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Post by John Green on Apr 5, 2014 21:31:08 GMT
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Post by Patrick Coles on Apr 10, 2014 20:04:18 GMT
I wonder if this PBS 'Dave Clark Five' special will be shown on the PBS channel we get on cable TV here...?
When Channel Four repeated some of the 'Ready Steady Go !'shows DC held back in the 80's he inserted a Dave Clark Five performance under a 'The Sixties' sort of intermission (not RSG performances)
I can recall them doing 'Everybody Knows' (the 1967 hit - sung by Lenny Davidson) with all five band members sat in a 'V' formation, Dave central on drums, with Mike and Lenny playing acoustic guitars, Rick on bass and Denis on electric guitar to orchestrated accompaniment...
I recently got hold of the VHS tape of 'Glad All Over Again' which features 16 complete performances of songs - intercut with Dave and Mike with crowd in colour there is Madeline Bell singing along on the TOTP performance of 'Everybody Get Together' in b/w - presumably all are from DC's own archive as BBC no doubt 'lost' their copy yonks ago...
some Ed Sullivan Show performances are no doubt included - 'Catch Us if You Can', 'Over and Over', and 'You Got What it Takes' are all in colour.
I assume these performances will also feature in the forthcoming DVD.Blu Ray release...
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Post by John Green on Apr 22, 2014 0:29:39 GMT
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Post by Peter Prentice on Apr 22, 2014 8:22:53 GMT
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Post by John Green on Apr 22, 2014 9:21:29 GMT
Interesting.Thanks,Peter. But...Lead Belly? Who's he? Ah,the delights of finding a trivial error... |
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Apr 22, 2014 10:42:03 GMT
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Apr 22, 2014 12:53:21 GMT
Just completed watching the documentary and it could have been titled the Dave Clark Story but it's still made interesting viewing. I guess with three fifths of the DC5 no longer with us, most of the documentary is viewed with narration by Dave Clark. I'm not sure how much interview material exists of the other members of the band, there are some contributions made by the others but it's mostly DC interviews that is used.
What does come across is how much DC was ahead of his time in the music industry. To have the foresight to lease his music to the record company so he could take control of it, is the envy of most artists especially the likes of Paul McCartney. Macca even makes a comment about not owning publishing rights to his own music.
There's three main sections to the doc - DC5, Ready Steady Go and the Time musical. Only bits of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is used but it's worth checking out the whole section on you tube.
Unfortunately there's no mention of his future plans with the material he has in his archive.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Apr 22, 2014 13:13:57 GMT
Thanks Sal i look forward to watching it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 14:18:30 GMT
Interesting viewing if a bit of a superficial and glossy PR job. Lots of interesting clips to tantalise you there (nothing not already known about from RSG though, unfortunately).
I was bemused by DC's remarks regarding Ready Steady Go and it being "a great piece of history" for future generations to see and appreciate; I'm still waiting for the chance to appreciate it! Come on, DC: get that comprehensive RSG DVD set out before physical media are completely dead and buried!!
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Post by Patrick Coles on Apr 22, 2014 16:07:17 GMT
can anyone who has seen this advise if it includes many (if any) FULL length complete song performances by The DC5 ?
a few 'unofficial' Beatles DVDs (& even their 'official' Anthology in places) include some great song performances....that are incomplete or have annoying 'voice overs' during them stating interesting things that COULD easily have been said before or after the song clip - presumably this is done to 'scupper pirates' etc, but in truth it only succeed in irritating the artist's fans !
Dave Clark certainly was ahead of his time and it's no exaggeration to say that he & Brian Wilson cut out the 'middle men' even more than The Beatles managed to do, DC was no doubt a shrewd manager & businessman, he apparently 'took America for every cent he could get'...but then don't others TRY to do such things too ? (The Sex Pistols did...and misfired...)
the public no doubt DID like The DC5 as a band & their music in the sixties, and remember their 1977 UK compilation, years after they split,'Twenty Five Thumping Great Hits' effortlessly sliced straight through punk & seventies pop to TOP the UK album charts (minus any active group to support/promote the record)
Some jealousy (from some music people tho' mostly the music press) it appears is directed at DC (back then & maybe even now) probably as he got pretty much a 'free hand' at Lansdowne studios from EMI when the likes of those more "important" musicians such as Lennon & co still had to wear ties & had to ask permission to get a key to unlock the fridge for any milk over at Abbey Road studios ! (that is not aimed at JL but the overall attitude - not by The Beatles themselves I add - was pretty 'Anti DC' and the various reasons probably included a certain envy re his position of freedom in a very closely controlled music business back then (& and again now !)
Why DC seems so determined to 'airbrush out' his own band music wise re keeping the vast majority of the back catalogue in limbo, remains a mystery (?)
I've heard various tales of books being commenced on The DC5...and abandoned !
- plus apparently strong 'eagles' guarding the DC5 wiki page, while some music forums are full of figures claiming they wrote all the songs, others claim they played all the drums...or the bass etc - so maybe a few 'skeletons' are being kept firmly locked in the cupboard ??
- we can only guess the truth, whatever, as a result sadly about 70% of The DC5's perfectly good back catalogue beyond the main hits - songs & instrumentals on which Mike Smith, Lenny Davidson, & Denis Payton especially shine - is still kept firmly locked away from wider public recognition and enjoyment....after all these years that such a great shame !
whoever played what...or wrote what...The DC5 were capable of ALOT more than just bashing out 'Glad All Over' & 'Bits and Pieces' etc
hopefully this latest Docu, while predictably being no doubt largely the 'Dave Clark show' will now reawaken some deeper interest in the music of The DC5 and maybe we might get a proper release of their UK & USA albums on compact disc, plus maybe a 'B' sides and 'Rarities' compilation(s)
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Apr 22, 2014 16:49:37 GMT
There's no complete performances in the documentary. There is an extra disc in the DVD release but I'm not sure what's on the other disc. The best sounding music in the programme is stuff I've never heard before after they finished touring. It's not surprising when you can't buy any CD's apart from a hits compilation.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2014 17:18:23 GMT
The incomplete clips just leave you wanting more and also puzzled as to what exists in totality in the various archives! DC5 are certainly far better represented than most other '60s groups as regards TV and filmed performances (many in colour). DC is very vague about RSG though; we're no wiser as to exactly how much material exists of the show (and how many recordings are complete editions from what he has). You kind of wonder if we'll ever find out! They're one of the most well known '60s groups but also, in another way, one of the least well known.
Gene Simmons though: what a complete and utter plonker.
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Post by Patrick Coles on Apr 23, 2014 8:52:19 GMT
If you see it - and can still play VHS tapes - snap up The Dave Clark Five VHS release; 'Glad All Over Again' (I got a 'used but fine' one for a tenner via Amazon UK recently) - that gives you 16 complete DC5 TV performances of many of their biggest hits - mostly the clips DC put into his 'Ready Steady Go !' reruns on Channel Four in the 80's
The VHS tape has: 'Do You Love Me', 'Glad All Over', Bits and Pieces', 'Can't You See That She's Mine', Any Way You Want it', 'Wild Weekend' (recording studio footage), 'Everybody Knows' (1965),'Come Home', 'I Like it Like That', 'Because' (all b/w)
then in colour; 'Catch Us if You Can', 'You Got What it Takes', 'Over and Over', 'Everybody Knows' (1967-b/w) and finally the b/w TOTP footage of 'Everybody Get Together'(with Madeline Bell) intercut with 70's (or 80's) colour footage of DC & Mike Smith (with crowd) singing along to it...
surprisingly the 'Good Old Rock & Roll' medley and 'Put A Little Love in Your Heart' (both 1969) are not included, and sadly there is no; 'Try Too Hard', 'Nineteen Days' or 'Here Comes Summer' (three of my favs) but at least that covers the gist of the main hits minus just a couple...
the 'Bits and Pieces' version included is different to the old TOTP b/w version in BBC's 'Sounds of The Sixties' and the VHS versions do have 'screaming girls' on the earlier hits but you CAN hear the group clearly over them...
worth grabbing (& maybe putting onto DVD yourself) if you see it on Amazon as the VHS release must be getting hard to find by now...and there is NO DVD version.
Beyond giving the public a 'Greatest Hits' collection every so often ('Greatest Hits', 'Best of...' & '25 Thumping Great Hits' LPs) then 'Glad All Over Again', 'History of...' and most recently 'The Hits' CD sets Dave Clark seems to want to go no further re reviving his group's legacy, maybe there are reasons it suits him not to explore their back catalogue further (legal issues, royalties, etc) certainly there are NO books on The DC5 and it seems DC is happy to let people just remember the group for some sixties pop hits and nothing more...
whatever, it's a great pity as The DC5 back catalogue IS well worth a complete sonic overhaul and re-issue, with most of the original UK albums never even being issued in stereo format, thus mono/stereo versions of all on compact disc plus the EP songs as 'bonus' tracks with a 'B' sides set & a 'Rarities' compilation, together with all the (non UK) American albums in mono/stereo which at least would give the wider public a chance to fully enjoy and appreciate a very underrated sixties outfit...
...and would at least allow The DC5 to finally take their place alongside their far better remembered, respected, & glowingly acclaimed famous sixties contemporaries...many of whom the DC5 actually outsold and outscored re number of UK & USA chart hit singles !
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Post by keithmchugh on Jul 6, 2014 15:23:44 GMT
I still have my VHS somewhere, but it was well played at the time I bought it so not sure what state it'll be in now. I do remember there were colour performances on there that had previous been shown in black/white on the repeats of Ready Steady Go.
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Post by Jeff Leach on Nov 23, 2014 3:13:04 GMT
This must be quite rare - a one off half hour US Tv special pilot www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszE7I1JB7AA few complete numbers performed No sign of the Special surfacing on PBS's UK channel so far |
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