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Post by andyparting on Sept 22, 2023 20:01:45 GMT
Saw this in DWM recently. Anybody know if this bootleg was 3 parts or 4 please? Attachments:
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Post by George D on Sept 22, 2023 20:08:10 GMT
Id bet it was the first 3 parts. By the early 1980s, it was very clear 10p4 was missing. Fandom started circulating multi generation copies of what existed. Even if one wanted to believe there was a 10p4, to get to a 4th or 5th generation copy would include a significant circulation. Also, if there was a 10p4, do you not think someone in dwm would have picked up on it at the time?  Nothing here.. time to move on... |
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Post by andyparting on Sept 22, 2023 20:45:29 GMT
Ok thanks, George, so there definately was a 3 part TP VHS bootleg knocking about in the UK in the 80s? If so, this is likely what the guy had. But without contacting him, we can't prove he didn't see a 4 part version that might have eluded fandom at the time?
Had it been a 4 parter, word might not have reached the UK if the owner of the tape and the seller of it weren't aware of the missing ep? What if the ep 4 that mysteriously left the BBC post-Blue Peter did end up on a vhs copy somehow?
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Post by Ronnie McDevitt on Sept 22, 2023 20:54:35 GMT
Ok thanks, George, so there definately was a 3 part TP VHS bootleg knocking about in the UK in the 80s? There were bootleg copies of all the existing episodes in the UK from at least the mid 1980s. |
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Post by tom rogers on Sept 22, 2023 21:17:17 GMT
Yup, it was a n-th generation bootleg of parts 1-3. I still have my copy which I obtained circa 1987/88. Very snowy/muddy but (still) watchable. Got mine from a friend in the Toronto area.
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Post by George D on Sept 22, 2023 22:27:11 GMT
If you're interested in my vhs snowy camera copy of 10p, I'll make a good deal for you:)
You can imagine what's on it;)
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Post by andyparting on Sept 23, 2023 7:28:56 GMT
Yup, it was a n-th generation bootleg of parts 1-3. I still have my copy which I obtained circa 1987/88. Very snowy/muddy but (still) watchable. Got mine from a friend in the Toronto area. Ok, thanks for the confirmation, Tom. I had half a mind to get onto the mail department of DWM, to contact the guy! |
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Post by andyparting on Sept 23, 2023 7:31:07 GMT
If you're interested in my vhs snowy camera copy of 10p, I'll make a good deal for you:) You can imagine what's on it;) Ok - 5 pence for it? |
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Post by andyparting on Sept 23, 2023 7:38:17 GMT
Ok thanks, George, so there definately was a 3 part TP VHS bootleg knocking about in the UK in the 80s? There were bootleg copies of all the existing episodes in the UK from at least the mid 1980s. Thanks also, Ronnie. Closure on the matter, then. |
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Post by ajsmith on Sept 23, 2023 8:39:10 GMT
The DVD version also suffers from this snow effect, mainly in the exterior shots of south pole. Hoping this can be fixed for the season 4 Blu Ray.
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Post by josephsenior on Oct 1, 2023 18:51:01 GMT
Yup, it was a n-th generation bootleg of parts 1-3. I still have my copy which I obtained circa 1987/88. Very snowy/muddy but (still) watchable. Got mine from a friend in the Toronto area. Ok, thanks for the confirmation, Tom. I had half a mind to get onto the mail department of DWM, to contact the guy! Do not contact the DWM to get in contact with a random fan who shares memories of a missing episode. It is pointless. DWM will not disclose how to contact them as they are under GDPR and probably do not have contact details for those people are their submissions do not require contact details for the author. |
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Post by Angel Amezquita (Angelgreat) on Oct 1, 2023 20:22:47 GMT
I'd imagine the 5th gen vhs copy would look something similar, if not worse, than this. The footage shows second and third gen copies of Classic DW, but you get the idea. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLiN1riwmCM |
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Post by Richard Molesworth on Oct 1, 2023 22:35:23 GMT
Jason's a good mate of mine. I can assure you that he only had saw a bootleg VHS of eps 1-3 in Canada in 1989.
Regards,
Richard
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Post by tom rogers on Oct 2, 2023 1:59:15 GMT
To be clear, I have no idea where the copy my friend sent to me came from. I didn’t ask and he didn’t offer. He was a college chum who ended up in the Toronto area and who shared an interest in all things Who.
Despite the terrible picture and sound, and the lack of episode 4, it was riveting to watch at the time. Strangely, the cover “art” to the case it came in is labeled 10P but shows Tom Baker’s face.
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Post by David Gillespie on Oct 2, 2023 12:39:59 GMT
I'd imagine the 5th gen vhs copy would look something similar, if not worse, than this. The footage shows second and third gen copies of Classic DW, but you get the idea. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLiN1riwmCMThis video is made up of example of what BBC Video was putting out on VHS in the 90s so these are high up the generations. Compared to some of the bootlegs I had, these are excellent condition. |
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