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Post by RWels on Jan 11, 2018 16:34:19 GMT
So basically it is believed approximately 8 minutes of the film can have some sort of reconstruction and not the whole episode? As so often is the case, we'll just have to wait and see. It's never been done before, so no-one, probably not even the researchers themselves, know how successful it will be.
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Post by brianfretwell on Jan 14, 2018 14:18:00 GMT
I believe they said somewhere that the 8 minutes was all their current budget would produce and that the rest of the film was in cold storage in case they could process it later.
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Post by George D on Jan 16, 2018 7:17:31 GMT
Hard to figure that one out. If they had it under the scanner,then one would think they scanned the whole film.
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Post by simonashby on Jan 17, 2018 21:40:47 GMT
Hard to figure that one out. If they had it under the scanner,then one would think they scanned the whole film. I guess the process isn't as quick as you might imagine. I also expect that they would want to see how the restoration on this section pans out before releasing money for the rest of it. Budgets are squeezed these days.
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Post by RWels on Jan 17, 2018 21:44:57 GMT
Hard to figure that one out. If they had it under the scanner,then one would think they scanned the whole film. Watch the video. They cut out sections with a laserbeam. They could just stop cutting and scan what they have.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 19, 2018 8:06:21 GMT
If they've only scanned eight minutes, it would be the first eight minutes of the programme. They started cutting and scanning from the outside of the reel.
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Post by RWels on Jan 19, 2018 13:10:47 GMT
If they've only scanned eight minutes, it would be the first eight minutes of the programme. They started cutting and scanning from the outside of the reel. Unless they didn't rewind it after the last use.
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Post by Sue Butcher on Jan 20, 2018 0:22:30 GMT
If they've only scanned eight minutes, it would be the first eight minutes of the programme. They started cutting and scanning from the outside of the reel. Unless they didn't rewind it after the last use. Some of the scanned frames look more like a title card than end credits.
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Post by Hugh Pearson on Jan 20, 2018 15:35:35 GMT
Umm, from re-reading Part 2, I think that each group of recovered frames have come from a roughly 2.5 cm "slightly pie-shaped" cube (for want of a better description - see photo below) laser cut from the reel. Therefore, only 3 frames are continuous if you take my point. Frames from each layer in each cube would have to be sequenced properly in order to be able to view a "continuous" bit of a restored part of the programme (opening, introduction, first sketch). Looking at the size of the cube, they would have to scan the entire outer 2.5 cm edge of the reel first, then ... All of this work must take a huge amount of time to complete, even if some of the algorithm work might be run automatically via a computer programme. It still takes someone to look at, compile these images, etc. etc. This still just boggles my mind. Given that the people are researchers and not film recovery/restoration specialists, I can see why they cannot devote the time to any more at this time. Sadly, like a lot of things, it all comes down to money. Attachments:
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Post by alexbriggs on Feb 17, 2018 10:37:20 GMT
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Post by mattchurchett on Feb 18, 2018 22:47:59 GMT
Nice! Glad that we finally get to see a little taster from all the hard work that’s gone into it
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Post by Jaspal Cheema on Feb 19, 2018 13:30:04 GMT
Umm, from re-reading Part 2, I think that each group of recovered frames have come from a roughly 2.5 cm "slightly pie-shaped" cube (for want of a better description - see photo below) laser cut from the reel. Therefore, only 3 frames are continuous if you take my point. Frames from each layer in each cube would have to be sequenced properly in order to be able to view a "continuous" bit of a restored part of the programme (opening, introduction, first sketch). Looking at the size of the cube, they would have to scan the entire outer 2.5 cm edge of the reel first, then ... All of this work must take a huge amount of time to complete, even if some of the algorithm work might be run automatically via a computer programme. It still takes someone to look at, compile these images, etc. etc. This still just boggles my mind. Given that the people are researchers and not film recovery/restoration specialists, I can see why they cannot devote the time to any more at this time. Sadly, like a lot of things, it all comes down to money. Wow,how much information about a recovered TV show can you recover from a Liquorice Allsort...?
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Post by Charles Norton on Feb 21, 2018 8:54:58 GMT
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Post by Arthur Chim on Feb 21, 2018 12:12:11 GMT
Wonderful to see the footage that was scanned.
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Post by martinjwills on Feb 21, 2018 16:47:07 GMT
Although Jerky i'm sure computers will be able to make the picture more stable, in the future. It seems to have got the roll of tar, back to a badly damaged film print. Nobody expected that 2 years ago.
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