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Post by Paul Edwards on Nov 4, 2014 8:03:54 GMT
Hi,
Just thinking about countries where DW was sent in Africa (Sierra Leone, Ghana, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Zambia), I got to wondering why episodes were not sold to other former British colonies in Africa (Kenya, Botswana, and there's probably others). ANyone know why just those countries?
Cheers,
Paul
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 4, 2014 9:46:55 GMT
For the two countries you mention, Kenya did take the series and transmitted it between 1966 and 1967, screening only the first eleven stories.
Botswana didn't have a television service in the 1960s. In fact, they didn't have one until 2000.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Nov 4, 2014 16:27:50 GMT
Richard, were cruise ships or holiday parks ever given any ?
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Post by timmybrown82 on Nov 5, 2014 1:25:08 GMT
did Rhodesia ever get any stories from the BBC or bicycle from other places (was it shown in Portugal and those paints given to Rhodesia as they were "friends" of Rhodesia up until 1974).
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 5, 2014 12:10:09 GMT
Richard, were cruise ships or holiday parks ever given any ? There's no evidence that that ever happened. That sort of distribution was actually handled by a different department within Enterprises called Non-Theatric Sales, which basically dealt with any sales requests that were made for programming not for broadcast television. It was via this route that Ian Levine obtained his copies of various episodes in the 1970s/80s. The Non-Theatric Sales (NTS) weren't recorded on the normal Enterprises sales sheets, which only logged the sales for public broadcast television. However, what records for NTS that do exist show that virtually everything they sold was either in the form of documentaries and education programmes, usually to universities, colleges, Departments of Education etc. Occasionally, companies or special interest groups would purchase documentary material specific to them. So, for instance, Alfa Lavel Ltd obtained a copy of 'Farming', which featured one of their products, the Christian group 'The Navigators' purchased an edition of 'Escape to Fulfilment' that dealt with them, and so on. The only drama that has been found thus far to be sold by NTS was the BAFTA-winning play from the 'Play for Today' strand, 'Edna, the Inebriate Woman', which was sold to the Metropolitan Toronto Library Board, although I guess it would be likely that various Shakespeare plays would have been prime targets for various institutions. The only example that I know of for the sort of outlet you're talking about is a sale that was made to the Dutch airline, KLM, for the one-off documentary 'Flying Doctor' detailing the medical help that Michael Wood provided to the peoples of the African bush in the 1960s. Presumably, this would have been purchased as one of their in-flight films. Again though, this was a factual programme rather than a drama. |
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Post by jakhaynes on Nov 5, 2014 13:54:07 GMT
Richard, were cruise ships or holiday parks ever given any ? There's no evidence that that ever happened. That sort of distribution was actually handled by a different department within Enterprises called Non-Theatric Sales, which basically dealt with any sales requests that were made for programming not for broadcast television. It was via this route that Ian Levine obtained his copies of various episodes in the 1970s/80s. The Non-Theatric Sales (NTS) weren't recorded on the normal Enterprises sales sheets, which only logged the sales for public broadcast television. However, what records for NTS that do exist show that virtually everything they sold was either in the form of documentaries and education programmes, usually to universities, colleges, Departments of Education etc. Occasionally, companies or special interest groups would purchase documentary material specific to them. So, for instance, Alfa Lavel Ltd obtained a copy of 'Farming', which featured one of their products, the Christian group 'The Navigators' purchased an edition of 'Escape to Fulfilment' that dealt with them, and so on. The only drama that has been found thus far to be sold by NTS was the BAFTA-winning play from the 'Play for Today' strand, 'Edna, the Inebriate Woman', which was sold to the Metropolitan Toronto Library Board, although I guess it would be likely that various Shakespeare plays would have been prime targets for various institutions. The only example that I know of for the sort of outlet you're talking about is a sale that was made to the Dutch airline, KLM, for the one-off documentary 'Flying Doctor' detailing the medical help that Michael Wood provided to the peoples of the African bush in the 1960s. Presumably, this would have been purchased as one of their in-flight films. Again though, this was a factual programme rather than a drama. |
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Post by jakhaynes on Nov 5, 2014 14:00:38 GMT
That would explain some of the Tomorrow's World episodes that were held by RAE/DERA Bedford and Farnborough. Where the BBC would report on aviation stories. I assume a copy on 16mm was sent through courtesy.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 5, 2014 14:44:13 GMT
They undoubtedly would have had to pay for them.
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Post by shellyharman67 on Nov 5, 2014 15:49:30 GMT
Richard, were cruise ships or holiday parks ever given any ? There's no evidence that that ever happened. That sort of distribution was actually handled by a different department within Enterprises called Non-Theatric Sales, which basically dealt with any sales requests that were made for programming not for broadcast television. It was via this route that Ian Levine obtained his copies of various episodes in the 1970s/80s. The Non-Theatric Sales (NTS) weren't recorded on the normal Enterprises sales sheets, which only logged the sales for public broadcast television. However, what records for NTS that do exist show that virtually everything they sold was either in the form of documentaries and education programmes, usually to universities, colleges, Departments of Education etc. Occasionally, companies or special interest groups would purchase documentary material specific to them. So, for instance, Alfa Lavel Ltd obtained a copy of 'Farming', which featured one of their products, the Christian group 'The Navigators' purchased an edition of 'Escape to Fulfilment' that dealt with them, and so on. The only drama that has been found thus far to be sold by NTS was the BAFTA-winning play from the 'Play for Today' strand, 'Edna, the Inebriate Woman', which was sold to the Metropolitan Toronto Library Board, although I guess it would be likely that various Shakespeare plays would have been prime targets for various institutions. The only example that I know of for the sort of outlet you're talking about is a sale that was made to the Dutch airline, KLM, for the one-off documentary 'Flying Doctor' detailing the medical help that Michael Wood provided to the peoples of the African bush in the 1960s. Presumably, this would have been purchased as one of their in-flight films. Again though, this was a factual programme rather than a drama. Thanks Richard............... |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 5, 2014 16:07:23 GMT
did Rhodesia ever get any stories from the BBC or bicycle from other places (was it shown in Portugal and those paints given to Rhodesia as they were "friends" of Rhodesia up until 1974). Yes, Rhodesia purchased the first 11 stories. BroaDWcast - Rhodesia |
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Post by George D on Nov 7, 2014 0:08:35 GMT
Thats an interesting page. It shows an advertisement for Mission to the Unknown from Rhodesia.. and thats NOT one of the first 11 stories  |
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Post by charles drummel on Nov 7, 2014 0:39:20 GMT
Thats an interesting page. It shows an advertisement for Mission to the Unknown from Rhodesia.. and thats NOT one of the first 11 stories The newspaper is dated a month before MTTU aired in the UK. Did they simply run an article from the radio times or other? Was it normal to have a preview in print five weeks prior to airing in the UK (perhaps more likely for a Dalek story)? |
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Post by George D on Nov 7, 2014 0:47:58 GMT
Im assuming they were given a stock picture with no relation to any episode as it says they hadnt started showing them yet.
Still a very interesting curiousity.
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Post by Richard Bignell on Nov 7, 2014 8:23:01 GMT
The UGH story would have been released by one of the news agencies so would have been available for many newspapers worldwide to pick up and run. In this case, they were using it to advertise the run of the first 11 Hartnells that they were due to start that month.
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Post by Jon Preddle on Nov 7, 2014 20:35:11 GMT
The same UGH story appeared in a 19 September 1965 paper in Zambia as well.
I've seen publicity photos and stories in newspapers of countries that didn't even screen 60s Doctor Who! For instance, a Brazilian paper published photos of the bald Teknix from Daleks Master Plan, and a 1966 Spanish paper had the Drahvins from Galaxy 4.
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