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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 17:14:59 GMT
I really miss the days when comics actually looked like comics; it's not just that there are very few, if any, modern day artists who can make a story flow the way Kirby, Ditko, or even Carmine Infantino, Romita or Neal Adams could The thing about those people (and others like Eisner and Gil Kane) is that they were artist / storytellers and knew about pace and also about what to leave out (maybe this applied less to Adams than some of the others, good though he was). These sort of people made comics unique and different from other forms. You got things in comics that could only happen in comics. TV was the same, whereas now its just a fifth rate cinema imitation. Stories were told well but the comics also looked beautiful; there's nothing eye-catching about modern comics. I see murky over-crowded sterile "artwork" that has no sense of flow or understatement. Individually beautiful static painted panels that don't relate to a wider whole. |
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Post by Tony Ingram on Mar 26, 2013 17:57:01 GMT
The thing about those people (and others like Eisner and Gil Kane) is that they were artist / storytellers and knew about pace and also about what to leave out (maybe this applied less to Adams than some of the others, good though he was). These sort of people made comics unique and different from other forms. You got things in comics that could only happen in comics. TV was the same, whereas now its just a fifth rate cinema imitation. Stories were told well but the comics also looked beautiful; there's nothing eye-catching about modern comics. I see murky over-crowded sterile "artwork" that has no sense of flow or understatement. Individually beautiful static painted panels that don't relate to a wider whole. True. Remove Lee's dialogue from a lot of Kirby's early Marvel stories and you would still have a pretty good idea of what was going on-nowadays, that wouldn't be possible because nothing really flows. I think the rot set in back in the late 80s/early 90s with people like Liefeld and Jim Lee basically drawing each book as little more than a series of vaguely connected (and in Liefeld's case, usually anatomically inaccurate) action pin-up shots-I suspect with more than a little of that being dictated by a desire to flog the original art off to speculative collectors at a later date. |
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Post by Sue Butcher on Mar 27, 2013 1:53:31 GMT
I couldn't agree more about comics. Comics strips need visual and narrative clarity, and should look attractive enough to make you want to read them. And trying to make superheroes "realistic" is ridiculous. At best it's kind of pathetic, at worst it's nauseating.
(I draw strips myself. A background in old-school television is very useful in this profession.)
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Post by Charles Daniels on Mar 27, 2013 13:43:45 GMT
That's why I always keep three of them in my garage for emergencies. Can I borrow one until Friday? I have a teaching machine that I think has a loose Kroton somewhere. The picture's completely Gond. I'll trade you one for a vintage Karkus annual. |
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