Kinks sixties live footage auction

[iwest]

This lot is for auction next month:

www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/omega-auctions/catalogue-id-srom10299/lot-fa19ef64-b8d6-4b6f-9df5-b0a50104cd38

Appears to be early sixties Kinks live footage, amateur rather than from television as far as I can see. No audio apparently, so it's a game of guess the song(s) really.

The auctioneer wants people to contact them directly for a sample clip, but since I've done that already it seems a waste of their time having to deal with dozens of others asking for the same thing. So in the interests of common sense I've uploaded it instead. The sample footage is just under a minute so I guess constitutes half of what's on the reel roughly. It also looks like the sample clip has been filmed from a wall-projected image by someone not terribly interested in holding the camera steady, so it's possible that the quality of what's on the reel itself is somewhat better.

youtu.be/NFoK77k7uzY

Anyway is this something already in circulation? I'm no Kinks expert.

[ajsmith]

Oct 31, 2023 9:14:40 GMT iwest said:

This lot is for auction next month:

www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/omega-auctions/catalogue-id-srom10299/lot-fa19ef64-b8d6-4b6f-9df5-b0a50104cd38

Appears to be early sixties Kinks live footage, amateur rather than from television as far as I can see. No audio apparently, so it's a game of guess the song(s) really.

The auctioneer wants people to contact them directly for a sample clip, but since I've done that already it seems a waste of their time having to deal with dozens of others asking for the same thing. So in the interests of common sense I've uploaded it instead. The sample footage is just under a minute so I guess constitutes half of what's on the reel roughly. It also looks like the sample clip has been filmed from a wall-projected image by someone not terribly interested in holding the camera steady, so it's possible that the quality of what's on the reel itself is somewhat better.

youtu.be/NFoK77k7uzY

Anyway is this something already in circulation? I'm no Kinks expert.

This looks like the Hollywood Bowl silent footage, I started a thread on someone who found a copy of it (and posted his own video with an except of it) a little while back here:

missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/14044/kinks-hollywood-bowl-silent-footage

Apparently (according to Kinks expert Doug Hinman who I contacted about this footage) this silent film was actually sold commercially at the time (ie in 1965) in the US by some smalltime company as an 8mm film for home projection and so is not a unique item. That said the full clip doesn't appear to be available online anywhere at the moment.

[iwest]

Oct 31, 2023 15:39:44 GMT ajsmith said:

Oct 31, 2023 9:14:40 GMT iwest said:

This looks like the Hollywood Bowl silent footage, I started a thread on someone who found a copy of it (and posted his own video with an except of it) a little while back here:

missingepisodes.proboards.com/thread/14044/kinks-hollywood-bowl-silent-footage

Apparently (according to Kinks expert Doug Hinman who I contacted about this footage) this silent film was actually sold commercially at the time (ie in 1965) in the US by some smalltime company as an 8mm film for home projection and so is not a unique item. That said the full clip doesn't appear to be available online anywhere at the moment.

Aha I didn't see that thread of yours at the time, but yep that's definitely the same footage. Wouldn't surprise me to find it's also the same copy that's shown in the youtube video either (the label on the can is identical), although if it really was sold commercially at the time then I guess it could also be someone else's copy. Although would people really have paid money back then to watch a silent film of a concert? Seems like it would've been a rather niche product to market... Anyway I guess if someone wants a copy of the full thing then this is their chance.

[richardwoods]

I wonder if an audio exists anywhere of the same concert that could be synched up?