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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 15:11:43 GMT
Lost Shows.com say all 5 episodes are Missing. The following information comes from Tvpopdiaries and the line-ups differ to those listed on Lost Shows.com.
Monday 13th February 1961 Associated-Rediffusion The British Song Contest 6:30-7pm. NB Cool For Cats makes way for one week only. The show is partly
arranged by the Music Publishers Association. The Dallas Boys, Craig Douglas, Jill Day, The Three Barry Sisters, Matt Monro - My Kind Of Girl.
Tuesday 14th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest Don Lang, Lorrie Mann, Tony Brent, The Mudlarks, Andy Cole.
Wednesday 15th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest. Mike Desmond, The Avons, Ronnie Carroll, Johnny Wade, Mike Preston - Marry Me.
Thursday 16th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest June Marlow, Rosemary Squires, The Raindrops, Johnny Angel, Frank Ifield.
Friday 17th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest - Grand Finale. 10:30-11:15pm, Marry Me wins, with My Kind Of Girl in second place.
I am wondering if William or anyone else can provide further information, such as the names of songs sung by the various artists, to help everyone, perhaps
locate some Missing material from any of the 5 ME.
nb: the bfi have a filmographic record for The British Song Contest 1961 and similarly for British Song Contest 1965, but in both instances, no film or video is
held at the bfi.
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Post by Gordon Roxburgh on Dec 15, 2014 20:15:32 GMT
This was actually called the ITV Song Contest, and was set up as a rival to the BBC's Song For Europe, which took place the same week on the 15th February. I devoted chapters to the ITV Song Contest 1961 and the British Song Festival 1965 in my book "Songs For Europe - The United Kingdom at the Eurovision Song Contest - Volume One - The 1950s and 1960s" published by Telos Publishing. Here in brief is what I found out about the 1961 event.
Heat One: Monday 13th February
My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro (Composed by Leslie Bricusse) 1st ( Top marks from all nine juries)
When You Speak To Me Of Love The Barry Sisters (Composed by Michael Carr and John Turner)
It Happens Every Day Craig Douglas (Composed by Norman Newell)
Huggin’ And A’ Kissin’ And A Squezzin’ Jill Day
Lovin’ Man The Dallas Boys
Heat Two: Tuesday 14th February
Sixteen Hours The Mudlarks
Fish And Chips Don Lang (Composed by Monty Babson)
Keep It That Way Lorie Mann (Composed by Raymond Dutch and Guy Mason) 1st (Top marks from seven of the nine juries)
I’ll Remember Summer Andy Cole
My Day Tony Brent (Composed by Stan Butcher and Syd Cordell)
Heat Three: Wednesday 15th February
Marry Me Mike Preston (Composed by Laurence Jack) 1st (Won by 20 points)
That’s When You’ll Know Ronnie Carroll (Composed by Donald Phillips) 2nd
Ring-A-Ling The Avons
See You Johnny Wade
Welcome Love Mike Desmond (Composed by John Watson)
Heat Four: Thursday 16th February
If I Could Live My Life All Over again Johnny Angel (Composed by Leslie Bricusse)
Dreamin’ Of My Darlin’ June Marlow (Composed by Dick James)
I Can’t Get Enough of Your Kisses Frank Ifield (Composed by Larry Stone)1st
Got A Feeling I’m In Love Again Rosemary Squires (Composed by Anthony Crathern)
If We Kissed In Kalamazoo The Raindrops
THE FINAL: Friday 17th February
My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro 49 Points 2nd
Keep It That Way Lorie Mann 4th
Marry Me Mike Preston 56 Points 1st
I Can’t Get Enough Of Your Kisses Frank Ifield 3rd
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Post by williammcgregor on Dec 15, 2014 20:27:38 GMT
Lost Shows.com say all 5 episodes are Missing. The following information comes from Tvpopdiaries and the line-ups differ to those listed on Lost Shows.com. Monday 13th February 1961 Associated-Rediffusion The British Song Contest 6:30-7pm. NB Cool For Cats makes way for one week only. The show is partly arranged by the Music Publishers Association. The Dallas Boys, Craig Douglas, Jill Day, The Three Barry Sisters, Matt Monro - My Kind Of Girl. Tuesday 14th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest Don Lang, Lorrie Mann, Tony Brent, The Mudlarks, Andy Cole. Wednesday 15th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest. Mike Desmond, The Avons, Ronnie Carroll, Johnny Wade, Mike Preston - Marry Me. Thursday 16th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest June Marlow, Rosemary Squires, The Raindrops, Johnny Angel, Frank Ifield. Friday 17th February 1961 ITV The British Song Contest - Grand Finale. 10:30-11:15pm, Marry Me wins, with My Kind Of Girl in second place. I am wondering if William or anyone else can provide further information, such as the names of songs sung by the various artists, to help everyone, perhaps locate some Missing material from any of the 5 ME. nb: the bfi have a filmographic record for The British Song Contest 1961 and similarly for British Song Contest 1965, but in both instances, no film or video is held at the bfi. sorry Simon, I only have two issues of the NME from 1961 late October,early November I see somebody on Ebay was selling a batch from 1961. It's the same seller I bought the entire year 1971 from just the other week. I'm tempted to buy the 1961 batch as well but it's an expensive time of the year so I probably will need to pass on the opportunity. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 20:36:54 GMT
This was actually called the ITV Song Contest, and was set up as a rival to the BBC's Song For Europe, which took place the same week on the 15th February. I devoted chapters to the ITV Song Contest 1961 and the British Song Festival 1965 in my book "Songs For Europe - The United Kingdom at the Eurovision Song Contest - Volume One - The 1950s and 1960s" published by Telos Publishing. Here in brief is what I found out about the 1961 event. Heat One: Monday 13th February My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro (Composed by Leslie Bricusse) 1st ( Top marks from all nine juries) When You Speak To Me Of Love The Barry Sisters (Composed by Michael Carr and John Turner) It Happens Every Day Craig Douglas (Composed by Norman Newell) Huggin’ And A’ Kissin’ And A Squezzin’ Jill Day Lovin’ Man The Dallas Boys Heat Two: Tuesday 14th February Sixteen Hours The Mudlarks Fish And Chips Don Lang (Composed by Monty Babson) Keep It That Way Lorie Mann (Composed by Raymond Dutch and Guy Mason) 1st (Top marks from seven of the nine juries) I’ll Remember Summer Andy Cole My Day Tony Brent (Composed by Stan Butcher and Syd Cordell) Heat Three: Wednesday 15th February Marry Me Mike Preston (Composed by Laurence Jack) 1st (Won by 20 points) That’s When You’ll Know Ronnie Carroll (Composed by Donald Phillips) 2nd Ring-A-Ling The Avons See You Johnny Wade Welcome Love Mike Desmond (Composed by John Watson) Heat Four: Thursday 16th February If I Could Live My Life All Over again Johnny Angel (Composed by Leslie Bricusse) Dreamin’ Of My Darlin’ June Marlow (Composed by Dick James) I Can’t Get Enough of Your Kisses Frank Ifield (Composed by Larry Stone)1st Got A Feeling I’m In Love Again Rosemary Squires (Composed by Anthony Crathern) If We Kissed In Kalamazoo The Raindrops THE FINAL: Friday 17th February My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro 49 Points 2nd Keep It That Way Lorie Mann 4th Marry Me Mike Preston 56 Points 1st I Can’t Get Enough Of Your Kisses Frank Ifield 3rd Gordon, that's absolutely fantastic! From your post, it can be seen that the daily line-ups agree with tvpopdiaries above. Now we have the songs as well! This is a great help, if there is any footage, these song titles will surely help to locate. Yes, I agree with you about the name of the show, not being The British Song Contest, but is I.T.V. Song Contest, because on youtube the winning number by Mike Preston Marry Me has as the record is played, a photo of the single in it's original sleeve which says at the top 'The £1000 First Prize Winner of the I.T.V. Song Contest. Also on the 45rpm it says Accompaniment Directed by Harry Robinson. On another thread, Paul Vanesis has mentioned that a Harry Robinson was the original Lord Rockingham. Paul..is this the same Harry Robinson please? |
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Post by Gordon Roxburgh on Dec 15, 2014 20:51:14 GMT
I can answer that on Harry Robinson/Lord Rockingham, they are indeed one and the same person. Harry Robinson also conducted "Are You Sure" for The Allisons that won A Song For Europe in 1961. Therefore he had the distinction of conducting both the winning songs in A Song For Europe and the ITV Song Contest.
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Post by John Green on Dec 15, 2014 21:03:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 14:39:48 GMT
This was actually called the ITV Song Contest, and was set up as a rival to the BBC's Song For Europe, which took place the same week on the 15th February. I devoted chapters to the ITV Song Contest 1961 and the British Song Festival 1965 in my book "Songs For Europe - The United Kingdom at the Eurovision Song Contest - Volume One - The 1950s and 1960s" published by Telos Publishing. Here in brief is what I found out about the 1961 event. Heat One: Monday 13th February My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro (Composed by Leslie Bricusse) 1st ( Top marks from all nine juries) When You Speak To Me Of Love The Barry Sisters (Composed by Michael Carr and John Turner) It Happens Every Day Craig Douglas (Composed by Norman Newell) Huggin’ And A’ Kissin’ And A Squezzin’ Jill Day Lovin’ Man The Dallas Boys Heat Two: Tuesday 14th February Sixteen Hours The Mudlarks Fish And Chips Don Lang (Composed by Monty Babson) Keep It That Way Lorie Mann (Composed by Raymond Dutch and Guy Mason) 1st (Top marks from seven of the nine juries) I’ll Remember Summer Andy Cole My Day Tony Brent (Composed by Stan Butcher and Syd Cordell) Heat Three: Wednesday 15th February Marry Me Mike Preston (Composed by Laurence Jack) 1st (Won by 20 points) That’s When You’ll Know Ronnie Carroll (Composed by Donald Phillips) 2nd Ring-A-Ling The Avons See You Johnny Wade Welcome Love Mike Desmond (Composed by John Watson) Heat Four: Thursday 16th February If I Could Live My Life All Over again Johnny Angel (Composed by Leslie Bricusse) Dreamin’ Of My Darlin’ June Marlow (Composed by Dick James) I Can’t Get Enough of Your Kisses Frank Ifield (Composed by Larry Stone)1st Got A Feeling I’m In Love Again Rosemary Squires (Composed by Anthony Crathern) If We Kissed In Kalamazoo The Raindrops THE FINAL: Friday 17th February My Kind Of Girl Matt Monro 49 Points 2nd Keep It That Way Lorie Mann 4th Marry Me Mike Preston 56 Points 1st I Can’t Get Enough Of Your Kisses Frank Ifield 3rd Hello Gordon I have been in touch with Kaleidoscope regarding the name of the Show re: ITV or I.T.V. Song Contest, they are interested in seeing some kind of actual proof that it was known by this name, they have asked me to ask you, if you would kindly forward the paperwork if you have this, to them please. Hope this is okay with you...cheers Simon  |
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Dec 16, 2014 14:44:41 GMT
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Post by John Green on Dec 16, 2014 15:04:21 GMT
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Post by John Green on Dec 16, 2014 16:38:41 GMT
Isn't it the Radio Times listing title which is definitive? It was,of course,ITV's song contest,but what was its official title?
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Post by johnpoole on Dec 16, 2014 19:43:09 GMT
Just 'River Man', I think. String arrangements on Nick's other songs were by Robert Kirby. |
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Post by John Green on Dec 17, 2014 2:03:08 GMT
Does anyone know if this competition,and the 1965 one,were covered in the pop and TV annuals at the time.I'm convinced that those will prove a useful resourse someday.Well,maybe...
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Post by robchapman on Dec 17, 2014 12:56:25 GMT
I think I'm right in saying that Lord Rockinghams XI of Hoots Mon fame were made up of all the English session jazzers at the time. Ronnie Scott. Benny Green etc. Green wrote a caustic and very funny piece about it in his Daily Mirror column in the 1980s. He's been invited to one of those Guiness style corporate gatherings for everyone who had ever had a number one record. Surveying the assembled gathering of those who attend such things (ie no one of any major talent) he speculated that if a bomb had dropped on the building at that moment the damage to the music industry would have been minimal. Tch. Those jazz snobs eh!
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Post by johnpoole on Dec 17, 2014 17:39:33 GMT
I think I'm right in saying that Lord Rockinghams XI of Hoots Mon fame were made up of all the English session jazzers at the time. Ronnie Scott. Benny Green etc. Green wrote a caustic and very funny piece about it in his Daily Mirror column in the 1980s. He's been invited to one of those Guiness style corporate gatherings for everyone who had ever had a number one record. Surveying the assembled gathering of those who attend such things (ie no one of any major talent) he speculated that if a bomb had dropped on the building at that moment the damage to the music industry would have been minimal. Tch. Those jazz snobs eh! I'm not sure that Ronnie Scott was a member of Lord Rockinghams XI which did include Benny Green and a number of jazzmen. However, their star was the wonderful organ player Cherry Wainer, who sadly passed away last month aged 78. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11263698/Cherry-Wainer-obituary.htmlI think it was a launch party for one of the editions of the Guinness Book of British Hit Singles that Benny Green attended and then wrote about. |
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Post by John Green on Dec 17, 2014 17:48:47 GMT
Matt Munro did well with 'My Kind of Girl',including singing it on the Ed Sullivan Show in the U.S. in October. It's a bit misleading here: www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=22061 where it says that he won ITV's 'British Song Contest' (sic) with the song in February 1961.The First Heat,surely? Or maybe there was a recount! |
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