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Post by ajsmith on Jun 16, 2016 16:00:26 GMT
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Post by ajsmith on Jun 16, 2016 16:28:49 GMT
Interesting to note at 1.35 in the second video that they seem to have made 4 early promo films for 'Out Of Our Heads' tracks at Twickenham Studios in July 1965.. 4 months before the Beatles first made similar promos films in the same studios.. the Beatles films still exist and the Stones don't seem to, obscuring the fact that the Stones got there first.
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Post by robertreinstein on Jun 16, 2016 17:42:02 GMT
Thought this was kind of interesting... a slideshow of all the MISSING Rolling Stones Tv appearances, with relevant songs and photos: watch it and weep! I'm weeping. |
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Post by Joe Haynes on Jun 16, 2016 18:41:16 GMT
Lots of missing ready steady go  I wonder if some of these actually survive in Dave Clarks collection? |
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Post by ajsmith on Jun 16, 2016 19:44:13 GMT
There were quite a few performances I wasn't aware of.. I didn't know they performed 2 Between The Buttons tracks 'Connection' and 'She Smiled Sweetly' on TV .. or that there was a 'Dandelion' promo .. there were a couple of interesting shows that showcased tracks from 'Rolling Stones No.2' as well.
Something that's notable about the Stones visual archive .. unlike The Beatles, Who, or Kinks, who were all filmed when they were playing small clubs, there is no pre-fame or even particularly early footage of them as a group. AFAIK the earliest surviving footage is the partial TOTP clip of 'Not Fade Away' which is not that early relatively.
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Post by richardwoods on Jun 16, 2016 19:50:51 GMT
No Super 8 from the Eel Pie Island days then, what a shame
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Post by ajsmith on Jun 16, 2016 20:28:30 GMT
No Super 8 from the Eel Pie Island days then, what a shame Well, you never know what will turn up. but AFAIK these is no known early super 8. Would love to be proved wrong though! |
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Post by John Green on Jun 16, 2016 20:42:34 GMT
Just for a second,I read this as "Lost Rolling Stones appearances on Youtube"....
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Post by Jeff Lewis on Jun 16, 2016 22:43:26 GMT
Does anybody know what the estate of Allen Klein hold? Seemed to recall Andrew Loog Oldham sold him everything prior 1969 and it was his company who released 'Charlie is My Darling' and 'Rock and Roll Circus' not the Stones.
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Post by robertreinstein on Jun 16, 2016 23:04:16 GMT
Does anybody know what the estate of Allen Klein hold? Seemed to recall Andrew Loog Oldham sold him everything prior 1969 and it was his company who released 'Charlie is My Darling' and 'Rock and Roll Circus' not the Stones. They may have a ton of stuff, but it's odd that they haven't monetized it yet. |
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Post by robertreinstein on Jun 16, 2016 23:06:02 GMT
No Super 8 from the Eel Pie Island days then, what a shame Well, you never know what will turn up. but AFAIK these is no known early super 8. Would love to be proved wrong though! the earliest 8mm films I have are from 1964, though they may have been shot on 16mm then sold as 8mm. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 10:24:07 GMT
They appeared on The Arthur Haynes Show doing I Wanna Be Your Man, which predates Not Fade Away.
I wasn't aware they'd done 4 songs on Sunday Night At The London Palladium in 1967. That was the show when they refused to go on the revolving stage at the end. It's a shame that that footage seems to not exist, unless, of course, Bill Wyman has a copy, or Allen Klein's Estate.
Bill Wyman was once commended by Ringo Starr on having more footage and stuff on The Beatles than they had themselves.
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Post by ashleywood on Jun 17, 2016 15:35:08 GMT
The SNATLP audio from 1967 has been on bootleg for donkeys years Shelley.
No-one seems to know what ABKCO have audio and video wise and trying to get any info from them or offer friendly suggestions (a BBC sessions set with Bill Wyman's Radio Luxembourg acetate for example) appears to be a waste of time.
Given that the Stones catalogue is probably only 2nd to The Beatles in terms of UK historical band interest it's a mystery why ABKCO don't get off of their clouds and do something about it. Second only to Apple in terms of How To Do Nothing About A Major Band's Recording History.
Apple sell cuff links and expensive pens to celebrate The Beatles music.
Either Macca etc and Jagger etc.. are blocking major archival projects or their companies are completely clueless.
Even looking at what we know exists it would take 5 minutes to compile a seriously excellent archival series for both bands on paper. The Beatles Anthology sets desperately need a quality overhaul.
How sad is that when you compare that to what Bob Dylan and The Beach Boys archive teams do and they are far more limited interest artists in many ways ?
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Post by Richard Marple on Jun 17, 2016 17:00:00 GMT
My Dad has often mentioned how ABKCO blocked the release of the Cameo Parkway back catalogue for years even though it was obvious there was a market for CD reissues.
It seems this mentality has been allowed to persist.
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Post by John Green on Jun 17, 2016 19:36:56 GMT
How sad is that when you compare that to what Bob Dylan and The Beach Boys archive teams do and they are far more limited interest artists in many ways ? Well...numerically,in terms of fans,I'll grant you,in Dylan's case! |
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I wonder if some of these actually survive in Dave Clarks collection?
