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Post by Steve Hamilton on Dec 7, 2017 20:25:55 GMT
OK, so we don't really like the idea of remakes, what about new filmed stories with older Doctors? I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. Or what about the Doctor meeting up with an older Steven Taylor on the planet of the Savages? A large number of fans do enjoy the Big Finish productions on audio.
There are two main problems with this idea. Firstly, is there a market for such things? Maybe as online or DVD only releases for the fan market? Secondly, the BBC has never been keen on producing or showing 'out of Doctor' episodes in the past. Would they even consider it now? Then of course there are all kinds of continuity problems to face....................!
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Post by lousingh on Dec 7, 2017 20:55:13 GMT
OK, so we don't really like the idea of remakes, what about new filmed stories with older Doctors? I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. Or what about the Doctor meeting up with an older Steven Taylor on the planet of the Savages? A large number of fans do enjoy the Big Finish productions on audio. There are two main problems with this idea. Firstly, is there a market for such things? Maybe as online or DVD only releases for the fan market? Secondly, the BBC has never been keen on producing or showing 'out of Doctor' episodes in the past. Would they even consider it now? Then of course there are all kinds of continuity problems to face....................! Funny - I watched "The Dalek Invasion of Earth" and "The Savages" a few weeks ago and was wondering the same thing. I take that none of the books ever dealt with these issues.
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Post by smccandless on Dec 8, 2017 1:19:39 GMT
An option could be making virtual reality reconstructions of missing episodes. All the actors would be on screen saying their lines even though sadly some of them are no longer with us. This endeavour would need the audios, the scripts and possibly memories from surviving cast and crew of how episodes panned out.
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Post by cjones on Dec 8, 2017 2:34:06 GMT
I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. I think quite a few of us have had that idea; Twelve (or, now, Thirteen) meets Susan and finds she is a Time Lady or similar. But somehow, I feel that with the departure of Moffat, that ship has already sailed.
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Post by johnm on Dec 8, 2017 16:14:51 GMT
I'm satisfied with the original audio recordings married to the tele-snaps. The presentation may be too static for some, but it's the closest we can get to the true feel of the '60's stories. I fear that remaking the stories will introduce a modern feel to them and thus negate any point of remaking them in the first place.
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Post by bevanthomas on Dec 8, 2017 20:29:34 GMT
johnm is wise. Such a good answer and, of course, you absolutely right, johnm.
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Post by Robert Lia on Dec 8, 2017 21:29:47 GMT
Tlesnaps, Recons or animations are the best way to get a 1960's feel. If we remake it today it will be a sanitized 21st century version that wont appeal to any one
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Post by Tony Ingram on Dec 13, 2017 21:13:49 GMT
OK, so we don't really like the idea of remakes, what about new filmed stories with older Doctors? I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. I would hate that, just as I hate the fact that they are recasting the first Doctor at Christmas, that Big Finish are doing it, and that it was done in 1983. I'm sorry, but I just see it as disrespectful to the original actors. Those three men are NOT replaceable.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 14, 2017 10:25:54 GMT
The Feast of Stephen would be a good choice for a remake. Stand alone, quirky episode with little visual stuff remaining. On balance, why not?
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Post by Richard Tipple on Dec 14, 2017 11:51:24 GMT
OK, so we don't really like the idea of remakes, what about new filmed stories with older Doctors? I'm thinking here maybe the recast first Doctor finally gets back to meet a much older Susan who has long outlived her husband David Campbell and now must face regeneration herself. I would hate that, just as I hate the fact that they are recasting the first Doctor at Christmas, that Big Finish are doing it, and that it was done in 1983. I'm sorry, but I just see it as disrespectful to the original actors. Those three men are NOT replaceable. Hate is a very strong emotion. I'm sorry you're wrestling with it. I'm a huge Hartnell-era fan and I LOVE the fact the First Doctor is coming back. In no way can Bradley replace Hartnell in the role, but for me it's a lovely way to pay homage to a wonderful era of the shows past. An era that's lost in time, but not forgotten. I actually think Hartnell would have been rather pleased to think his portrayal was so strong that they're reprising his character for a Christmas special over fifty years since he left the role. But of course you are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I'll be watching it with a huge smile on my face, loving the fact that I get to see my favourite show on Christmas day! And my favourite Doctor again! What a treat. As for the restaging of missing episodes - it's not really worth worrying about. The costs involved would be so astronomical I highly doubt it'll ever be any more than a fantasy. I film/edit and produce budgets for production work as part of my day job - restaging would easily eclipse the cost of animation. I can't fathom how they'd manage it without a huge amount of favours and people working for free! A shame because personally, if it was shot in the same style, with the same pacing, I'd be all for it. I'm also a completest so having a DVD of a restaged DMP or Celestial Toymaker would be rather wonderful.
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Post by Greg H on Dec 14, 2017 20:58:06 GMT
The Feast of Stephen would be a good choice for a remake. Stand alone, quirky episode with little visual stuff remaining. On balance, why not? Not a bad idea actually.
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Post by Robert Lia on Dec 15, 2017 0:27:52 GMT
Ive slowly warmed to the idea of some recasting to make a deceased actors' character available. I understand why it was done for "The Five Doctors". If the BBC or Big Finish can find actors who sound reasonably like the original I can support it. Frazier Hines does a very good second Doctor. No disrespect to William Russell and Peter Purvis but I was not convinced by there attempt to do the first Doctors lines.
I have not yet herd Elliot Chapmen as Ben Jackson yet or Tim Treloar as the Third Doctor yet so I cant comment on them (OK I did here a brief bit in "The Light at the End of the Tunnel" but it was not enough to form a proper opinion of his performance.
Unless I am mistaken Ben and Polly both appear in the up coming Christmas Special?
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Post by John W King on Dec 16, 2017 3:00:17 GMT
If you actually watched the famous Feast of Stephen as I did it was in my opinion nowhere near as good as many people think. So Often this episode is taken out of context as an individual episode. Understandably as it bore little relation to the episodes either side. As I watched it I found it confusing and silly. Everyone seemed to be out of character and not taking it seriously. I know it was meant to a joke, a bit of fun but it wasn't really. I'm sure if the episode is ever recovered it may prove to be a huge disappointment. Alas you actually had to have seen to understand why. One day I hope to be proved wrong.
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Post by Mike Biggs on Dec 16, 2017 7:37:30 GMT
If you actually watched the famous Feast of Stephen as I did it was in my opinion nowhere near as good as many people think. So Often this episode is taken out of context as an individual episode. Understandably as it bore little relation to the episodes either side. As I watched it I found it confusing and silly. Everyone seemed to be out of character and not taking it seriously. I know it was meant to a joke, a bit of fun but it wasn't really. I'm sure if the episode is ever recovered it may prove to be a huge disappointment. Alas you actually had to have seen to understand why. One day I hope to be proved wrong. I doubt I'd consider it to be a particularly good episode, but I'd welcome it back as I would any missing Doctor Who. You're talking about the episode in it's original context, but for those of us who weren't around then, we can never see it in that context. I think it's like Henry Fonda's role in Once Upon A Time in the West. He guns down an entire family, something that would have shocked audiences at the time as he had a good guy image. For me, I knew who he was, but haven't seen that many of his films, so it didn't have the same impact. So I don't think that Feast of Stephen will be a disappointment for the same reasons that you would. Although if we had the luxury of all of DMP, a lot of people might end up skipping it when re-watching the serial.
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Post by richardwoods on Dec 17, 2017 19:46:46 GMT
The Feast of Stephen would be a good choice for a remake. Stand alone, quirky episode with little visual stuff remaining. On balance, why not? Not a bad idea actually. Well, they've got the Xmas message in the can 😀
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