Kev Hunter
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jun 18, 2014 10:16:02 GMT
Having a peruse of the Poptastic! list of TOTPs from 1970 (which I arrived at thanks to this very forum), two things leaped out at me which may or may not have been already aired here but I'll ask anyway..
19.2.70 : "Shocking Blue - Venus (Studio) Rpt >> clip exists in colour" .. is this a colour version of the more commonly-seen B/W performance, and if so, is it out there anywhere that I could see it?
26.3.70 : "David bowie clip" - what is this?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jun 18, 2014 10:26:29 GMT
Having a peruse of the Poptastic! list of TOTPs from 1970 (which I arrived at thanks to this very forum), two things leaped out at me which may or may not have been already aired here but I'll ask anyway.. 19.2.70 : "Shocking Blue - Venus (Studio) Rpt >> clip exists in colour" .. is this a colour version of the more commonly-seen B/W performance, and if so, is it out there anywhere that I could see it? 26.3.70 : "David bowie clip" - what is this? I've never seen it in colour, the Shocking Blue. And the Bowie? No idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jun 18, 2014 10:45:24 GMT
Having a peruse of the Poptastic! list of TOTPs from 1970 (which I arrived at thanks to this very forum), two things leaped out at me which may or may not have been already aired here but I'll ask anyway.. 19.2.70 : "Shocking Blue - Venus (Studio) Rpt >> clip exists in colour" .. is this a colour version of the more commonly-seen B/W performance, and if so, is it out there anywhere that I could see it? 26.3.70 : "David bowie clip" - what is this? The Shocking Blue clip I believe comes from a TOTPs B/W film that was found to still has the colour signal buried in it,the BBC flirted with an ingenious process that allows the colour picture to be recovered a few years ago, but lately have appeared to loose interest in restoring the B/W films (not all have it,only some that were orginally made in colour)which still have the colour coding. I haven't seen it, but the David Bowie clip -could??? - be his early release of 'The Prettiest Star' in which Marc Bolan played on guitar, in which case it would make it very rare indeed..but this is only speculation on my part. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 12:26:46 GMT
The Shocking Blue colour clip is the same performance as contained in the 29/1/70 edition (which exists as a b/w t/r); about half of that show has colour performances existing, which would make it one of the best candidates ever for a colour recovery of the rest!  |
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Post by trevorhilton on Jun 19, 2014 3:37:15 GMT
Re: Venus. I'm familiar with a b/w version I have as part of an Australian TV show called Hitscene, but I am fairly positive that I have seen that same clip in colour somewhere, but I can't remember when or as part of what.
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Post by Dave Woods on Jun 19, 2014 19:54:51 GMT
The 29/01/1970 version of Venus has the band with the dancers in the "cages" behind them. They're followed by Badfinger doing Come And Get It on what I think of as the "inside-of-a-Christmas-bauble" set.
In that pretty decent run of TOTP2 BBC2 showed two years ago, they played the Badfinger clip in colour but used the black and white clip of Venus from 05/02/1970, where Shocking Blue is playing on the Christmas bauble set.
I don't think I've seen the Venus clip in colour. It's logical that it would be from the 29/01/1970 show because we know elements of that have been shown in colour. But has anyone actually seen it in colour? They showed quite a lot of good stuff in that run of (I think) 10 programmes. Is there a reason why they didn't show the colour version of Venus?
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Kev Hunter
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Post by Kev Hunter on Jun 19, 2014 20:16:43 GMT
Regarding the Badfinger performance of "Come And Get It", Dave - it's strange that while that colour clip has been aired quite a few times over the years (eg as part of "The Rock 'n' Roll Years" and TOTP2) there was a black and white version of it used in last year's "Totally British 70s Rock" compilation.. but why?! Baffling as to why a b/w clip would be included when the colour version is around.. anyone know the answer?
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Post by Dave Woods on Jun 19, 2014 21:02:16 GMT
With the proviso that anything I say about these things is pure conjecture... I could see that being down to oversight, maybe. I suspect there isn't a complete, colour version of 29/01/70 sitting around at the BBC - I suspect the colour versions exist effectively as orphan clips. So unless someone who wants to use these clips knows about the colour version of a performance, they might wind up getting the B&W one. As I say, I don't know.
With the TOTP2 thing I was wondering if that was pointing towards that clip not actually existing in colour at all, even though other performances from the same show do exist in colour. But obviously it could just be oversight too. Or something else. It's just that I would have figured that someone who was aware of the Badfinger colour clip would also have used (for the same set of programmes) the Shocking Blue colour clip if it existed.
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