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Post by David Buck on Sept 15, 2003 12:24:38 GMT
I'm pleased to say that after a long wait i've finally got my hands on a print I bought a while back Z-CARS : A Straight Deal tx: 11/03/64 print is in fairly good condition - I will of course get this over to the archives soon. if anyone involved fancies putting up the episode details from the forthcoming z-cars book I'd appreciate it. Actually I found the vageries of fate quite amusing on this one - it finallly turned up 4 months after I'd payed for it and in the meantime my only other "recovery" was an episode of the cheaters entitled "Intent to defraud" which I thought summed up the situation regarding this z-cars print at the time, but the z-cars print got it's own back as it was "a straight deal" after all
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Post by William Martin on Sept 15, 2003 14:57:12 GMT
this is .. whatever word describes the joy felt when finding a missing episode i can't think of one but whatever it is this is it.Fantonderfullastic??? ;D this is a bulls' eye, 5 and your an ace now find some more this is what the forum was created for and gives us the hope to keep looking
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Post by Topov on Sept 15, 2003 15:50:58 GMT
I will of course get this over to the archives soon. Fantastic - Andrew Martin's the chap to speak to at Windmill Road, BTW. Well done, matey!
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Post by David Brunt on Sept 15, 2003 18:10:03 GMT
I'm pleased to say that after a long wait i've finally got my hands on a print I bought a while back Z-CARS : A Straight Deal tx: 11/03/64 That's marvellous news. One of the only six missing episodes from Season Three. And one of the three Ken Loach-directed episodes. C:28 (101) A Straight Deal Regular Cast: PC Lynch (VT); PC Graham (VT); Det. Chief Insp. Barlow; Det. Sgt. Watt; Sgt. Blackitt (VT); Pamela Earnshaw Ma Tansfield Allison Bayley Josh Tansfield Patrick Westwood George Hoyle Norman Wynne Mrs Hoyle Jean Patten Jim Ryan Larry Burns Jack Simpson George Layton Jackie Small John Dearth Joe Emmett John Lowe PC Patterson Jack Cunningham Mr Bampton Henry Moxon Emmett’s girl friend Tanya Trude Written by Robert Barr Directed by Kenneth Loach Story: When Josh Tansfield tries to make a deal with the police, John Watt is worried - but Barlow gets the best of a good bargain. [RT billing] Barlow investigates the mystery of some explosives. [highlights of the week] It should also have some references back to PC Sweet dying the previous week....
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Post by David Buck on Sept 15, 2003 19:26:13 GMT
Yep - spotted the "Kenneth Loach" credit ; I know it's always reported that he directed early z-cars but I never realised it was so few - are the other two episodes he directed extant ?
don't think there's any reference to P.C. Sweet dying, but I might have missed it - my projector's speaker is still in need of repair so I had to watch it with fairly low audio.
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Post by David Brunt on Sept 15, 2003 20:37:06 GMT
Yep - spotted the "Kenneth Loach" credit ; I know it's always reported that he directed early z-cars but I never realised it was so few - are the other two episodes he directed extant ? Yes, the other two shows are in the archive. #97: Profit By Their Example and #105: The Whole Truth. Rather annoyingly, Ridley Scott's single episode is one of the missing ones from Season Four. Ah, maybe after the big press fuss that week between episodes they didn't want to stir it all up again.
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Post by Tim D on Sept 15, 2003 23:38:14 GMT
Nice one David!!
It'll be great when BBC4 or 2 finds an excuse to show some of these...anything but Happy Families again please ;D Although any archive material screenings are most welcome.
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Post by David Buck on Oct 3, 2003 15:55:53 GMT
The episode is now with the BBC.
Mark - you might want to update the Z-cars listing on the front page.
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Post by William Martin on Oct 3, 2003 16:13:15 GMT
at least its safe now... have you got a copy just to be on the safe side?
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Post by Brian D not logged in on Oct 4, 2003 14:23:53 GMT
Great news! Renewed my hope that one day a Hereward the Wake will turn up too!
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Post by William Martin on Oct 6, 2003 17:51:08 GMT
I don't want to start another BBC bashing thread (even though they may deserve it) but I still think the bbc policy of taking copies of episodes that we have worked hard to find and making money from them is a bit off, isn't it usual for there to be a finders fee for the return of lost property, good will is important and politenes costs nothing.(but obviously a finders fee would) be nice to them auntie beeb, you will find more people willing to come forward
on the subject of z cars is the episode with Tom baker around anywhere?(1968 I think) and what was the storyline(who did he play etc)
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Post by David Brunt on Oct 8, 2003 10:24:35 GMT
on the subject of z cars is the episode with Tom baker around anywhere?(1968 I think) and what was the storyline (who did he play etc) There are no 1968 ZC episodes existing at all (bar some very short clips)... He played Harry Russell in "Hudson's Way" (1-2) 18-19/3/68. David Jackson played his brother, they were two small-time Liverpool crooks... Baker's appearance in Softly, Softly: Task Force "Like Any Other Friday..." 12/2/70 does survive. In this, rather ironically, he has one or two lines as a building site foreman.
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Post by William Martin on Oct 8, 2003 15:35:15 GMT
shame, perhaps something will turn up odd about the building site though I found these on the imdb.co.uk
"Arthur of the Britons" (1972) playing "Brandreth/Gavron" in episode: "Go Warily" (episode # 2.5) 10 October 1973 "Softly Softly" (1966) in episode: "Like Any Other Friday" 12 January 1970 "Thirty-Minute Theatre" (1965) in episode: "Victims, The: Frontier" (episode # 1.137) 27 March 1969 "Dixon of Dock Green" (1955) in episode: "Number 13" 9 November 1968
"George and the Dragon" (1966) 3 February 1968
"Market in Honey Lane" (1967) in episode: "The Matchmakers" 1 February 1968
"Dixon of Dock Green" (1955) in episode: "The Attack" 13 January 1968
they've got the softly softl episode but no z cars perhaps they got dixon of dock green mixed up with it I'm not sure of their accuracy but he seems to have done odd bits of tv through the late 60s and early 70s
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Post by David Brunt on Oct 8, 2003 17:54:19 GMT
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Sadly, of that list, the only extant episodes are
"Arthur of the Britons": "Go Warily" "Softly Softly": "Like Any Other Friday" "George and the Dragon"
No, he did those two Dixons as well...
Yes, but he was still predominantly a stage actor until DW...
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Post by William Martin on Oct 10, 2003 16:10:34 GMT
yes among other things playing a horse in don quixote or something(I'll have to read his auto-biography again) its a shame that so little exists but perhaps there is a chance of this sort of thing turning up in a private dr who collection, a long shot but the sort of thing that happens
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