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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 27, 2016 22:08:19 GMT
Hi Mark,
Sorry to hear that "The Rave" pilot has definitely been wiped and as you say it would be nice if some behind the scenes photos or publicity shots were in existence somewhere?
Thanks for the snippet from an (as yet unidentified music paper) I have had a quick look through my NME's and Disc and Music Echo's but can't find anything yet, but I'll have a more detailed look tomorrow. Likewise I'll try and confirm if The Move sang "Night of Fear"
I'm sure I've looked through my TV Times dvd for this show? but I'll try again tomorrow. Another option would be for me to look through old newspapers at the library in Edinburgh.
I think you're suggestion that Granada may have broadcast the pilot as a last-minute replacement sounds very plausible, due to the unpredictability of transmission schedules in the 60's. Your other suggestion is a good one as well.
Keep searching and good luck.
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 28, 2016 12:24:05 GMT
Hello again Mark,
I don't think it was the NME as I've had a good look at them and there is no mention of the pilot show.
I don't know if it was The Disc and Music Echo?... as (unfortunately, I do not have an issue for the actual week or slightly before; I do have the 18th March '67 but no mention there. Unfortunately 1967 issues of The Disc and Music Echo are like looking for Hen's teeth!
Might be The Melody Maker? or Record Mirror? of which I do not have any for 1967.
I do have mentions of the pilot show within the book (Embryo a Pink Floyd Chronology) and (Glen Poveys' recent book.) (But both books do not have much info apart from "Arnold Layne" being shown briefly.
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Post by markdixon on Nov 28, 2016 19:56:49 GMT
Hi William. Thanks for looking through your music papers and books for me.
I think "The Rave" will always remain a bit of a mystery. It's hard to get a sense of the style and tone of the show. Was the studio decked out like a psychedelic nightclub? Were the Move good at hosting the show? We'll probably never know.
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 28, 2016 21:11:35 GMT
Eureka! I found this article in a MOVE music paper compilation dvd it's from the Record Mirror dated the 4th March 1967...It mentions the RAVE pilot TV show...
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Post by markg on Nov 28, 2016 22:13:07 GMT
Nick Mason proved to be Pink Floyd's archivist, so you never know..
Roy Wood is on my Twitter feed a fair bit, I should ask him..
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 29, 2016 8:05:01 GMT
Eureka! I found this article in a MOVE music paper compilation dvd it's from the Record Mirror dated the 4th March 1967...It mentions the RAVE pilot TV show... Regarding the extra snippet of info in that cutting - that the BBC are currently filming a 30 minute Move pilot show - there's nothing in their BBC artist file about that, either a contract or any correspondence unless I missed it (pretty sure I didn't). Don't doubt that The Rave was broadcast on Granada but when people like Secunda work for a band it's not always easy separating the er.. truth from the vividly imagined so to speak.
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Post by Stephen John Connett on Nov 29, 2016 12:12:43 GMT
Although not quite the same subject but in the same ball park, I have been trying to find if there was any footage/stills of the'million volt light and sound rave' also staged in 1967. This was of course the event where the Beatles infamous Carnival of light track was played. Incredibly there doesn't seem to be any footage or stills from this whatsoever
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Post by williammcgregor on Nov 29, 2016 14:38:31 GMT
The following clippings are posted here on behalf of Ashley Wood... Unfortunately there is no sign of the Rave pilot show in this TV schedule from The Guardian newspaper...
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Post by ashleywood on Nov 29, 2016 14:58:11 GMT
Thanks William. Your image-posting brain beats mine. Yep, as he says no sign of The Rave on the clipping from the Guardian TV schedule for March 6th 1967. As I mentioned, there doesn't appear to be anything in The Move bbc file about a 30 minute pilot alluded to in the clippings - at a guess I can imagine Secunda made that up, possibly to try and push Granada into going ahead with The Rave ??
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Post by markdixon on Nov 29, 2016 20:56:58 GMT
I'm interested in the report that "The Rave" was due to be broadcast live on 06 March 1967. Previously I'd assumed it had been recorded on that date and that it would have needed a few days of post-production before it was ready for broadcast.
I'm beginning to think that it was broadcast live on Granada at 10.05 that night as a special edition of "Scene". You might remember the letter that I quoted from the "TV Times" earlier in this thread.
Scene of Success
Granada should be congratulated for showing the daring experiment which made up “Scene” on March 6.
By combining things which are already in existence – free pop music, satire, psychedelic visuals, and the kind of condensed philosophy which made Bob Dylan, and now the LSD people notorious – something greater than any of these was created – something teeming with imagination – something which only TV can put over.
Tim Horrocks Leigh, Lancs
Originally I thought there was an error in this letter and the writer was referring to 'Scene Special: It's So Far Out It's Straight Down' which was broadcast on 07 March 1967. However, I can see now how the letter could easily be about "The Rave". The 'satire' and 'condensed philosophy' could have been provided by the Move through comic banter and stage theatrics.
It's worth noting that "Scene" had stopped being a traditional news/magazine programme by 1967. Many one-off programmes and short series were broadcast under the "Scene" banner. These included documentaries, discussion programmes and even a comedy revue show starring Kenneth Cope. Therefore, it's not impossible that for one night only "Scene" became the platform for an experimental pop show called "The Rave".
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 8, 2016 15:15:00 GMT
Thanks William. Your image-posting brain beats mine. Yep, as he says no sign of The Rave on the clipping from the Guardian TV schedule for March 6th 1967. As I mentioned, there doesn't appear to be anything in The Move bbc file about a 30 minute pilot alluded to in the clippings - at a guess I can imagine Secunda made that up, possibly to try and push Granada into going ahead with The Rave ?? Mention of Secunda reminds me to post a link to this, for any Move fans who haven't already seen it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFm__f_tVRI
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Post by ashleywood on Dec 8, 2016 15:43:21 GMT
Thanks Peter. Interesting, looks like it wasn't just The Rutles who took tea and biscuits.
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