Has Barbados and Uganda been checked?

[Sofia Fox]

I'm sorry if I'm asking a stupid question but I noticed that Barbados and Sierra Leone might hold the rest of the Hartnell episodes and Gibraltar and Uganda have the Troughton's. Gibraltar would've been checked and Sierra Leone's archive was destroyed in their civil war so I wondered about Barbados and Uganda, has it been checked and confirmed no episodes are there or is there something to uncover?

[Greg H]

Please understand that I don't have any insider info on this, but if these could be the final resting places of prints then they are likely going to have been or are on Phil Morris's archaeological odyssey. As I understand it, he will share all of the details after all of the searching has finished. So my guess is, he has checked them and we will get the details in due course.

[John Wall]

Wasn’t there something from PM to the effect that the TV station in Sierra Leone wasn’t destroyed?

[Sofia Fox]

I don't know about that, but it might be misremembered or something.

[Alex B]

Is it worth it to check in every station in Africa?

[Rob Moss]

Nov 13, 2017 20:03:05 GMT Alex B said:

Is it worth it to check in every station in Africa?

Nobody can possibly know that until it's been done.

[Michael Plowright]

My understanding is that Sierra Leone episode prints were returned to London in 1974 and that this had been confirmed by Phil Morris who had reviewed their records.

[martinjwills]

As can be seen from this link there was very little in Zimbabwe. So there would be very little to find.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/whoboughtwho_3458.html

and they were sent elsewhere after the showing.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/howmanyprints.html

shows how many prints and where they were sent to after the showings.

The movements have been well studied, and the searchers have been tracking down any possible locations, the search and suggestions is best left up to the people who know what they are doing.

[Jon Preddle]

And also covered in greater detail on BroaDWcast

[RWels]

Nov 17, 2017 14:00:23 GMT martinjwills said:

As can be seen from this link there was very little in Zimbabwe. So there would be very little to find.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/whoboughtwho_3458.html

and they were sent elsewhere after the showing.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/howmanyprints.html

shows how many prints and where they were sent to after the showings.

The movements have been well studied, and the searchers have been tracking down any possible locations, the search and suggestions is best left up to the people who know what they are doing.

Then again, wouldn't we have said the same of Nigeria? THEORETICALLY Zimbabwe could have 9 missing episodes, plus nonwho stuff.

I don't know how long broadwcast has been up, but before Phil Morris found them, was there any publicly known indication that the fate of those two serials' copies was unresolved? Was it suspected that there was a loose end?

[richardwoods]

I hope with the political situation in Zimbabwe, steps are being taken to secure Mr Mugabe's private video & film collection 😉

[rmackenziefehr]

Nov 20, 2017 20:28:05 GMT RWels said:

Nov 17, 2017 14:00:23 GMT martinjwills said:

As can be seen from this link there was very little in Zimbabwe. So there would be very little to find.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/whoboughtwho_3458.html

and they were sent elsewhere after the showing.

missingepisodes.blogspot.co.uk/p/howmanyprints.html

shows how many prints and where they were sent to after the showings.

The movements have been well studied, and the searchers have been tracking down any possible locations, the search and suggestions is best left up to the people who know what they are doing.

Then again, wouldn't we have said the same of Nigeria? THEORETICALLY Zimbabwe could have 9 missing episodes, plus nonwho stuff.

I don't know how long broadwcast has been up, but before Phil Morris found them, was there any publicly known indication that the fate of those two serials' copies was unresolved? Was it suspected that there was a loose end?

The earliest version of the Nigeria listing on the website was before those episodes were found (and before it was even clear who had aired them), and engages in no speculation on where the prints ended up:

web.archive.org/web/20110506064221/http://gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Nigeria

However, I don't think the Zimbabwe situation is comparable, given that we have documentary evidence that Zambia both received its prints from Zimbabwe and had their airing of the program affected by the delays in it airing in Zimbabwe- the Zimbabwe archives are certainly ones I'd want to check on the whole, but I would not anticipate finding any Who there.

[gbaker]

Nov 20, 2017 22:01:35 GMT richardwoods said:

I hope with the political situation in Zimbabwe, steps are being taken to secure Mr Mugabe's private video & film collection 😉

Probably a very long shot and really grasping at straws but - could any of the Zambia prints have found their way into Rhodesia in the 1970's (it is known that some Tom Baker episodes were smuggled in on VHS tape) ? However there does not seem to be any evidence that they were ever broadcast.  

[RWels]

Nov 20, 2017 22:31:22 GMT rmackenziefehr said:

Nov 20, 2017 20:28:05 GMT RWels said:

Then again, wouldn't we have said the same of Nigeria? THEORETICALLY Zimbabwe could have 9 missing episodes, plus nonwho stuff.

I don't know how long broadwcast has been up, but before Phil Morris found them, was there any publicly known indication that the fate of those two serials' copies was unresolved? Was it suspected that there was a loose end?

The earliest version of the Nigeria listing on the website was before those episodes were found (and before it was even clear who had aired them), and engages in no speculation on where the prints ended up:

web.archive.org/web/20110506064221/http://gallifreybase.com/w/index.php/Nigeria

However, I don't think the Zimbabwe situation is comparable, given that we have documentary evidence that Zambia both received its prints from Zimbabwe and had their airing of the program affected by the delays in it airing in Zimbabwe- the Zimbabwe archives are certainly ones I'd want to check on the whole, but I would not anticipate finding any Who there.

Based on that overview there, there might have been two other Troughton serials there as well, containing 9 other missing episodes!

[Richard Marple]

Looking at BroaDWcast I wonder what else was screen in Rhodesia from off-air recordings.

I've heard of similar things happening in South Africa, & pirate stations in Italy.