missing according to TV Brain!"" 12/07/1999:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=788YrCy283M
Torbay or not Torbay, that is the question.
Well, if it is, here's the answer....
This is a weensy bit of footage, believed to have come from an edition of Westward Diary from sometime in 1971, as presented by the Plymouth company's very own John Doyle. You may note it's in monochrome and that is because it was transmitted in monochrome as WWTV was gradually going colour throughout this year:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZYwCb8s3-s
The Computer Channel. Not exactly well-remembered, but it was there in 1990, another offspring of the Astra satellite. Whether or not you think that takes minority viewing to another level and beyond is up to you, but the first broadcast - the Launch Show - would be rather historic, especially it's somewhere in the ether rather than in the archives.
And also here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdKwcskgk5M
Missing Sport?
Yes, of course, there's plenty of it missing - and I for one do not have that many contacts within the semi-autonomous divisions of the BBC and ITV that deal with it.
That all said, the Mid Week Match (part of the 'Wednesday Special' umbrella-brand of ITV's entertainment schedule) from 11/05/1977 - the ECWC Final for aficionados of footy - is meant to be missing.
Except it's here, Brian Moore commentary and all.
I wouldn't be surprised if ITV Sport do have a copy, but the match was a Dutch TV presentation, and that means copyright hell. (I expect dear old Uncle Brian was safely wrapped up in the warm of Kent House enjoying his pipe and a tote of medicinal whisky.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5t1zJg_vCg
(Of course, my beloved Saints went out in the quarter finals to the eventual runners-up.)
Here's one I missed, sort of....
I couldn't find out the tx date for this - and I still can't - other than it's an edition of Sale of the Century from 1982.
The reason I'm posting about this edition is that with the exception of one episode from that year, all are missing, and it's not THAT edition, *ergo.... it's a missing one.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvbkAupGqfQ
Gordon Beattie, this one's for you! 🏴🏴🏴🏴
(* I used the word 'ergo' in front of my ex-wife once, and she asked me who the hell WAS ergo? A friend?)
I'll be honest with you, I THINK this is from a wiped programme but I couldn't find the listing on tvbrain. I remember a partial off-air being found some years back, but not the whole thing.
Anywayanyhowanywhere, this is the audio ONLY of the Royal Gala in Aid of the Mexico Olympic Fund from 1968.
It was only uploaded yesterday, so it's pretty new.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuNraQSfDmk
Thanks to the elviskline99 channel for this.
As I note every discovery on here, just to let you all know that a part of a series that was meant to be completely missing, does in fact partly exist. Literally PART of it.
That lesser remembered HTV series Regional Flavour (a show mainly focussing on cookery) is meant to be completely gone.
There's actually a sepmag at the wonderful National Library of Wales, and that is just one item, rather than the whole show!
discover.library.wales/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma99281100802419&context=L&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=NSSAW_ITV&query=any,contains,%22REGIONAL%20FLAVOUR%22&offset=0
This is a repeat find - my original discovery being taken off youtube for copyright strikes - and the interest in this wiped episode is going to be minimal.
That all said, I don't care.
You may or probably may not recall two episodes of Eastenders were junked due to either a paperwork error or faulty tape (I've heard both stories).
AnyOldKentRoad, I located them both. The latter one - 09/11/1989 - got taken off youtube. However, it has since reappeared and here it is:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNTYa47xsc
This is off-topic.
It's missing radio (apparently).
The Radio 4 play 'A Morbid Taste for Bones', a Cadfael story, as broadcast 29/11/1980 is meant to be lost, according to tvbrain.
It's on youtube, only uploaded this year.
I apologize in advance if this has been known about - my knowledge of missing radio is somewhat scanty to say the least - but anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoxelAllaVM
XTC from a partially wiped Multi-Coloured Swap Shop? Uploaded today? Oh, golly, YES!
Wiltshire's finest performing Paper and Iron (Notes and Coins) from the partly-junked edition from 21/02/1981, as uploaded by the excellent ScottishTeeVee channel.
I'd also like to dedicate this discovery of a modern antiquity to a very good Irish musician acquaintance of mine.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl0hDF7OzPY
So, I've found another Home Cookery Club. The world might not care, but I do and I take great pleasure in finding anything missing.... honestly (even those PPBs I found in Canada).
So here is 'Apple and Cheshire Flan', the edition from 03/10/1985, as repeated here on this upload by the wonderful ADC TV Collection channel from 06/05/1987. There's also some TVS IVC and adverts and a lot of other stuff for enthusiasts of continuity and commercials.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_fvnwgHYY
(sigh).
So this is 1984 wiped episode of Gambit, or, well.... most of it.
The 1984 series is completely missing.
Also, it's an optical transfer of a domestic VT.
So the upload quality is what it is, it's like an upload from a mobile phone.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozI_bvSl6M4
A missing Wolf It! from 02/11/1994? Yes.
Thanks again to the ADC TV Collection. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSPqhHuJOM
Some more wiped programmes. (It's not really much of a 'hiatus' this, is it?)
ATV Schools, this.... Believe It or Not, the edition is actually called 'Are We Free' (rather than 'Our Freedom'), originally shown on 24/01/1978, here from a 1980 rebroadcast, ex-N1700:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W3bVjhFVN0
and then 'Who Am I?', originally shown 10/01/1978, again from a 1980 rebroadcast:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbxB6eTw9tQ
Huge thanks again to the Vintage Schools TV youtube channel.
Oooh, and there's also this - 'Christianity - Roman Catholic and Baptist', from 09/02/1981:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTout0eRao
And....another wiped ATV Schools programme....
The reason this is a discovery NOW is because it only got added to the tvbrain database in recent months as lost, so I had no idea it was gone.
AnyWaylonJennings, this is Stop Look Listen and the edition is called 'Baker' and it was originally shown on 02/12/1981.
Many thanks to the ADC TV Collection for the upload:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxrhzaq-Mg
.... and here's the other missing episode from the early 80s run of Stop Look Listen.
This one is called 'Big Store' and it was originally broadcast on 01/12/1982. This is from a 1986 rebroadcast. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1AMNY04wY
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME....
DAVID FROST'S MOON PARTY ALERT!!!!!
Something is better than nothing....
'Man on the Moon' (colloquially best known as 'David Frost's Moon Party', which explains the show's format a darn sight better than the bland eventual title....) was ITV's rival to the BBC's Apollo 11 coverage.
The human race's finest technical achievement, all interspersed with live performances by the likes of Engelbert and Cliff.
It was almost unanimously panned as the critics derided the fact that light entertainment would be paired with something as important as humans getting to the Moon.
And, lo.... it disappeared. No trace remained, unlike the footsteps of Neil'n'Buzz on the satellite.
Despite all this - or maybe because of it - the programme was voted 53rd in the list of Most Wanted Lost TV Shows.... and I am delighted to report that a tiddly bit of off-air audio and 8mm film of the programme does exist. It's been hiding in plain sight for many a year....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYOKUx-shc
And that's it for now.
For those people who've actually read all of this, well done, you can buy that copy of War and Peace now, knowing you're safe that you have better concentration than dried soup. And I don't even know what that means.
The more eagle-eyed and sharper-brained amongst you may notice that this thread is almost written in a diary format, and that's because it almost is. So I'm just listing the discoveries of the previous months with the comments I wrote at the time.
Noting that there are LOADS of Dusty Springfield audios around from wiped shows, I thought it wouldn't be too difficult to locate another that I would have somehow missed over the years and I think I just have.
So this is Ms Springfield performing on 'It's Lulu, Not to Mention Dudley Moore', 29/11/1972 and the song being performed is Scarborough Fair. Easiest 60 seconds of my life that.
Cue the tape:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUUT3M0y3y8
This is actually rather good.
A mostly complete audio of a Top of the Pops from 06/05/1964.
Yes, yes, it was uploaded three years back but only 33 people have heard it in that time!!!!!
Maybe not as interesting as the ones after the 'miming ban', but still an interesting historical document nonetheless. As far as I know none of we hardcore TOTP hardcore collectors have this and it's not in general circulation:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KtW_CZEySI
(plus we now know the Orby film was made in Stratford Upon Avon (almost certainly shot on the 4th or 5th May, plus we can ascertain the correct running order of songs.)
This particular series has given me nothing but trouble over the years; let me explain.
Murun Buchstansangur was a wonderfully leftfield cartoon, shown on Channel 4 between 1982 and 1987. They made 52 episodes, and the whereabouts of 16 of these are known about. The series was also exported to a few countries, including Norway.
The problem has been trying to ascertain whether all or even some of the episodes are with any of the creatives involved (I have not managed to get a hold of Timothy Forder, and moreover Bevanfield are no longer in existence) so I'm a rock stuck in a hard place, to busticate a phrase.
Anyswitchswaybutsluice, there are 16 episodes on youtube (an annoying number, as it's the same as what's known about) - but these are not all of the extant 16 episodes, some are and some aren't. So rather than spend even more hours than I already have on this project over the past 10 years, I'm just going to post the episodes that are on youtube so at least you can enjoy them. I'm well aware episodes are being traded by collectors, so the more keen fans of the show may have owned some or all of these.
www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22MURUN+BUCHSTANSANGUR%22%22episode%22&sp=EgIQAQ%253D%253D
News of minor interest yet again.
A 16mm Southern TV report - possibly from Day by Day or a Southern News - has turned up at the Imperial War Museum; I say 'turned up' as it wasn't there last time I checked....
The report is: 'Edited elements of a television report on the satellite telescope earth station (Radome) at the Signals Research and Development Establishment (SRDE), Christchurch, Dorset. Includes footage of the Radome itself soon after the initial installation as well as an interview with RSRE Director Cedric Stevens.'
It's down on their database as 'Satellite Station' and is on 16mm.
When you have a programme that has 'some' elements remaining - but that includes a filmed report only as a holding negative, and then only a portion of the remaining edition as well, and that being picture only, then I think any sensible person would label that a basically missing episode. (And despite not being even remotely sensible, I think that too.)
So, after taking my usual customary crane around youtube, I found this wee gem as part of the NYJO video collection. It's basically a jam session (any excuse for Mr Read to play guitar, eh?) and features a couple of well-known names and some lessor known ones who are excellent musicians.
The show? Oh, yes, Saturday Superstore and the date being 19th March 1983.
I suppose you'd like to see the clip? ANYONE?
Well here it is anyway, and just remember you all, Cheggers can't be Boozers*.
ROLL TAPE!:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjudn_LW34
*(c)
XTC. Legends, right?
This is Swindon's finest performing my favourite track of theirs 'Senses Working Overtime' on Granada TV's 'Late Night from Two' (02/02/1982).
Now I'm not 100% sure if it's wiped. I've never seen it before and I can't find a listing, so it's 50/50 on that.
One other thing to note - the track is actually a re-recorded version (spot the differences in Verse 2 with the vocal), although it's quite obviously mimed.
Anyway, revel in this, it's fab:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXXYbHqdeBQ
Ok, this may be a bit pointless to most of you, but here's literally a 'goodbye' from a wiped Jackanory (10/02/1975) which had Ed Bishop reading.
There's continuity and a junction.
First time I've located even a smidgy of Jackanory ever.... and it's almost nothing!!!! www.youtube.com/watch?v=39a7b0e8cHg
The Video Sounds episode from 1982 (filmed in 1981) of Siouxsie and the Banshees at Nottingham.
Yes, it's been doing the rounds of collectors since.... 1982..... that said, the master tape's whereabouts aren't known despite there being a shedload of VHS copies being shared between people with thick mascara.
So, erm.... yeah. It's here and in slightly better nick than my copy:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ2lbs4BdDw
a very small discovery to inform you about....
It appears that Fremantle have at least part of one thought-to-be-lost edition of The World Around Us - this being the last edition of Season 44, 'Open Session', from 23/03/1976.
How do I know this? Well, six years ago they uploaded a couple of wee mute clips from the edition (which noone seems to have spotted came from a wiped show, not just me).
The clips are mute and there is the possibility that they just retained these as stock footage.
To be completist, here they are:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnSAyBQAyoU AND www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdpq7uPOYqo
In a way, there's nothing much to see here, but there's a very good point I want to make.
With a lot of Magpie editions, they are wiped, gone, junked.
But, in addition to the programmes that do exist (including the two I got back to Kaleidoscope) there are a load of filmed reports made on location that Fremantle have.
Exhibit A, me lud.... Jenny Hanley goes to Malta.... first shown on Magpie 25/07/1975. The edition is lost, but a quarter of it exists thus:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=49NZTsmQv2w
Something I appear to have missed....
Huntley's Archive appear to have a lengthy filmed insert from an otherwise missing believed wiped edition of Wednesday Magazine, 20/06/1962.
www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1030752&itemw=4&itemf=0001&itemstep=1&itemx=102&fbclid=IwAR1NCnuUFK5CJUzDvtxzjLL3epgsspJ-Kdos2rrRQkN5hQuYymA8Ydgl_Zo
You may have seen one or both of these uploads before but some new information for you.
There's a debate in certain circles as how Central TV started and I've solved it. Mike Prince is often credited with opening Central, but he didn't. What he DID do was make a Promotional Programme for Central which was not shown on the ITV network as such, but is fortunately retained; I feel this would have been better:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r6M4xiuXzE
The actual first transmission was this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwovripelvQ
Something just quickly to mention, mainly old info with a tiny bit of new knowledge.
Huntley Archives have an unnamed episode of H.M.S Paradise.
Now, I reported this some years back, so a few of you might remember that:- www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1036758...
So why am I repeating myself? We don't even know which episode it is? Two exist (one being a discovery from just a few years back with a collector in Hertfordshire, thanks to him and, erm, some chain-smoking scruffbag....🤣)
Well, turns out Huntley ALSO have a title sequence. This is fairly important as both extant episodes are missing either the opening or closing bits!
www.huntleyarchives.com/preview.asp?image=1008063...
One of my favourite sorts of discoveries is finding something the first bit of TV from an otherwise completely wiped set of programmes and....
Presenting Lena Martell was a BBC Scotland🏴 series that ran from 1971 through to 1973.
And it's all gone - or rather it was, but Irish comic Mike Newman kept a tape of the first show (11/09/1971) - which he appeared on - and I am delighted that he uploaded it to youtube:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb-ZPgcjGcg
Kudos to my friend at VHS Rewinds. More wiped stuff and although this won't be top of anyone's wishlist, I'm pleased with all of them....
This is Cliff being interviewed on ATV Today, 26/11/1981.
And no, you won't have seen this on youtube until the now as I'm the first viewer!!!! (well, since 1981 anyway....) www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg5GnnTJrrM
Here's another find from this evening:-
This is the final Wolf It! edition from Series 1, 17/02/1994:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiYvvv19DY
This is a wee bit for the completist because it WAS wiped, but Kaleidoscope have had a copy for a few years.
This is an episode of Make the Music Speak, 18/06/1977, BBC Scotland. Having spotted that Lena Martell yesterday this came up on my 'suggested' on youtube.
Lena's guests on this are Brotherhood of Man supplying the additional music and the wonderful Les Dawson supplying the wit.
This has been on youtube many a year now, but it's something I seem to have missed. The additional footage on this and Janey Kirk's other uploads are of shows that exist in full.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=32aLt5dxrm8
How I love spotting missing programmes before breakfast....
Group member Aidan Lunn has his own youtube Channel sticky tape'n'rust and as of this morning he uploaded another of those Closedown programmes, this one being a Sit Up and Listen from 30/11/1982. (Starts around 6.10)
Your reader is the Rev. Peter Lewis (not to be confused with the velvet-voiced IVC man, who as far I know never took holy orders). www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k9HAGu86v0
I'll probably be finding my usual "minority interest"* shows until the wee hours, so here's another bit of wiped for youse.
This is the Max Headroom Show from 03/02/1987 and the guest is Rutger Hauer.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsVJJuMiDHQ
(*like I care.)
A missing radio broadcast IS off-topic. How I revel in my sins, eh?
Look, those wonderful people at Radio Circle probably know about this, but I didn't and some of you won't have, so....
This is a radio Thirty Minute Theatre from 25/11/1958, 'the New Catacomb', listed as wiped on tvbrain:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4qcVj4GX4
I'm going to pretend I was saving this, rather than it was something I missed, right?
As uploaded only a few short days ago as uploaded by Mark Grout, here's the audio to a missing Pop Quest from 14/11/1975 - the special guests are Sparks and the edition is the semi-final between Thames and HTV:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE-Nk6YD_Sw
Glaringly off-topic.
(At this point I wish to say the moderators of this Forum are amazing wonderful people who will forgive me once again, PLEASE!)
I get bored sometimes and look for ""lost films"".
So, 'Stark Mad' was a 1929 film:- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark_Mad
I quote: 'The film was released in both a sound version and a silent version for theaters not converted to sound. Both sound and silent versions are lost. The soundtrack, which was recorded separately on Vitaphone disks, may survive in private hands.'
Erm, do you mean that the Vitaphone discs for the film and the trailer survive at UCLA.... BECAUSE THEY DO:-
www.worldcat.org/title/423639638
www.worldcat.org/title/423639965
Hiding in plain sight. Blah.
I'd like to personally thank a chap called Darren Lee for going beyond the norm to identify some existing bits of otherwise lots editions of Zokko. The vast majority of information below was pinched from his research:-
This is a compilation from that programme which is still extant in the vaults but there are bits from wiped editions:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZkRSDOXTE
The bit from 03/01/1970 contains 'Skayn and the Moon People' episode 5, identifiable to that date:
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/84695d59a30a4158bec0d0e3d0051e56
The extract from 'Fantasia' is presumably from 13/12/1969,
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/9665ff221d06436ea787c27df87fba2c
The Inaros Sisters act is presumably from 06/12/1969,
genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/eec20114934a45fb9a3ab701832d2102
(and their single credit on imdb for 3/1/1970 is therefore wrong).
'Side-splitting funsters' Davies and Grey appeared twice, this appearance presumably being the 2nd series one from 31/01/1970, genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/fde413f2ed764c019bb3fbde40a053ab
So just to recap again - this compilation exists and those bits mentioned come from otherwise wiped editions.
More Cliff. (Not the very wonderful Cliff Chapman, but Mr Richard.)
I thought I would be rather annoying (as usual) and see if I could find any lost Cliff Richard over the course of an hour. It took me 39 minutes, but having consulted a couple of databases I realized that there was almost nothing existing from his 1972 'It's Cliff Richard' series aside from that ZDF-held insert of TNS that I told you all about yonks ago.
So, here's a wee bit of audio of Cliffypoos singing 'Storm in a Teacup' with the Flirtations on his aforementioned series, the episode being 18/03/1972.
Not even the Dutch Cliff Richard fan club have this, and they're more devoted than nuns.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JPEoz2do0M
Ok. I'm quite poorly, having a perfect storm of illnesses right now, so not doing much, apologies.
This isn't even wiped. It was, though and it's not archived in the UK.
One thing I spotted in the Library of Congress some years back was the Associated-Rediffusion schools programme on the Scottish Play.
'The Play Itself' (19/03/1958) is presented here - in truncated form of only a few wee minutes - but this has never surfaced online before and A/R Schools programmes are as rare as owt. Like I said, it WAS wiped.
Thanks to VHS Rewinds for this:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRdkE9UieSs
Also.... possibly the most mind-numbing bit of information about found footage you'll ever get....
The clip of Anita Harris singing 'Tuppenny Bus Ride' from an otherwise wiped edition of the completely wiped LWT childrens' series Stewpot (found on the end of a 2-inch spool, I'm told) has been dated to 22/08/1970.
The clip was shown a few years ago at a Kaleidoscope event.
Greetings from the Planet Raymi where its' sole occupant is functioning a wee bit on autopilot. That disclaimer made, I'm still trying to look for stuff but I have all the energy of a squashed haggis.
Not wanting to let the side down, here's another discovery although this was a mere ten minutes of laboured effort.
It's more audio and it's more Cliff Richard, in surprisingly good quality.
The track here is a cover of Tim Hardin's 'Reason to Believe', which had less than a year prior to this recording was more famously performed by Rod Stewart and was the original A-side to the Maggie May single. The recording comes from the 'It's Cliff Richard' show as shown by the BBC on 01/01/1972. Even the cliffrichardsongs database don't know about this*.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnppsuszTx4
(* actually they do now. I emailed them.)
This is kind-of-wiped.
It was wiped. Kaleidoscope have a copy now, from a different recording, so there are two copies in existence, whereas ten years ago, there weren't any....
Anywayanyhowanywhere, this is an edition of Points of View, and it's from 13/03/1981 and it's been uploaded by the JMX TV Archive in the last 20 minutes.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8VtzT1eZnc
An edition of TVS' local round-up Coast to Coast from 17/06/1988 for you, again as uploaded by the JMX TV Archive channel at about midnight just the now.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsk5MkEwILw
This has never been missing and barely counts as a British programme. That said, it was part-financed and partly co-ordinated by Rediffusion who received an on-screen credit, and I can't locate a copy in any UK Archive. (*last time I didn't see it, but today the BFI's website appears to be down, so, blaaaaaaaaaah).
Yes, it's one of those Intertels again; this one being called 'Room Down Under', which was a documentary about immigration in Australia, or emigration to.... I suppose, as a matter of perspective.
While I haven't actually located the exact UK transmission date yet, it was shown on 15/06/1964 in the US and much of the work was done by Westinghouse.
16mm copies exist at the Library of Congress and Indiana University Libraries in the US of A and the NFSA in Australia.
www.collection.nfsa.gov.au/title/309650
americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-512-gx44q7rn6s
Another part of a previously wiped TOTP from the VHS Rewinds channel, 19/02/1976:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHooghmRYI
An incomplete episode of the Big Breakfast here - it's the Easter Holidays and that will explain the retooled 'Bigger Breakfast' title. The tx date is Thursday 9th April 1998 and this upload (which is only 9 days old) features the presenting talents of Melanie Sykes and Bill and Ben. Here they masquerade as Ant and Dec, still wearing flowerpot-type thingies on their heads and making comments in some spurious form that remains a mystery to most. Later of course, they married and gave birth to Justin Bieber.
Get ready to rumble-de-thumps.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_GTIoArxg
If this exists, it's going to be a domestic recording only and Kaleidoscope are going to be the ones who have it, AND, if that's the case, it came from one of my discoveries.
Living and Growing was one of Grampian TV's successes; it was the 'birds and the bees' series that the originally made in 1968, remade in 1975. re-edited and possibly made more of in 1976 and then remade again in the 1980s.
The whole thing is very confusing and before I'd located some episodes in the National Library of Scotland I'd actually found several in the National Arts Education Archive. Those tapes went back to Kaleidoscope and those were off-air from more than one domestic VT format and they all dated from the 1970s and 1980s.
This appears to come from a completely different recording and the uploader says it's from a 1976 rebroadcast, which seems quite possible. This was actually colour episode 1, Social Development, originally broadcast 13/01/1975.
So just to recap, if this does exist it came off one of the old NAEA tapes, but I've not had it confirmed.
Some brief audio extracts from what I think is a wiped edition of Magpie.
This is the edition where the results of the Magpie Carol Writing Competition were revealed. While I am not sure, I believe it's from 21/12/1979 - this would be the final edition of the year before their Review of the Year (which exists and has been previously covered in a post).
The uploader is the chap who won the boys' section of the competition.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROIObPHEJPY
Well, the minority-interest wiped programme here is at the end of the tape and it's an edition of TVS 'Company', their closedown offering.
This is actually the oldest one I've located on youtube, but to be truthful, I don't actually look that hard for them....
Anyway, it's from 02/01/1983 and it starts around 34.40 in.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2rL_yjIkoQ
It WAS wiped. (I mean, it still is, but there is a copy with Kaleidoscope from a different source). Plus this is only half an episode. But do you care? Do I care? (answers on a postcard to Mr S. Baldwin, Braverman Towers, FannyandJohnnieCradock Loaning, Twannock, Frattonshire. The winner will receive nothing. Not even a lukewarm puddle.)
This is the second half of an episode of Movie Memories, Anglia TV, from 04/07/1985 and the subject is Joan Sims. A lot of editions did get erased but many have been recovered and I believe there's only 5 yet to be found in some form or other.
Thanks to VHS Rewinds for this upload today.
PS:- I am very very aware of the Charles Hawtrey edition. It stalks me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlP9S81exKg
I socially aware up this morning feeling like death's sicker cousin and I thought the best thing I could do was to try and locate something - anything - before midday.
Well, I have.
Due to database updates it transpires there is now more information about About Britain episodes on tvbrain and the following the editions of the series - 24/06/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Mumbles to Laugarne'; 01/07/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Caldey Island to the Smalls' and 08/07/1977 'The Shores of Wales: St. Brides Bay to Fishguard' all exist on 16mm at the NLW. All are currently listed as missing on tvbrain.
Deffrais bore ma yn teimlo fel cefnder angau mwy sâl ac roeddwn i'n meddwl mai'r peth gorau y gallwn i ei wneud oedd ceisio dod o hyd i rywbeth - unrhyw beth - cyn hanner dydd.
Wel, mae gen i.
Oherwydd diweddariadau cronfa ddata mae'n digwydd mae mwy o wybodaeth bellach am benodau About Britain ar tvbrain a'r rhifynnau canlynol o'r gyfres - 24/06/1977 'The Shores of Wales: Mumbles to Laugarne'; 01/07/1977 'O Lannau Cymru: Ynys Bŷr i'r Smalls' a 08/07/1977 'Glannau Cymru: Bae Sain Ffraid i Abergwaun' i gyd yn bodoli ar 16mm yn LlGC. Mae pob un wedi'i restru fel rhai coll ar tvbrain. (google translate)
discover.library.wales/discovery/search?query=any,contains,shores%20of%20wales&tab=NSSAW_ITV&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&facet=searchcreationdate,include,1970%7C,%7C1980&lang=en&offset=0
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyC_zv3W7HM
It wouldn't be a month without finding this godless heathen locating a Songs of Praise of some sort, now would it?
So, in time-honoured tradition, I'd like to tell you that there's a SOUND DISC of a wiped SoP, that edition being "Songs of Praise from Gilgal Baptist Church, Porthcawl.", from 05/11/1972. This is of course located in the National Library of Wales. Had on.... a record release? Ooooooh.... And after checking the serial number against releases by the label, the date fits!
discover.library.wales/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma99366860902419&context=L&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=NSSAW_ITV&query=any,contains,songs%20praise&sortby=date_a&offset=0
More minority viewing here and this is a short epilogue programme made by those fine people at Southern TV.
Entitled 'Rome Comes to Canterbury', it's more of a discussion than your usual pre-Closedown readings on some of the other regional ITV channels. The small programme is debating whether the 1982 Papal visit to the UK is going to be a good thing. The Southampton-based Evengelical Vicar says it isn't. Well, the Pope DID go to Canterbury, but he didn't go to Southampton in 1982. We signed Peter Shilton instead.
As uploaded a few months back on his youtube channel sticky tape'n'rust by Group member Aidan Lunn. Starts at about 3.45.
This isn't quite wiped - and it isn't quite extant!
Let me explain....
Sunday Night was one of the BBC's arts shows, with a wandering brief. The vast majority of editions exist, as well, which is fab.
However, 'Mr. Sludge, the Medium' - the Jonathan Miller-produced episode from 06/02/1966 - is "a 16mm combined optical print so the final sound mix is incomplete."
An off-air of the soundtrack has also been uploaded to youtube today:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgbvxFCfd4
I've no idea if this audio is any better.
As uploaded by elviskline99.
There's been some stunning lost TV material found in the past two weeks.
There's also this.
It's a rare recording of Anglia TV's Birthday Club - which was even more just IVC with a mascot than Gus at Westward or Puffin at Channel. It comes from sometime in December 1983:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM5r8kFZ0Us
I do want an easy life, and having thought about it I decided I'd quickly investigate where the rumours about the partial audios of the 1970 series of 'It's Cliff Richard' did actually exist somewhere in the ether as rumoured or whether it was all pony. Well, they do, and they're also in the land of Lego, Bacon and Hans Christian Andersen, Denmark....
Ok. Partial audio recordings exist for all 13 shows, including the one that exists on Digibeta:- www.missumgs.dk/.../HomeCliff2/WeeklySerie2.html
.... and then more partial audio recordings from all of the completely wiped* 1971 Series:- www.missumgs.dk/.../HomeCliff2/WeeklySerie.html
.... and also even more partial audio excerpts from all of the completely wiped* 1972 Series:- www.missumgs.dk/.../It'sCliffRichardSeries.html
That's a lot of audio; partial recordings of 39 episodes (BBC Vidiprinter - THIRTY-NINE). 38 were wiped.
Please note, that by and large these are partial audio recordings because there is very little of any of the guest stars (Clodagh, TNS, Labi Siffre et al) on here as whomsoever was taping this really was just concerned with Cliff. That said, Hank and Una crop up a fair bit. Cliff's performances are mostly complete, but not always.
(*except, of course, the ZDF-held video clips of Clodagh in 1971 and TNS in 1972 performing their Eurovision songs which were retained for Preview programmes, oh and that lousy quality On the Beach thing I spotted years ago that looked 15th generation....)
Something I missed, possibly because I blinked.
3 long years ago, the ADC TV Collection uploaded a TVS 'Farming Brief' from 25/07/1984. It's been watched around once a day since.
Today, that viewer was me.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HbcMGGkCWA
I wasn't even looking for this, sometimes lost programmes just turn up at your doorstep.
So here's an almost complete lost Merry Go Round, this is from its' rebroadcast on 08/11/1982, rather than its' first showing on 21/01/1980.
The correct title is 'Our Place: City' and it revolves around Newcastle Upon Tyne.
As uploaded by the Vintage Schools TV channel, kudos and thanks to them. 🙂
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5THahouLyKY
Another audio in existence from a missing programme - thank you if you're reading this - is But Seriously from 25/12/1970:-
""At the end of another Christmas Day three entertainers explain what the story of the Nativity means to them.
A BBC production for BBC 1. Transmission details are for BBC 1.
Usual duration: 10 minutes
Produced and directed by R. T. Brooks.
Joyce Grenfell (Interviewee), Cyril Fletcher (Interviewee), Ernie Wise (Interviewee).""
It's kind of an audio day today.
Jonathan Kelly was an Irish singer-songwriter who didn't achieve as much commercial success as he deserved, releasing two albums in the 1970s.
Another tragedy is that his two appearances on the Old Grey Whistle Test were both junked.
Fortunately, the audio for both is on youtube:-
11/04/1972:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXp7lLdG9k
AND
08/05/1973:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYXLdIRmLWI
A little bit 'completist', again, this one, but it's only been uploaded today.
Here are some extracts of Tiswas from 1981 - and I think they're just from the 28/03/1981 edition, which was the last edition that Chris Tarrant presented.
The complete edition was wiped, but it has been recovered and is probably out there in collectorsville in full.
Nonetheless I'm posting about this one because it may interest some, and having not seen that edition, this 15 minutes or so may be in better quality, who knows?
Anyway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Vv_GwRoZo
Thanks to the VHS Rewinds channel again.
This is a repost of kind, but with good reason.
The very wonderful David King shared his recording of the VOCAL version of the Crossroads theme with the Crossroads Fan Club and it is now on youtube.
This comes from Episode 1500, and the vocalist is Carl Wayne who used to be in the Move.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XXHZrBFGtM
This is a pre-programme programme, if you like. 🤣
This wasn't even separately billed in the Radio Times.
Wee Philip Jenkinson introduces the first 'talkie' the Jazz Singer on BBC 2, the tx date being 02/10/1977. Phil's bit lasts almost 19 minutes.
While I have no firm indication this was wiped, I think the chance of it still existing are somewhat less than excellent if it wasnae even billed!
Anyway, with my usual thanks to VHS Rewinds, cue Phil:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSqXqqEZNvM
It's very hard to work out if this is a lost programme or not.
Having trawled through the complete list of Clapperboard editions within 20 minutes of waking up and my frazzled brain still feeling like a hardened sponge, my current best guess as to which partial episode this is currently stands as 'Early Hollywood Musicals' (03/02/1975), in which case this is a missing edition.
That said, it is just a guess and should anyone wish to go through the complete list and suggest or prove it's another edition, please do. I haven't even had a coffee yet.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4iFGSE7UH8
Just uploaded this morning, thanks again to VHS Rewinds.
Veering haphazardly off-topic again, geographically speaking, we are blown off-course to the U.S of A. and a rather spiffing tape that I somehow overlooked (probably because I was searching for British TV).
The Doors were still going in 1972, despite the sad exit of their shy, quiet abstemious front man Jim Morrison.
One of their final TV appearances was on the Dick Cavett Show (25/08/1972) and unlike the vast majority of DC editions being preserved - and latterly donated to the Library of Congress - this comes from a show that is now longer in existence.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7oz5hLztVo
Just a wee clip from a lost 1989 Coast to Coast.
I'm afraid I can't date it any more accurately than that. TVS, not STV, in case anyone's confused....
This is Felicity Buirski performing her song 'Dream On', with an intro by Pompey Fred.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUEv2sEUU14
This is the Revd. John Jolly, not the Revd. IM Jolly.
For those of you unable to relate to my above comment, Late Call was a late night STV programme, the Caledonian cousin to things such as Night Thoughts and Epilogue.
Broadcasts were treated in the same manner as their regional English counterparts and nary a wee episode exists intentionally in the archives. Kaleidoscope have two, I think.
So here's a third from November 1984. www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3g33IsA_Fk
This is one of those weeny little closedown-type finds, and I think the date is the dark hours of Friday 22/09/1984. That said, I'm not absolutely certain and it's very much a guess.
The late programme is LWT's 'Night Thoughts', and there's a few slides and a bit of continuity too.
As uploaded just today by VHS Rewinds:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP_fVgVo3Rc
I am posting these 9-y-o uploads of the audio of a Marc Bolan interview with Sally James on Saturday Scene as I'd never actually worked out the date of them back in the day, and then promptly forgot about them.
Cue 20 minutes of research and this is from 04/10/1975.
Cue further self-embarrassment when I realize that Kaleidoscope's database says that date and I needn't have bothered with the research....
(It's noteworthy to.... erm.... note that Marc says about Supersonic broadcasting his performance of 'Dreamy Lady' tomorrow.... which was a Saturday, which at least gives me further proof that Saturday Scene was taped the day before....)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BjOlPhjPU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlc99HU_aXg
Civilization has been waiting for the moment when I noticed a missing Night Thoughts, and lo, he moment has come.
This is from 13/01/1986 and it's been uploaded by one of our own, Group Member Aidan Lunn on his [Sticky tape 'n' rust](https://www.youtube.com/@stickytapenrust6869) youtube channel and it's here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNbhyREQiKw
There's also IVC and slides and all of that.
My son challenged me to find a wiped programme in 5 minutes.
Impossible, unless one takes an easy option....
Which I did, and for which I apologize.
So, here's a wiped Songs of Praise from Burton upon Trent from 07/05/1978. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRSOQCsl7yU
(look I'm trying to get back on form, right?)
Minority minority interest. Shout out to the farmers!
Yes, I've located that rare beast - a Tyne Tees Farming Outlook. As you may know quite a few of the regional ITV companies did Farming Programmes - it may even have been a majority of them. Nonetheless, Farming Outlook isn't one of the ones as well-archived as Farming Today (ATV) which exists in full on film!
This one is in the National Library of Scotland and it's from 1979:-
search.nls.uk/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid=44NLS_MIA(filmRef)7113&context=L&vid=44NLS_VU1&lang=en_US&search_scope=SCOPE1&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=default_tab&query=any,contains,tyne%20tees&facet=rtype,include,media&offset=0
Dinah Sheridan pays tribute to the late Kenneth More shortly before a showing of the film 'Genevieve' dedicated to his memory.
The probable tx date is 15/07/1982. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxUH8sL3gyw
This isn't exactly missing.
In fact, it's not missing at all.
It's damaged.
Right, the BBC were a wee bit smitten the Osmonds back in the day - in 1974, for those who weren't there or can't remember - the Bros 'O' (and lest we forget Marie) had an Osmonds Week where there was at least a daily programme featuring the family, including one edition of TOTP (which only exists because of its' misfiling as 'Osmonds Special').
Enough of that, let's roll back to the beginning of the year, because it was on 16/01/1974 that the Beeb broadcast the docco 'On Tour with the Osmonds'.
The trouble is, the Digibeta is damaged, which apparently occurred during transfer. So you won't be seeing it anytime soon.... well apart from this youtube upload if you care to watch it.
Anyway, here's those smiling chaps from Ogden:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZ0yFShuvs
Most of an edition of Coast to Coast, TVS, 21/07/1988:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZcloMFsIf8
Only uploaded just the now by the JMX TV ARCHIVE youtube channel.
Right, some sort-of-missing audio for you. (Meaning it WAS wiped, but a copy of the audio exists, in this case with Kaleidoscope. ).
This is the Till Death Do Us Part extract of Christmas Night with the Stars from 25/12/1971.
I haven't listened to it, so I've no idea if there are any offensive phrases used.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvthe8yZ84g
This comes from the elviskline99 channel which has previously uploaded a few wiped audios in recent memory.
All the lost bits of a lost show.
No fanfare. No comments. No thumbnail.
I would feel derelict in my duty not to report any finds.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAV62BRjCRU
edited this morning....
there's another....:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcsCGDXlFJE
and.... ANOTHER:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kRYNnRBKNU
Well I haven't found anything much for a while, because I haven't been looking.
In that frame of mind, I wasn't searching for anything now either, but as fortune would have it, youtube has one of those 'suggested' thingieMcjigs, and due to that here's a missing and previously un-uploaded edition of Southern TV's Houseparty from April 1981. It's only been on youtube half an hour or so, and it isn't one of the previously uploaded editions. So that's alright then.
(And, yes, I've seen the other uploaded Houseparty editions on youtube. And, yes, yes, I write in terrible English.... 'and' at the beginning of sentences, words that aren't in any dictionary, dots and brackets in random.... places. But I think most of you ken me as opposed to want to barbie me.)
As uploaded by TheBluechickens channel: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbVYgtFZL9s
Right, I'm going to disappear again in a cloud of iced Caramel Latte and a rather strong medicinal cheroot.
I almost expect an episode of Wolf It to be uploaded on a Sunday - and this is another one that is missing....
It's Season 2, Episode 5 from 19/10/1994.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHkicXToqwo
Thanks, again, to the ADC TV Collection youtube channel.
Here's another 'piece of wiped' (as some of my friends like to call these things....!?!?!), this is a partial upload of 5 Alive, the 'pilot' episode which I think dates from 23/08/1986 rather than the following Saturday as stated by the uploader (the wonderful JMX TV Archive youtube channel).
The reason I think the date is wrong is because tvbrain says it was shown a week earlier and also the the partial LWT trail is for programmes on NEXT Saturday.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3Y547YiOX8
It's just a clip.
Five minutes of wiped from a missing Saturday Picture Show from 26/05/1984 featuring Limahl.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH2qWwauebo
Ok, it's not a full show, just 20 minutes of one.
This is an extract from the wiped edition of TVS' Motormouth from 10/12/1988. And you won't have seen this recently as it's only been uploaded for 4 minutes prior to this post!
Thanks to the VideotapeFTW youtube channel:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnzLAMxk_8U
In the meantime, it's Sunday again and the ADC TV Collection youtube channel has uploaded another wiped Wolf It! This is the edition from 26/11/1994, SE02, E06.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bFbECIHqF8
This was wiped, or certainly not kept by ATV/ITV.
That said, Kaleidoscope have got a copy of this, and it's available on the 'grey market' in the US.
Anyway, it's an episode of the 50s series 'Sailor of Fortune', and this is from 28/09/1956 and this instalment is called 'the Final Bargain'.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUn-JkyKfaM
This isn't a repeat post - this is another Sit Up and Listen - one I missed - as uploaded by Group member Aidan Lunn on his Sticky tape 'n' rust youtube channel.
It's my old neighbour Brian Blessed again and this is from 23/11/1982. It starts at about 4.40 or so in. There's also Thames IVC with Philip Elsmore.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsDGd9bxBO8
This is off-topic.... a bit.
This IS missing (apparently), but it's radio.
It's an excerpt from Variety Bandbox from 29/01/1950 and it is Reg Dixon. Only uploaded today.
Please note that the actual clip doesn't start immediately....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwWuFqKJW8Q
I haven't been very active recently because of.... life.
That said, I just want to announce a discovery.
It's OLD!
The show in question is 'Sunday Story', the five minute early 60s religious filler story programme for weans and the episode(s*) in question is 'Stories from Daniel' 27/05/1962 as told the marvellous Eartha Kitt. It's actually now at the BFI and I was alerted to this by my friend Anonymous of Anglia, most of the work is his. It's on 35mm and it's a telerecording.
(*You'll note the parentheses and asterisk. This is because, although not actually labelled per se at the BFI with a title, that there are three films (all of just over 5 minutes long), This very oddly ties in with the fact that the Stories of Daniel was actually a three-parter, the other instalments being shown on 03/06/1962 and 10/06/1962. This would lead me to think that all three are now extant and this would really make sense.)
The last Sunday Story that was found was the 'the Story of Ruth', which was found in Australia the best part of 12 years back.
""SUNDAY STORY
Stories from Daniel
27.05.1962 The Fiery Furnace (missing)
BFI identifier16694
Title
Eartha Kitt Tells Stories from Daniel: 1 - The Fiery Furnace (Original)
Date1962-05-27 (Television)
Production countryUnited Kingdom
Production companyBBC
SynopsisEartha Kitt relates the story of Daniel. (NFA Catalogue)
CategoryNon Fiction
CreditsDirector: John Elphinstone-Fyffe
Production Company: BBC
Collections
Film / Videoview all
35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing35mm Telerecorded Positive - Acetate - Combined - Viewing
Scripts / DocumentsMusic Cue Sheet (Special Collections) - MUS-993
As you may or may not know I am taking a relative hiatus from finding missing TV.
That said, I do subscribe to a lot of youtube channels and Group Member Aidan Lunn has uploaded another wee bit of Thames continuity which includes a bit of Mr Elsmore and then a Sit Up and Listen from 09/08/1982. These are of course on his Sticky tape 'n' rust youtube channel.
Anyways, the upload is here and your reader for the night is Sian Phillips:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xMMb-fPCY
A tiddly wee spot this one.
This is an edition of Disney Club* (STV), and it's from xx/11/1991.
There isn't a lot to see here apart from an interview and mime (not simultaneous) by the group the Rebel Pebbles; most of the cartoons have been cut, but I thought I'd reference the upload as most editions were either not kept or if they do exist are in copyright hell and you'll never see them again anyway. That, and it proves I'm still alive.
Anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=R66k29PFoIg
*Of course, many Scots viewers thought this was a programme about folk having an aversion to nightspots. 🏴🏴🏴🏴
Just as I'm about to go offline I spy out of the corner of my eye a partial upload of a mostly missing Coast to Coast - some of the film reports are extant. This is bookended by an ITN News and a Friday Report (also TVS) - I have no idea of the archive status of this.
The rather notable date for this is 16/10/1987 and almost all of this upload concerns the weather that had occurred in the previous 24 hours - that being 'the Great Storm of 1987'. EVEN THEN, the TV Networks were slipping a few groats to the BBC for that famous Michael Fish clip (ITN being the first culprit with their airing of it from about 8.57 in during the upload).
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_AkzaustSY
Just for St Andrew's Day 🏴🏴🏴🏴I thought I would very quickly try and find a missing Scottish programme, even a wee one.
And you cannae get much more wee than this.
By complete fluke, I stumbled upon a Grampian TV 'Reflections' broadcast (preceded by IVC and followed by some Cricket news, anthem and Closedown) from 06/06/1987 as uploaded by Group Member Aidan Lunn on his Sticky tape 'n' rust channel.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7thK30Gbqs
The Rev I.M Jolly sadly not featured....
This will be very low-interest - it's a couple of wee kids playing accordion - but this is a bit of footage from a wiped show.
The show in question is the Glen Michael Cavalcade, which under various titles ran on STV regionally for something like 23 years.
Anyway, this is for Graham Gourlay. There are a few more clips of the show on youtube, but I'd referenced them all before including the Alan Cumming one (which I understand he's now seen), but I'd missed this one.
All I can tell you is it's either from 1981 or 1982 and they're pretty much all missing.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QraRFoSYuJg
Aidan Lunn ""That moment when you discover the Big Breakfast edition you found actually no longer exists in the Channel 4 Archive! It’s missing according to TV Brain!"" 12/07/1999:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=788YrCy283M
Torbay or not Torbay, that is the question.
Well, if it is, here's the answer....
This is a weensy bit of footage, believed to have come from an edition of Westward Diary from sometime in 1971, as presented by the Plymouth company's very own John Doyle. You may note it's in monochrome and that is because it was transmitted in monochrome as WWTV was gradually going colour throughout this year:-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZYwCb8s3-s
The Computer Channel. Not exactly well-remembered, but it was there in 1990, another offspring of the Astra satellite. Whether or not you think that takes minority viewing to another level and beyond is up to you, but the first broadcast - the Launch Show - would be rather historic, especially it's somewhere in the ether rather than in the archives.
And also here:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdKwcskgk5M
Missing Sport?
Yes, of course, there's plenty of it missing - and I for one do not have that many contacts within the semi-autonomous divisions of the BBC and ITV that deal with it.
That all said, the Mid Week Match (part of the 'Wednesday Special' umbrella-brand of ITV's entertainment schedule) from 11/05/1977 - the ECWC Final for aficionados of footy - is meant to be missing.
Except it's here, Brian Moore commentary and all.
I wouldn't be surprised if ITV Sport do have a copy, but the match was a Dutch TV presentation, and that means copyright hell. (I expect dear old Uncle Brian was safely wrapped up in the warm of Kent House enjoying his pipe and a tote of medicinal whisky.)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5t1zJg_vCg
(Of course, my beloved Saints went out in the quarter finals to the eventual runners-up.)
Here's one I missed, sort of....
I couldn't find out the tx date for this - and I still can't - other than it's an edition of Sale of the Century from 1982.
The reason I'm posting about this edition is that with the exception of one episode from that year, all are missing, and it's not THAT edition, *ergo.... it's a missing one.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvbkAupGqfQ
Gordon Beattie, this one's for you! 🏴🏴🏴🏴
(* I used the word 'ergo' in front of my ex-wife once, and she asked me who the hell WAS ergo? A friend?)
I'll be honest with you, I THINK this is from a wiped programme but I couldn't find the listing on tvbrain. I remember a partial off-air being found some years back, but not the whole thing.
Anywayanyhowanywhere, this is the audio ONLY of the Royal Gala in Aid of the Mexico Olympic Fund from 1968.
It was only uploaded yesterday, so it's pretty new.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuNraQSfDmk
Thanks to the elviskline99 channel for this.
As I note every discovery on here, just to let you all know that a part of a series that was meant to be completely missing, does in fact partly exist. Literally PART of it.
That lesser remembered HTV series Regional Flavour (a show mainly focussing on cookery) is meant to be completely gone.
There's actually a sepmag at the wonderful National Library of Wales, and that is just one item, rather than the whole show!
discover.library.wales/discovery/fulldisplay?docid=alma99281100802419&context=L&vid=44WHELF_NLW:44WHELF_NLW_NUI&lang=en&search_scope=NSSAW_ITV&adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&tab=NSSAW_ITV&query=any,contains,%22REGIONAL%20FLAVOUR%22&offset=0
This is a repeat find - my original discovery being taken off youtube for copyright strikes - and the interest in this wiped episode is going to be minimal.
That all said, I don't care.
You may or probably may not recall two episodes of Eastenders were junked due to either a paperwork error or faulty tape (I've heard both stories).
AnyOldKentRoad, I located them both. The latter one - 09/11/1989 - got taken off youtube. However, it has since reappeared and here it is:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNTYa47xsc
This is off-topic.
It's missing radio (apparently).
The Radio 4 play 'A Morbid Taste for Bones', a Cadfael story, as broadcast 29/11/1980 is meant to be lost, according to tvbrain.
It's on youtube, only uploaded this year.
I apologize in advance if this has been known about - my knowledge of missing radio is somewhat scanty to say the least - but anyway:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoxelAllaVM
XTC from a partially wiped Multi-Coloured Swap Shop? Uploaded today? Oh, golly, YES!
Wiltshire's finest performing Paper and Iron (Notes and Coins) from the partly-junked edition from 21/02/1981, as uploaded by the excellent ScottishTeeVee channel.
I'd also like to dedicate this discovery of a modern antiquity to a very good Irish musician acquaintance of mine.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl0hDF7OzPY
So, I've found another Home Cookery Club. The world might not care, but I do and I take great pleasure in finding anything missing.... honestly (even those PPBs I found in Canada).
So here is 'Apple and Cheshire Flan', the edition from 03/10/1985, as repeated here on this upload by the wonderful ADC TV Collection channel from 06/05/1987. There's also some TVS IVC and adverts and a lot of other stuff for enthusiasts of continuity and commercials.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK_fvnwgHYY
(sigh).
So this is 1984 wiped episode of Gambit, or, well.... most of it.
The 1984 series is completely missing.
Also, it's an optical transfer of a domestic VT.
So the upload quality is what it is, it's like an upload from a mobile phone.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozI_bvSl6M4
A missing Wolf It! from 02/11/1994? Yes.
Thanks again to the ADC TV Collection. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSPqhHuJOM
Some more wiped programmes. (It's not really much of a 'hiatus' this, is it?)
ATV Schools, this.... Believe It or Not, the edition is actually called 'Are We Free' (rather than 'Our Freedom'), originally shown on 24/01/1978, here from a 1980 rebroadcast, ex-N1700:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W3bVjhFVN0
and then 'Who Am I?', originally shown 10/01/1978, again from a 1980 rebroadcast:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbxB6eTw9tQ
Huge thanks again to the Vintage Schools TV youtube channel.
Oooh, and there's also this - 'Christianity - Roman Catholic and Baptist', from 09/02/1981:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwTout0eRao
And....another wiped ATV Schools programme....
The reason this is a discovery NOW is because it only got added to the tvbrain database in recent months as lost, so I had no idea it was gone.
AnyWaylonJennings, this is Stop Look Listen and the edition is called 'Baker' and it was originally shown on 02/12/1981.
Many thanks to the ADC TV Collection for the upload:- www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFxrhzaq-Mg
.... and here's the other missing episode from the early 80s run of Stop Look Listen.
This one is called 'Big Store' and it was originally broadcast on 01/12/1982. This is from a 1986 rebroadcast. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a1AMNY04wY
IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME....
DAVID FROST'S MOON PARTY ALERT!!!!!
Something is better than nothing....
'Man on the Moon' (colloquially best known as 'David Frost's Moon Party', which explains the show's format a darn sight better than the bland eventual title....) was ITV's rival to the BBC's Apollo 11 coverage.
The human race's finest technical achievement, all interspersed with live performances by the likes of Engelbert and Cliff.
It was almost unanimously panned as the critics derided the fact that light entertainment would be paired with something as important as humans getting to the Moon.
And, lo.... it disappeared. No trace remained, unlike the footsteps of Neil'n'Buzz on the satellite.
Despite all this - or maybe because of it - the programme was voted 53rd in the list of Most Wanted Lost TV Shows.... and I am delighted to report that a tiddly bit of off-air audio and 8mm film of the programme does exist. It's been hiding in plain sight for many a year....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYOKUx-shc
And that's it for now.
For those people who've actually read all of this, well done, you can buy that copy of War and Peace now, knowing you're safe that you have better concentration than dried soup. And I don't even know what that means.
The more eagle-eyed and sharper-brained amongst you may notice that this thread is almost written in a diary format, and that's because it almost is. So I'm just listing the discoveries of the previous months with the comments I wrote at the time.
