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Post by Chris Barratt on Dec 22, 2014 8:53:35 GMT
The silence/mystery surrounding 'World' suggests to me it may be something to do with a certain 'World'wide ongoing project, so I am not expecting an announcement re: TOTP discoveries anytime soon.
It wasn't perfect, but these Bee Gees shows are of an extremely high standard all told. The notable omission they could have used from TOTP was the 2-minute clip of My World recently returned to the BBC from ZDF via Kaleidoscope, but given the perilous (unnecessarily) politicized internal state of the BBC and disgraceful budget constraints BBC Four endure, in the circumstances I think Mark Cooper, Dione Newton and the team are doing a sterling job in exceptionally trying times.
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Post by Bradley Solly on Dec 22, 2014 17:19:54 GMT
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Post by johnstewart on Dec 22, 2014 17:56:10 GMT
The new york mining disaster clip says it was filmed in London and maybe used on Top of the pops? Does anyone know?
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 23, 2014 10:30:11 GMT
z6.invisionfree.com/popscene/index.php?act=idx
The popscene site shows only this appearance, which appears to be in the studio:
11-5-67: Presenter: Pete Murray (Wiped)
(1) SANDIE SHAW – Puppet On A String (and charts) (5) LULU – The Boat That I Row (19) THE BEE GEES – New York Mining Disaster 1941 (9) THE DUBLINERS – Seven Drunken Nights (video) (NEW) VAL DOONICAN – Two Streets (20) ARTHUR CONLEY – Sweet Soul Music (crowd dancing) (NEW) NEW VAUDEVILLE BAND – Finchley Central (24) THE SHADOWS – Bombay Duck (video) (4) THE TREMELOES – Silence Is Golden ® (1) SANDIE SHAW – Puppet On A String ®
Regarding the variety of songwriting styles that they did, to a current audience the Bee Gees 60s records suffer from the 'cliched' recording techniques of the period, e.g. mono & orchestras. This makes them primitive in comparison to their 'Night Fever' period which is much more timeless.
This is not to detract from the greatness of the earlier songs. There was budgetary reasons why they were recorded like that. Many people who remember them at the time like them, and it is a testimony to their quality as songs that they have attracted numerous cover versions into more recent times.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Dec 23, 2014 10:58:27 GMT
z6.invisionfree.com/popscene/index.php?act=idx
The popscene site shows only this appearance, which appears to be in the studio:
11-5-67: Presenter: Pete Murray (Wiped)
(1) SANDIE SHAW – Puppet On A String (and charts) (5) LULU – The Boat That I Row (19) THE BEE GEES – New York Mining Disaster 1941 (9) THE DUBLINERS – Seven Drunken Nights (video) (NEW) VAL DOONICAN – Two Streets (20) ARTHUR CONLEY – Sweet Soul Music (crowd dancing) (NEW) NEW VAUDEVILLE BAND – Finchley Central (24) THE SHADOWS – Bombay Duck (video) (4) THE TREMELOES – Silence Is Golden ® (1) SANDIE SHAW – Puppet On A String ®
Regarding the variety of songwriting styles that they did, to a current audience the Bee Gees 60s records suffer from the 'cliched' recording techniques of the period, e.g. mono & orchestras. This makes them primitive in comparison to their 'Night Fever' period which is much more timeless.
This is not to detract from the greatness of the earlier songs. There was budgetary reasons why they were recorded like that. Many people who remember them at the time like them, and it is a testimony to their quality as songs that they have attracted numerous cover versions into more recent times. Oddly, the Peter Whitehead directed promo from this show exists (that's the Dubliners)!
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Post by Paul Watkins on Dec 27, 2014 15:47:28 GMT
Surprisingly there's not much input here. This is quite a big recovery, and no 'official' comment from where it came!!! strange.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 27, 2014 17:30:57 GMT
I was thinking the same thing where has this clip come from ?
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Post by pennygarlick on Dec 27, 2014 22:38:04 GMT
I wonder if it came from the Dutch archives? 192TV has shown missing performances of The BeeGees in the past .
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Post by John Green on Dec 27, 2014 22:47:50 GMT
Yes,it's irritating.On the official website,under 'News 9th December' there's reference to "a recent discovery of 'World' from TOTP 1967". www.brothersgibb.org/news.html Not very enlightening!
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Post by David smothers on Dec 28, 2014 7:26:32 GMT
When it comes to the Bee Gees... at least their early work, I've always categorized them s "Orchestral pop".
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Post by nicadare on Dec 28, 2014 10:26:32 GMT
I wonder if it came from the Dutch archives? 192TV has shown missing performances of The BeeGees in the past . That wouldn't surprise me, there's an early colour clip in this 192TV advert-------> 192TVBert Van Breda does seem to have access to many European TV archives.
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Post by markjhaley on Dec 28, 2014 12:43:16 GMT
The 'World' TOTP recovery includes probably the worst keyboard miming ever. At times Robin Gibb seems incapable of even hitting the keys!
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 29, 2014 9:26:46 GMT
.....to illustrate a contrived point about Odessa being a psychedelic album (which it wasn't) when a far better case can be made for Horizontal being their most psychedelic record. Actually a collection of their sixties b sides would probably be their best psych album. The Bee Gees went in a number of vastly differing musical directions in their work over 1967-69 not just mainstream pop.... Had a play of the Bee Gees 60s LPs (these days via You Tube). Difficult to identify any of them as purely 'psych'. 'Odessa' seems overblown. A bit like the anticipation of Oasis 'Be Here Now' much later. You expect a masterpiece, but get something a bit neither here nor there. Will have to listen again....
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Post by Kev Hunter on Dec 29, 2014 10:00:39 GMT
The 'World' TOTP recovery includes probably the worst keyboard miming ever. At times Robin Gibb seems incapable of even hitting the keys! Agreed Mark! Same in this Beat Club clip of "Harry Braff".. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXowlB6k38k
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 29, 2014 10:05:16 GMT
Two of my favourite Bee Gees songs are "Holiday" from the Bee Gees 1st Abum and "Swan Song" which closes on side 2 of "Idea" both beautiful songs but for me there's plenty of others.
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