I am very glad you started this thread, an important man indeed. Both the BBC and the BFI agree, of the 96 filmographic records the bfi have for Philip Donnellan, the bfi have 72 holdings against the titles he made for the bbc... let me know if you would like me to list those 72 holdings and indeed, those 24 they have no holdings for...
Post by Stephen Byers on Apr 26, 2015 20:39:03 GMT
I think lists would be good. Then those films that are missing can - maybe - be tracked down. And we will know what does exist.
It seems that in 2012 the hosting ISP mediacontentlab.co.uk went out-of-business taking Donnellan's website with it. Luckily Archive.org captured it - and WebWhacker (or some other app.) could download the site reasonably complete.
Interestingly the domain www.philipdonnellan.co.uk still belongs to Birmingham University. It is registered to them to 2016. Quite why they let the website get deleted is a moot point.
Meanwhile the response from Professor Long was:
"On 20/04/2015, Paul Long <Paul.Long@bcu.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi all - we have administered (and funded) the site at BCU for several years > but there was a domain issues that arose last year that I was unable to > address. > > We have some money at the moment that will aid work on PD and I hope to > re-jig an online presence (there is a Wordpress site which migrated from > Posterous). > > If there is milage in hooking up with CPA, Birmingham Archives do let me > know. > > Paul Long > Professor of Media and Cultural History > Director, Birmingham Centre for Media and Cultural Research > > Room M.344 > Birmingham Centre for Media and Cultural Research > Birmingham School of Media > Birmingham City University > Curzon Street > Birmingham > B4 7XG > > tel: 0121-331-5468
as per your post above, 'lists would be good, so we know what is Missing or not. I will list the 24 filmographic records at the bfi...that they do not have holdings for...nb, although the bfi doesn't have have holdings for these 24, this is not to say that the BBC doesn't have them. Some-one would need to ask the BBC if they hold them or not, before we could fully they are Missing or not?
1. The Proud African A Portrait of Nkrumah of Ghana 4/6/63 2. John Maddin Architect 25/4/65 Part Of: Six Men 3. Sir Alfred Owen Industrialist 2/5/65 ditto 4. Brian Walden Member Of Parliament 9/5/65 ditto 5. Frank Owens Newspaper Editor 16/5/65 ditto 6. Sydney Dunn Bishop 23/5/65 ditto 7. The Enclosed World of the Blind 29/9/67 Part of: Bd8 8. Where Do I Stand? [23/6/71] 9. Passage West - The Awakening 1975 National Film Board of Canada 10. The Good Old Way 4/7/83 Part Of: Good Old Way 11. Telecommunications Workers at Gec. Coventry 10/5/82 Part of: Moment To Talk 12. Underground and Surface Workers at Hem Heath Colliery, Stoke-On-Trent 17/5/82 ditto 13. Heavy Vehicle Builders at ERF, Sandbach, Cheshire 24/5/82 ditto 14. Unemployed Building Workers in Liverpool 28/5/82 ditto 15. Tobacco Workers at Wills No 2 Factory, Bristol 7/6/82 ditto 16. Engineering Workers on Strike at Laurence Scott, Manchester 14/6/82 ditto 17. The Good Old Way 13/6/83 Part OF:Good Old Way BBC Bristol 18. The Good Old Way 20/6/83 ditto 19. The Good Old Way 28/6/83 ditto 20. The Good Old Way 4/7/83 ditto 21. Unemployed Car Workers from the De Lorean Factory in West Belfast 30/8/83 ditto 22. Dismissed Workers from LeFray Toys, Aberbeeg, South Wales 22/7/84 ditto 23. Production Workers, Peak Frean Biscuits, Bermondsey, London 12/8/84 24. The Beauty Queens 1988 Forum Television Part of: Outside Chance.
Coming up next, are the 72 at the bfi with holdings.. 1. Joe The Chainsmith 7/11/58. 2. The Steel Goddess 10/11/59. 3. The White Country 10/6/60. 4. Coventry Kids 15//11/60. 5. Men Of Corby 5/9/61. 6. Sunderland Oak 19/9/61. 7. Nehru-Man of Two Worlds 27/2/62. 8. T.E.Lawrence 1888-1935 27/11/62. 9. The Long Journey 7/4/64. 10.The Colony 16/6/64. 11. Danetree Hospital 13/12/64 Part of: Landmarks. 12. The School 20/12/64 ditto. 13. The Factory 27/12/64 ditto.14.The Fortress 3/1/65 ditto. 15. House of Friends 10/1/65 ditto. The Last Refuge 17/1/65 ditto. 18. The Irishmen An Impression of Exile 1965. 19. Harry Watton Alderman 30/5/65 Part of: Six Men. 20. The Staffordshire Rebels 8/1/66 First screen appearances for Ben Kingsley and Robert Powell. 21. The Abbey of The English 27/12/66. 22. The Independence of the Blind 28/9/67 Part of: Bd8. 23. Death of A Miner 27/10/68. 24. Where Do We Go From Here? 1/4/69. 25. Seaways: 23/9/69 Part of: Tuesday's Documentary. 26. Strangers in a Town 9/12/69 ditto. 27. Where Do I Stand? 9/6/71 Part of: Where Do I Stand?. 28. Where Do I Stand? 16/6/71 ditto. 29. Where Do I Stand? 30/6/71 ditto. 30. Where Do I Stand? 7/7/71 ditto. 31. Before The Mast 4/12/71. 32. The Fisherman Remembers 1972. 33. The Shoals of Herring 15/9/72. 34. The Fight Game 11/6/73. 35. The Fight for Shelton Bar 1974. 36. The Dream of Freedom 3/9/75 Part of: Passage West BBC Birmingham. 37. The Awakening 10/9/75 ditto. 38. Art - To a Degree 11/11/76 Part of: Omnibus. 39. Half a Smile from Stoke(item) 21/4/77 ditto. 40. Pure Radio 3/11/77 ditto. 41. Only Yesterday 1978. 42. City on the Border 30/5/78. 43. The Pilgrimage of Ti-jean 30/8/78 Part of: Omnibus. 44. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80. 45. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80 Part 2 The Citizen Soldiers Part of: Gone For A Soldier. 46. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80 Part 1 The Professionals . ditto. 47. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80. 48. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80 Part 2 The Citizen Soldiers ditto. 49. Gone For A Soldier 9/3/80 Part 1 The Professionals. ditto. 50. Stories and Songs of a Scots Family Group 24/9/80.51. The Other Music 27/10/81. 52. Too Much Reality? 21/1/82. 53. Women Production Workers, Brays Engineering, Leeds 11/7/83 Part of: Moment To Talk. 54. Firemen in White Watch, Ascot Drive Fire Station, Derby 18/7/83 ditto. 55. Shipyard Blacksmiths at Sunderland Shipbuilders 25/7/83 ditto. 56. Tele-ad Salesgirls, 'express and Star', Wolverhampton 1/8/83 ditto. 57. Agricultural Workers from Farms around Northleach, Gloucestershire 8/8/83 ditto. 58. Unemployed Asian Workers in Bradford 15/8/83 ditto. 59. Musicians in the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra 22/8/83 ditto. 60. Professional Footballers, Stoke City Football Club 24/6/83 ditto. 61. Staff and Supporters Occupying Thornton View Hospital, Bradford 1/7/84 ditto. 62. Blind and Disabled Workers, Scottish Baille Press, Edinburgh 8/7/84 ditto. 63. Hgv Transport Drivers, Northampton 5/8/84 ditto. 64. Yts Trainees, Tyne North Engineering Centre, Wallsend 19/8/84 ditto. 65. Night-shift Workers, Kestrel Marine, Dundee 26/8/84 ditto. 66. Television Viewers, Staffordshire 2/9/84 ditto. 67.Redudndant Trawlermen, Hull 9/9/84 ditto. 68. A New Tree in Tolpuddle 1985 Forum Television. 69. What Is Justice? 13/1/88 Forum Television Part of: Before The Law. 70. The Queen's Peace 20/1/88 ditto. 71. A Taste Of Prison 271/88 ditto. 72. No Place For Punishment? 3/2/88 ditto. The duplication for Gone For A Soldier is exactly how they are listed at the bfi..
Here are another couple of credits from Radio Times:
We Make ‘Em Proud (BBC TX 5 May 1953) History of the Worcestershire Regiment shot at Norton Barracks. (Probably an OB).
Home Town: Warwick (BBC TX 10 August 1956) Outside broadcast and film cameras visit the historic town of Warwick.
I'm sure there were lots more Midland only programmes as well in those early years. Donnellan was a film director making his material far more likely to exist now. He also kept extensive amounts of trims that have been deposited in various archives. I would hope that those films not held by the BFI are at the BBC. If they don't there's one more to strike from the list because MACE holds a print of Six Men: Sir Alfred Owen. Donnellan was producer on this and didn't direct it. Also Six Men: John Madin exists in private hands (BFI have a typo for that title as it's Madin and not Maddin).