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Post by andyparting on Sept 16, 2023 16:04:57 GMT
Is it possible?
Can 16mm from the original camera negative extend to this format?
If 16mm is stretching things a bit, then could the A/B roll negative be transferred onto 35mm? - as happened with the Inspector Morse restoration a few years back, transferring the 16mm camera negative onto 35mm to increase the pixel quality, so I was told.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Sept 16, 2023 18:41:38 GMT
I can't see how optically transferring a 16mm negative to a 35mm negative would increase pixel quality - unless the digital scanner was limited to the resolution it could detect. Which may have been an issue years back - but they are already scanning B&W 16mm to 4K.
Am I missing something?
I'd think there'd be minor improvements - possibly more to do with the compression schemes than anything else.
Though with nothing missing, this is probably more of an "Out of the Archive" thing really.
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Post by billardery on Sept 20, 2023 0:27:48 GMT
Viewing digitized 16mm films in 4K is just diminishing returns IMO. You get a bit more detail, but it's mostly placebo quality. The grain of the film becomes your limiting factor instead of the pixel count. Unless you have your face right up against the screen, it's hard to tell the difference -- especially if your source is compressed and your TV is scaling the image.
Scanning and mastering 16mm film in 4K is a different matter. The extra resolution means that artifacts of digital image processing are less pronounced, especially when the 4K master is downscaled to 1080 or 1440 for distribution.
As for making a 35mm dupe and scanning it in 4K, there's no need. Optical enlargement won't reveal much of anything that a high-resolution scan of the 16mm film wouldn't already.
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Post by garygraham on Sept 20, 2023 6:06:23 GMT
Is it possible? Can 16mm from the original camera negative extend to this format? If 16mm is stretching things a bit, then could the A/B roll negative be transferred onto 35mm? - as happened with the Inspector Morse restoration a few years back, transferring the 16mm camera negative onto 35mm to increase the pixel quality, so I was told. A/B roll negative will be the original camera negative. Transferring to 35mm then scanning that rather than scanning the original 16mm negative would reduce the quality not increase it. |
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Post by jamesvincent on Sept 20, 2023 16:12:50 GMT
The max res you can get from 16mm is about 1400 x 2490. So there could be some room for improvement, but if you'd notice it is another matter.
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Post by brianfretwell on Sept 25, 2023 8:15:06 GMT
The only benefit would be if it was an HDR scan/encode. Not much increase in detail but more dynamic range. I have seen in film reveiws that possibly "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", which was shot on 16mm, has had a 4K release..
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