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Post by Jeff Leach on Jan 29, 2016 2:23:27 GMT
Yes Phil's done a great job on that and several other reconstructions he's done - though 1 blocked already
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Post by John Green on Jan 29, 2016 2:30:47 GMT
If you can't remember the 60s you're not in your sixties...isn't that what they used to say?
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Post by williammcgregor on Jan 29, 2016 6:39:10 GMT
If you can't remember the 60s you're not in your sixties...isn't that what they used to say? Almost John but no cigar...it was actually "If you can remember anything about the 60's you were'nt there" and it seems that it was Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane that came up with the quote?
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Post by John Green on Jan 29, 2016 12:30:27 GMT
What worries me about the BBC is that they've gone from a staff 'too old' to appreciate what they were wiping / junking to a staff 'too young' to understand the treasure trove they're sitting on. What they need are 'historians' like Ray who can list these miscellaneous items in the appropriate manner. Only people aged 50+ need apply! (liked ( LOTS) - even though I'm not even 47 until Friday....) So a now-public domain chorus of: Happy Birthday to you Ray Langstone (formally Saintsray) Happy Birthday to you!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 16:50:18 GMT
If you can't remember the 60s you're not in your sixties...isn't that what they used to say? Almost John but no cigar...it was actually "If you can remember anything about the 60's you were'nt there" and it seems that it was Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane that came up with the quote?Yes, on It Was 20 Years Ago Today, in 1987.
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Post by Tony Walshaw on Feb 2, 2016 9:36:11 GMT
I suspect that present-day BBC programmers look upon their subject like people of commercial radio do. Indeed they may come from such a background. The general vibe of Radio 2 suggests that this is the case.
Thus TOTP footage like Family 'The Weavers Answer' merely seems obscure and dated to them, and not likely to appeal to 'commuters in the traffic jam'. Yet such records were popular and received high airplay and chart placings when originally released.
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Post by Liam Joseph on Feb 3, 2016 8:05:09 GMT
BBC staff interested in rock and pop history seem to be limited to BBC4, and maybe Radio 6. The latest BBC4 Music Moguls programme showed a lot of the Uriah Heep TOTP performance of The Wizard, which I thought was only held by German TV. They could have got it off You Tube, but it looked quite good resolution and there were no idents which all the YT uploads I've seen have. The audio was the studio version, rather than the live vocals one done on TOTP. Wonder if the BBC actually have this?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 5, 2016 11:33:07 GMT
Another find, by the very wonderful Steve Arnold.
the 13th April 1981 episode of 'Say It With Baby Grand' (featuring Andy Fairweather Low), made by BBC Wales has turned up. While I haven't had a chance to view it yet, it most likely comes from a domestic recording and has already been safety copied.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Feb 8, 2016 12:31:10 GMT
Also, another find by Steve Arnold - Stuart Burrows Sings 04/09/1981. Again this has already been safety copied.
""Missing or incomplete episodes for programme STUART BURROWS SINGS Series 3 04.09.81 with Stuart Burrows, Valerie Masterson (missing)""
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Apr 15, 2020 22:06:32 GMT
I was trawling through Youtube the other day for 1960's music clips and found an interesting example from 'Lulu' (1969); it's a clip from an episode broadcast on TX: 1/2/1969: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZGMvKq_7Hs; and it looks like it comes from a domestic recording judging by the quality of the clip. I checked on TV Brain, and at least three editions from this series survive as domestic recordings; I saw an example at a Kaliedoscope event in Birmingham last June which was from a different episode to the one in this clip. So at least there are some episodes surviving out there. This show seems to be continuation of the series 'Happening For Lulu' which was retitled following the 2nd episode (TX:4/1/1969). That particular edition is iconic for having the infamous performance by the Jimi Hendrix Experience when they cut their performance of 'Hey Joe' short to do impromptu tribute to the then recently disbanded Cream. Thankfully that clip survives on B&W 625 line VT, thanks to the efforts of Bob Pratt; although the rest of the episode is lost. Most of the series is missing other than this excerpt and the three episodes that survive as domestic recordings from later on in the series.
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Jan 20, 2021 18:32:53 GMT
Here's some footage of Julie Felix performing with the Hollies on what looks like her self titled show 'Julie Felix' in 1970, judging by the line-up of the band this appearance was from shortly after Terry Sylvester joined the band the previous year. I checked the list of the band's apperances on television in the ever resourceful book 'Channelling the Beat' by Peter Checksfield, and they did appear with Felix that year on a show broadcast on TX:26/04/1970. I've never seen this rare clip before as it hasn't been widely circulated, since apparently the master tape is damaged, although as this excerpt is a time-coded preview clip which is at least a few generations down from the master, this claim is probably misleading.
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Post by petercheck on Jan 20, 2021 19:38:11 GMT
The master tape definitely IS damaged. I know someone who's viewed it, and I myself have a clearer higher generation copy somewhere. Glad it at least survives though!
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Post by robertreinstein on Jan 20, 2021 20:59:09 GMT
I've never seen this rare clip before as it hasn't been widely circulated, since apparently the master tape is damaged, although as this excerpt is a time-coded preview clip which is at least a few generations down from the master, this claim is probably misleading. The actual studio tape survives, but the first 36 minutes are damaged. That includes a Hollies song and a solo performance from Jimmy Page. The segment you shared comes after the damaged portion.
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Post by petercheck on Jan 20, 2021 21:03:49 GMT
I've never seen this rare clip before as it hasn't been widely circulated, since apparently the master tape is damaged, although as this excerpt is a time-coded preview clip which is at least a few generations down from the master, this claim is probably misleading. The actual studio tape survives, but the first 36 minutes are damaged. That includes a Hollies song and a solo performance from Jimmy Page. The segment you shared comes after the damaged portion. You're right, it's The Hollies' 'Lady Please' which I have in higher resolution somewhere. Here's the Jimmy Page clip (can't recall The Hollies' clip being quite this bad though it's years since I've watched it).
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Post by Mike Goldwater on Jan 20, 2021 21:12:55 GMT
So in theory, the sections that weren't too damaged could be restored for future use, such as the 'Going to the Zoo' performance which doesn't suffer from too many technical issues. It must be quite easy to get 2" tape damaged if handled incorrectly, as on a number of occasions it has been the case even for exisiting material that has been recovered.
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