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Post by John Andersen on Nov 17, 2012 7:53:33 GMT
I just had an idea, if Mission to the unknown, then BBC sydney had documents for shipping that episode. And since the BBC thought they didn't send it there, then there wouldn't be any order to return it. Someone should go to the BBC sydney and look up the documentations, and see if what i say is true!! No need. That has been done already. Damian Shanahan has been conducting research on the missing episodes for years in Australia. He is the man who discovered edited clips from several lost stories, and he even found the paperwork of what was returned to the BBC in 1975. From what I have heard, Damian was even granted access to where the episodes were once stored. After thoroughly checking the facility, nothing was found.
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 17, 2012 13:53:01 GMT
Can I suggest that Jack should read Richard Molesworth's excellent Wiped! Book, as it will answer a lot of questions that people here have already considered.
Jack, as a rule, most of the suggestions that you might come up with have already been thought of before many times, so doing a bit of research might stop you from repeating things.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Nov 17, 2012 20:10:16 GMT
From what I have heard, Damian was even granted access to where the episodes were once stored. I used to work in a building where missing episodes were once stored.
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Post by Dale Rumbold on Nov 17, 2012 20:15:15 GMT
Am i the only one who's picturing the yeti doing sit ups since the "abdominable snowmen" comment.. maybe that's how they got slimmer for the Web of Fear The Abdominal Snowmen were, of course. cartoon creations by the wonderful J Edward Oliver in the 1970s.
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Post by Brad Phipps on Nov 17, 2012 20:53:02 GMT
Actually I'll clarify; I used to work in a building where missing episodes were stored AND broadcast.
Unbelievably frustrating that Power is my most wanted missing story and I worked in the former DNTV2 building, one of the few places to actually broadcast it...
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Post by mattplace on Nov 17, 2012 20:54:10 GMT
The Abdominal Snowmen were, of course. cartoon creations by the wonderful J Edward Oliver in the 1970s.[/quote]
I'm gonna need that one explained to me. Never heard of that guy
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Post by Dale Rumbold on Nov 18, 2012 10:48:08 GMT
The Abdominal Snowmen were, of course. cartoon creations by the wonderful J Edward Oliver in the 1970s. I'm gonna need that one explained to me. Never heard of that guy You jest surely? Sadly no longer with us. Though it might have been Snowman singular! He drew The Sili-Cones too. Let me see if I can find a suitable link ... www.jeoliver.co.uk/
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 18, 2012 11:45:32 GMT
Great to see another J.E Oliver fan here! One of the great British eccentrics, and the fact he isn't a household name only betrays the shameful lack of respect his profession gets in the UK. He was drawing brand new Fresco Le Ray webcomics up until his death in 2007.. the last storyline was clearly inspired by NuWho and featured Fresco encountering "The Nestle Consciousness"..
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Post by Steven Sigel on Nov 18, 2012 22:27:40 GMT
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Post by Glen Cowan on Nov 19, 2012 2:58:26 GMT
1970 or 1971 would count as "during the Seventies" as far as i'm aware! That is true, but were there many VCR's available to the general public in New Zealand at the time the episodes were shown? Were they affordable enough for people to buy video tapes to record and keep their favorite programs? Domestic video machines in the 1970's in New Zealand that were available to the public would have been a rare thing. Jon Preddle or Brad Phipps maybe able to confirm or shed more light on this question Unless someone who worked at the NZBC had access to a machine and was using it record off air transmissions or was a real video enthusiast back then may have had one. I'm not 100% certain, as far as I know video machines were only readily available to the public in NZ during the early 1980's. I have one of the early Sanyo beta machines it came with tapes and recordings off air from TV1 around 1982. And also people who moved here from overseas may have brought their machine with them as well. But there must have some VCRs around in the 70's here like the Philips N1700/2000/2020 and the likes?
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Post by Rob Moss on Nov 19, 2012 7:03:31 GMT
The earliest Philips VCR, the N1500 wasn't around until 1972, which is too late, isn't it..?
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Nov 19, 2012 10:01:42 GMT
The earliest Philips VCR, the N1500 wasn't around until 1972, which is too late, isn't it..? That would be true unfortunately. Given that the last story to be transmitted of missing episodes was in September 1971 - TheWheel in Space that makes a recording with the N1500 impossible. One tinge of hope is that the block of prints broadcast with Wheel were The Web of Fear and TheEnemy of the World and the whereabouts of them all is unknown, thought to be destroyed. These seem to be the most likely ones to turn up within New Zealand, but again not a lot of hope.
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Post by Daniel Hornby on Nov 19, 2012 10:11:12 GMT
The earliest Philips VCR, the N1500 wasn't around until 1972, which is too late, isn't it..? That would be true unfortunately. Given that the last story to be transmitted of missing episodes was in September 1971 - TheWheel in Space that makes a recording with the N1500 impossible. One tinge of hope is that the block of prints broadcast with Wheel were The Web of Fear and TheEnemy of the World and the whereabouts of them all is unknown, thought to be destroyed. These seem to be the most likely ones to turn up within New Zealand, but again not a lot of hope. PS These 3 serials most likely went on to Nigeria given the fact that neither NZ nor Nigeria showed The Ice Warriors or Fury from the Deep
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Post by Alistair Gordon on Nov 19, 2012 10:22:45 GMT
Perhaps New Zealand broadcast repeats of Troughton episodes at a later date?
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Post by John Andersen on Nov 19, 2012 15:38:10 GMT
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