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Post by willcosens on Feb 23, 2012 17:49:48 GMT
Hello All:
Do any of you have any information at all on Fury from the Deep as i know about the Villiers house incident and that they had a Fury from the Deep 6 can, yet it contained something else sadly.
(''Does occur to me that if the films were accidentally muddled up and stored in the wrong can, the Fury From The Deep episode could still be languishing in the BBC 's film archive.
If we knew what was found in the Fury can, we would know which film can may hold it!'')
Also my copy of wiped it says the story was sold only to 5 countries including Hong Kong and Singapore, alas all 5 have confirmed they no longer have the episodes even though Australia has no records of any of Fury's six episodes being destroyed i appreciate any assistance you could give me, from watching the remaining clips it is truly a remarkable story.
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Post by John Andersen on Feb 23, 2012 19:06:59 GMT
Hello All: Do any of you have any information at all on Fury from the Deep as i know about the Villiers house incident and that they had a Fury from the Deep 6 can, yet it contained something else sadly. (''Does occur to me that if the films were accidentally muddled up and stored in the wrong can, the Fury From The Deep episode could still be languishing in the BBC 's film archive. If we knew what was found in the Fury can, we would know which film can may hold it!'') Also my copy of wiped it says the story was sold only to 5 countries including Hong Kong and Singapore, alas all 5 have confirmed they no longer have the episodes even though Australia has no records of any of Fury's six episodes being destroyed i appreciate any assistance you could give me, from watching the remaining clips it is truly a remarkable story. It seems that it was never documented in writing as to what was in that Fury from The Deep film can. Although that could have provided a lead at the time, nobody can remember what the other program was. As for Australia, I heard that a fellow named Damian Shanahan supposedly checked that country quite thoroughly. He was unable to find any lost episodes. Even though there is no record of it being destroyed, chances are it probably was, unless somebody took the prints before they could be destroyed, which would be a miracle if that happened |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Feb 23, 2012 20:49:06 GMT
Production documentation varies from country to country. Despite saying it wasn't destroyed it's highly likely the event simply wasn't recorded.
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Post by willcosens on Feb 23, 2012 22:24:52 GMT
What exactly happened to the Fury from the Deep can anyway?
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Post by erikborja on Feb 23, 2012 23:52:57 GMT
Well what I heard was in the Fury from the Deep 6 can was an episode of Adam Adamant Live episode
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Post by George D on Feb 24, 2012 0:48:05 GMT
its kind of unusal that an adam adamant episode is in a dr who can as dr who is around 26 minutes and adam adamant is around 52 minutes. Maybe the can is bigger on the inside than out?  Of course I love Adam Adamant so it never hurts my feelings when an Adam adamant shows up |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Feb 24, 2012 2:57:34 GMT
its kind of unusal that an adam adamant episode is in a dr who can as dr who is around 26 minutes and adam adamant is around 52 minutes. Maybe the can is bigger on the inside than out? Of course I love Adam Adamant so it never hurts my feelings when an Adam adamant shows up Reel 1 of 2. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Feb 24, 2012 10:06:51 GMT
(''Does occur to me that if the films were accidentally muddled up and stored in the wrong can, the Fury From The Deep episode could still be languishing in the BBC 's film archive. If we knew what was found in the Fury can, we would know which film can may hold it!'') It's something that's been suggested many times before. However, the entire stock of BBC film cans have been examined over the years to ensure the contents match with what the label says, especially now that the old F&VT Library at Windmill Road has closed down and the entire stock has been moved over to the new facility. |
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Post by willcosens on Feb 24, 2012 18:00:22 GMT
Some prints had been sold to Gibraltar on 19/04/73 yet Molesworth's book has no information at all on what happened to them.
(just a thought, yet for some reason i have a bad feeling Gibraltar has been checked thoroughly, still, food for thought.)
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Post by davidstead on Feb 24, 2012 19:51:54 GMT
Hi Guys,
The 'Fury from the Deep' can that was recovered with The Ice Warriors episodes from Villiers House Basement, was a small 35mm can.
I was unlucky enough to be on a days leave when the episodes arrived back to the Film Library, from Villiers. The episodes were checked on that day, but also left for me to have a look at. The Fury can was left under my desk, with several other odd cans (filled with various odds and sods, nothing of note. The Fury can was also empty!! so I can confirm what the can was (I still have all the labels for the Ice Warriors and Fury cans), but not what may or may not have been in it, as it was empty when I got to check it! - If you check elsewhere on this site, my Fury label is there.
I can see why there is confusion about the Fury Label, as the can it was stuck on to was definately a 35mm small can, certainly not large enough for a 923ft 16mm print!, though certainly small enough to contain one reel of a two reel 16mm print. Only Adam lee could confirm what was or was not in the can, however he doesn't exactly have a good reputaion when it comes to keeping things, so it's anyones guess what was in that can when it left Villiers house for the Film library.
Hope that helps things,
Davidx
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Post by Rob Moss on Feb 24, 2012 20:34:11 GMT
Probably an episode of Fury, which he junked because we had enough representative episodes of Doctor Who already..!  |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Feb 24, 2012 21:57:26 GMT
I can see why there is confusion about the Fury Label, as the can it was stuck on to was definately a 35mm small can, certainly not large enough for a 923ft 16mm print!, though certainly small enough to contain one reel of a two reel 16mm print. Wouldn't one (of two) reels of an hour long show be the same as a single half hour reel though? Still roughly ~900ft? |
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Post by George D on Feb 25, 2012 0:22:34 GMT
I think it was full episode found which doesnt make sense it was in the can. Unless they split it up in two parts and both parts happened to show up.
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Post by willcosens on Feb 25, 2012 0:58:08 GMT
Interesting but how possible is it that Fury 6 is still in the UK or in the hands of another private collector???
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Post by Rob Moss on Feb 25, 2012 11:20:45 GMT
Interesting but how possible is it that Fury 6 is still in the UK or in the hands of another private collector??? Nobody's saying that it is. In all probability, the can was reused, that's all. |
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