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Post by Jeff Leach on Feb 5, 2015 15:08:34 GMT
Just a quick heads up - Dave Clark is appearing on The Steve Wright show (can't stand the guy but will persevere) this afternoon supposedly discussing his plans for the Ready steady go archive he holds and apparently detailing the UK release of his recent PBS documentary.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Feb 5, 2015 15:14:59 GMT
why can't you stand the guy ?
do you know him ?
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Post by Jeff Leach on Feb 5, 2015 15:58:04 GMT
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Post by Alan Turrell on Feb 6, 2015 8:35:13 GMT
Agree with you about steve wright but i wouldn't say i don't like Dave Clark although it does annoy me that he won't come out and tell us excatly what he has or hasn't got of RSG.
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Post by Jeff Leach on Feb 6, 2015 12:34:06 GMT
It's a strange one with Dave Clark
on interviews he comes across as a n ok guy and seems proud of their place in rock history.
Yet he's bloody awkward with his behaviour regarding the archive material he owns.
that said he may be changing his views in light of the documentary.
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Feb 6, 2015 17:07:36 GMT
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Post by John Green on Feb 6, 2015 17:28:00 GMT
BBC2 Saturday 14th Feb. 10:00 p.m. |
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Post by garyich on Feb 7, 2015 16:49:28 GMT
I listened to the interview but there is no discussion of the RSG archive. Dave seems to suggest that there are clips from RSG in the Dave Clark 5 documentary that will be shown next week. Nothing else unfortunately.
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Feb 8, 2015 3:28:53 GMT
I did buy the documentary last year from the US and there is a few short clips from RSG. A pity Steve Wright didn't ask why DC5 are the only major selling act from the 60's whose back catalogue isn't available on CD?
One thing that does comes out of the documentary is how ahead of his time DC was in the business sense of the music industry. Paul McCartney must be kicking himself he couldn't take the same approach at the time.
The documentary is more about Dave Clark than DC5 but it is worth watching and will open up a few discussions about him, I'm sure.
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Post by Richard Marple on Feb 8, 2015 10:31:26 GMT
Almost the back catalogue owned by Allen Klein wasn't available on CD for years.
Dad considered was crazy not to reissue it, as there were plenty of babyboomers willing to buy it.
Most of the first CDs my Dad bought were compilations of 1950s-60s acts.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Feb 8, 2015 12:19:23 GMT
A few years ago Dave Clark was interviewed by 'Record Collector' mag - around the time the last 'Greatest Hits' CD came out - and he seemed quite positive about re-issuing the DC5 back catalogue (in many cases a 'first' CD release for albums, while only mono versions of all the UK DC5 albums were ever released back in the sixties until the final album; 'If Somebody Loves You' in 1970, plus a Budget Starline compilation in 1971 and a 'Best of...' in 1972)
The recession that followed may then have then changed his mind about a full DC5 re-issue programme (tho' the 'Greatest Hits' CD did quite well I believe) and maybe there are business issues too (?) - we can only wait & see...
A guy writing in to 'Record Collector' some years back made a good suggestion re them doing remastered CDs including the mono and stereo versions of each of the UK albums with maybe the EP tracks as 'bonus' songs on each, plus a proper 'B' sides and 'Rarities' compilation as well....then a properly remastered series of the USA albums in decent sound (some American albums had rather 'dodgy' sound - one reason Dave Clark pulled everything off the market at one point)
The USA albums are of particular interest to UK collectors as they have many 'non UK' songs.
At present just a few 'Hits' CDs and the odd copy of Polydor's successful '25 Thumping Great Hits' mid seventies compilation turn up plus maybe the EMI Budget Starline (& MFP) 'Best of..' & 'Rock & Roll' compilations occasionally surface, otherwise the handful of original UK Columbia albums from 1964 to 1970 are quite rare (& expensive !)
- seldom can such a big selling sixties group (who, despite often negative even vitriolic publicity by the unpleasant British music press, did nevertheless outsell even the likes of The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks etc, in USA in the sixties clocking up some 20 or so USA and 22 UK charting singles to 1970) have been so utterly 'airbrushed out' of Popular Music history ! (mainly by Dave Clark himself in later years it has to be said...)
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Post by Chris Barratt on Feb 9, 2015 7:25:21 GMT
The timeline of success of the DC5 in the UK is historically put down to the group concentrating on America - how they started 1964 with two huge hits & ended the year only managing #25 with what is an incredible single, Anyway You Want It.
The truth is Dave may have been a great businessman with a great manager/PR in Harold Davison, but within the UK music industry even then the hyperbole was needling many when they knew he was using session drummer Bobby Graham, producer (& Joe Meek alumni) Adrian Kerridge and ghost songwriter Ron Ryan. Yes they achieved some astonishing sonic results, but DC was crediting himself for the talent of Kerridge, Graham plus the songwriting/musicianship of his songwriters (Ryan who he discarded in mid 64, plus Lenny Davidson & Mike Smith). There was a certain karma about their diminishing commercial returns in the UK - apart from the two mid-65 hit singles they were effectively dumper-bound here until the American success waned in 67, and they scored several decent-sized UK hits aboard various pop bandwagons until DC split the band in 1970.
This image problem has ruined the groups legacy - stuff wasn't available for reassessment by younger generations other than occasional tackily-presented hits compilations (the hyperbole ruins the real achievements and that is continuing to this day) meant tracks that were overlooked in the 60s (Anyway You Want It, Try Too Hard, Nineteen Days, At The Scene, Concentration Baby, Inside & Out, Maze Of Love etc etc) stayed overlooked throughout the late 70s Mod revival scene (tho the DC5 were never mods the music could be) and the 90s all-things-60s Britpop-led revivalism.
Great businessman Dave might be (it was he who brought together all the musical ingredients even if he wasn't actually playing, producing or writing) but in his native UK his group are still seen as peers of Gerry & The Pacemakers and Freddie & The Dreamers when the truth is many of their tracks can be played alongside Motown, Spencer Davis Group, Small Faces, Stax etc and keep everybody dancing. The continued disconnect can be seen in the choice of vox-pops in this new documentary - mainly American musicians with the angle on 'massive' with only Macca representing the British Scene. (*Elton is a latter-day associate of Dave's vis-a-vis Freddie Mercury)
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Post by johnpater on Feb 9, 2015 9:31:00 GMT
I listened intently to this interview but admit that I could not find any references to any intended DC plans for the RSG archive in there either. There was a passing reference to his owning the show now but that's about it. Where does he actually spell this out if it is in there?
I have been hoping for an RSG DVD set for years. If the shows are mainly segments only then so be it. A compilation of clips, themed bits and the few whole shows. Whatever exists would be very welcome. Based on what we have seen from those C4 compilations, there would be at least enough for a three to four disc set (more than what exists by far of Top Of The Pops from the same period). It is a shame this valuable material is not being seen more widely.
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Post by Liam Joseph on Feb 9, 2015 12:00:04 GMT
Yes John, it was disappointing there was no mention of any RSG releases, would presumably need a more informed interviewer than Steve "I'm everybody in showbiz's best mate" Wright to get such details. If only DC would do an interview with Record Collector or Kaleidoscope we might find out more about what is in his archive and likely to see the light of day.
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Post by williammcgregor on Feb 9, 2015 12:33:49 GMT
This is a DC5 DVD I bought from www.thevideobeat.com just in case any member does'nt know this stuff is available?  |
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