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Post by johnforbes on Jan 24, 2014 10:45:17 GMT
I attended only one film fair,at Leeds in the early 80s.My opening line "Doctor Who film prints were stolen from the BBC years ago,and they're trying to identify the people we've got 'em" produced no results. Leeds is a bit too far. The London area / South, was more likely. |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 24, 2014 11:17:35 GMT
Car boot sale in December 1983 for 8 quid each. However given the large time span from their likely junking to their sale (5-8 years if these are the Australian copies), I find it very unlikely that other episodes didn't get sold at filmfairs/car boots in the intervening years. Obviously, we only know of the episodes that people have been kind enough to buy then give back. And nothing at all about the episodes that others have bought and kept to themselves. Probably how they were acquired, ones or twos. If you know the significance of what you've got and you're holding onto it for that reason you don't flog a print of Evil ! |
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Post by johnforbes on Jan 24, 2014 11:34:19 GMT
Car boot sale in December 1983 for 8 quid each. However given the large time span from their likely junking to their sale (5-8 years if these are the Australian copies), I find it very unlikely that other episodes didn't get sold at filmfairs/car boots in the intervening years. Obviously, we only know of the episodes that people have been kind enough to buy then give back. And nothing at all about the episodes that others have bought and kept to themselves. Probably how they were acquired, ones or twos. If you know the significance of what you've got and you're holding onto it for that reason you don't flog a print of Evil ! In the early days, no one knew the significance of what they might have. Therefore prints of Evil, RoT, etc etc (that we know of) were flogged. However given the timespan from the junkings to the public sales, I would find it unlikely that no other DW material was sold before then by anyone else. |
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Post by John Wall on Jan 24, 2014 12:08:28 GMT
Probably how they were acquired, ones or twos. If you know the significance of what you've got and you're holding onto it for that reason you don't flog a print of Evil ! In the early days, no one knew the significance of what they might have. Therefore prints of Evil, RoT, etc etc (that we know of) were flogged. However given the timespan from the junkings to the public sales, I would find it unlikely that no other DW material was sold before then by anyone else. Depends upon what was actually acquired. With Evil it could have been acquired in 75/76 and by 83 someone is tired of it, having a clear out, their tastes have changed, etc, etc so they sell it for £8 and buy something else. |
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Post by martinjwills on Jan 24, 2014 12:08:57 GMT
We have to remember in the early 1980s The computer and internet were in their infancy, so things couldn't be looked up easily. Computers that people had to be programmed by hand eg 10 FOR I=1to10:PRINT "---DR WHO---":NEXT I, before they would do anything. We had massive 96K machines eg Commodore Pets, other home computers had only 1k or ram up to 64k. So it would only be in the printed media that anyone would know about missing episodes, who would be at boot fairs etc.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 24, 2014 12:13:39 GMT
We have to remember in the early 1980s The computer and internet were in their infancy, so things couldn't be looked up easily. Computers that people had to be programmed by hand eg 10 FOR I=1to10:PRINT "---DR WHO---":NEXT I, before they would do anything. We had massive 96K machines eg Commodore Pets, other home computers had only 1k or ram up to 64k. So it would only be in the printed media that anyone would know about missing episodes, who would be at boot fairs etc. It would have been virtually impossible for "Joe public" to find out what was missing. Unless you were in DWAS, read DWM, etc you were like a mushroom - kept in the dark and fed on manure.... |
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Post by brianfretwell on Jan 24, 2014 12:31:37 GMT
I read that the boot sale was at a movie museum, that would explain the confusion if a film fair was inside with a boot sale in the car park.
I also saw copies (?) of the two episodes that were due to be shown at the Brighton cinema, at a Wessex Film Fayre, or at least that was what was on the boxes.
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Post by John Wall on Jan 24, 2014 12:41:29 GMT
I read that the boot sale was at a movie museum, that would explain the confusion if a film fair was inside with a boot sale in the car park. I also saw copies (?) of the two episodes that were due to be shown at the Brighton cinema, at a Wessex Film Fayre, or at least that was what was on the boxes. There's a lengthy post from PV somewhere on the story behind that recovery. It can probably never be proven but it seems likely that they were acquired together, sat in a collection together for a few years and were then sold together. A similar thing happened to Airlock/UM2. |
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Post by simonashby on Jan 24, 2014 16:43:18 GMT
That's not the original label for Evil 2. According to the wikipedia entry though, it says it is "A film canister containing the only surviving episode of the 1967 Doctor Who serial The Evil of the Daleks." According to the wikipedia entry though, it says it is "A film canister containing the only surviving episode of the 1967 Doctor Who serial The Evil of the Daleks." Wikipedia is wrong. It's a fake contemporary-style label created by Gordon Hendry who owns the print. He not only told me this himself, but also gave me one of the blanks he created at the time. Uh... Am I missing something? That statement doesn't even refer to original cans or labels! That statement is correct. |
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Post by Richard Bignell on Jan 24, 2014 17:37:27 GMT
You need to read the thread from the first post.  |
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Post by Brad Phipps on Jan 24, 2014 23:38:27 GMT
I attended only one film fair,at Leeds in the early 80s.My opening line "Doctor Who film prints were stolen from the BBC years ago,and they're trying to identify the people we've got 'em" produced no results. Ah, so you're the bugger who scared off all the film collectors all those years ago! |
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