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Post by Jonny Williams on Dec 19, 2014 23:37:11 GMT
Well someone's gotta ask .. So where was this found? The caption said 'recently discovered'
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Post by Kev Hunter on Dec 20, 2014 10:09:02 GMT
Also good to see "First Of May" on last night's BBC compilation. (Incidentally has anyone mentioned or noticed the uncanny similiarity between the 1967 - 69 era Barry Gibb and comedian John Bishop?)
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Post by Thomas William Patrick Walsh on Dec 20, 2014 10:36:24 GMT
I've asked Andrew Sandoval for any help regarding the wonderful unearthing of 'World' aired last night. The absolute highlight of a brilliant compilation.
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Post by markjhaley on Dec 20, 2014 13:28:20 GMT
Great news. Keeps everybody buzzing when something turns up ?
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 20, 2014 20:22:16 GMT
Great One of my favourite Bee Gees songs and bought it back in 1967
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 20, 2014 20:27:05 GMT
Yes how, when and where was this discovered or found? Excellent to see and great that the beeb are looking beyond their archive as well, my only grumble was I wished they'd incorporated "Idea" from the Belgian special in the compilation though
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 20, 2014 20:42:07 GMT
Just a quick bit of detective work it seems they performed it on 3 editions;
30 11 1967 LONG JOHN BALDRY – Let The Heartaches Begin THE BEE GEES – World VAL DOONICAN – If The Whole World Stopped Loving THE MONKEES – Daydream Believer FELICE TAYLOR – I Feel Love Coming On TOM JONES – I’m Coming Home ALAN PRICE SET – Shame CLIFF RICHARD – All My Love
14 12 1967 THE BEATLES – Hello Goodbye SCAFFOLD – Thank U Very Much THE HERD – Paradise Lost THE MONKEES – Daydream Believer THE BEE GEES – World DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES – In And Out Of Love CAT STEVENS – Kitty TOM JONES – I’m Coming Home
28 12 1967 THE BEATLES – Hello Goodbye SPENCER DAVIS GROUP – Mr. Second Class THE BEE GEES – World THE MONKEES – Daydream Believer DES O’CONNOR – Careless Hands BILLY FURY – Beyond The Shadow Of A Doubt SCAFFOLD – Thank U Very Much THE ROLLING STONES – 2000 Light Years From Home THE BEATLES – The Fool On The Hill
Here's hoping it's not an isolated clip and something else survives personally I hope it's 28/12/67 as it's got SDG and Billy Fury on it!! :-)
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Post by nicadare on Dec 20, 2014 21:13:35 GMT
Not a bad compilation although the IDEA footage was poor quality the colour was washed out, far better prints exist at ZDF and were broadcast by EinsFestival a few years back. The 'World' clip is on film so probably an orphaned clip. As much of the performances were lip-synched an audio overdub wouldn't of gone amiss. Nice clip of Pink Floyd from TOTP '67 shown in 'The Joy of the Bee Gees'.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 21, 2014 8:47:43 GMT
It was a good documentary.
I noticed how part of the Floyd find was given an 'outing'. Good to see it on TV.
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Post by robchapman on Dec 21, 2014 8:51:24 GMT
. Nice clip of Pink Floyd from TOTP '67 shown in 'The Joy of the Bee Gees'. .....to illustrate a contrived point about Odessa being a psychedelic album (which it wasn't) when a far better case can be made for Horizontal being their most psychedelic record. Actually a collection of their sixties b sides would probably be their best psych album. And did anyone else think that the See Emily Play clip has been further cleaned up since it was first discovered four years ago?
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Dec 21, 2014 10:01:53 GMT
The Bee Gees touched upon psychedelia. But had more in common with e.g. The Hollies or even Engelbert at that time. They were aimed at a mainstream TV audience.
Whereas Floyd adopted the psychedelic stance totally.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Dec 21, 2014 11:47:48 GMT
The Bee Gees went in a number of vastly differing musical directions in their work over 1967-69 not just mainstream pop.
'To Love Somebody' - successfully covered by Nina Simone was a soul flavoured ballad etc
'I've Gotta get A Message To You' & 'First of May' were mainstream pop and ballad
but songs such as; 'New York Mining Disaster 1941', 'Holiday', 'Every Christian Lion Hearted Man Will Show You' & 'World' (both featuring Maurice Gibb on mellotron), 'Red Chair Fadeaway', 'I Started A Joke', 'And The Sun Will Shine', 'I've Decided To Join the Airforce', 'The Ernest of Being George','The Change is Made', 'Indian Gin and Whisky Dry', 'Down To Earth', 'Horizontal', 'Idea', 'With The Sun in My Eyes', Craise Flinton Kirk Royal Academy of Arts', 'Odessa (City on The Black Sea)', 'Kilburn Towers', 'Marley Purt Drive', 'Lemons Never Forget','Jumbo', 'Sir Geoffrey Saved The World', 'Barker of The UFO', etc....were as the very titles suggest surreal and experimental as anything the likes of The Beatles, Pink Floyd etc ever recorded...
'I Am The World' was an earlier cut from their Australia days...
besides that they were doing the more mainstream material like; 'Words', 'Only One Woman' (a no.2 hit for the Marbles), 'Massachusetts' etc
they also later did rock numbers like; 'Back Home', 'Road To Alaska', 'Bad Bad Dreams'
and while from 1969-1974 they released more ballads/pop songs as singles ('Don't Forget To Remember', 'Lonely Days', 'My World', 'Run To Me' etc) on albums they still did a number of more experimental tracks such as; 'Paper Mache Cabbages and Kings', 'Sweet Song of Summer' (featuring Maurice on synth), 'Walking Back To Waterloo' etc...
even in their (actually quite brief) 'disco' era you also got songs that were anything but - 'Rest Your Love on Me' was a country flavoured ballad...
interesting how 'Spirits (Having Flown)' has wistful echoes of 'Kilburn Towers' about it...
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Post by robchapman on Dec 21, 2014 12:24:21 GMT
actually, if we're being pedantic Stigwood's initial idea wasn't for mainstream tv appeal at all. His main eye was on the publishing. Hence them signing to NEMS before they even had a UK record contract. Stigwood wanted to tout them round Tin Pan Alley as songwriters. Hence the 'songs for all occasions' all round appeal I guess, which as Patrick indicates they never really lost.
None of this was really explored in detail in the doc which I thought had some great clips but a dog of a script.
Anyway, greatly enjoying the off topic digressions as always. Merry christmas y'all.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Dec 21, 2014 19:59:36 GMT
More research or information needs to come out on how they were found or if anything else exists from the shows mentioned. Hopefully it will!!!!
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Post by Jeff Leach on Dec 22, 2014 3:03:29 GMT
The first of May clip that was screened i recall comes from the Lulu recovered show which I'm pretty sure is the first time that has been show outside the Kal event several years ago.
Would be nice to see the whole show broadcast
MARCH 1969:
6-3-69: Presenter: Alan Freeman
(1) PETER SARSTEDT – Where Do You Go To (My Lovely) (and charts) (49) DAVE DEE, DOZY, BEAKY, MICK & TICH – Don Juan (NEW) STEVIE WONDER – I Don’t Know Why (I Love You) (21) LOVE AFFAIR – One Road (NEW) LULU – Boom Bang-A-Bang (24) THE TYMES – People (11) THE BEE GEES – The First Of May (1) PETER SARSTEDT – Where Do You Go To (My Lovely) ®
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