Help needed - 4 Rediffusion shows

[williammcgregor]

Nov 2, 2012 8:53:39 GMT Ray Langstone (was saintsray) said:

The following 4 Rediffusion Shows are currently not represented in the archives, that is, probably all their episodes are missing.
They are from right across the spectrum of television programmes. Please can anyone provide any information about them..we need your help!

Five O Clock Club and Funfair..entertaining Children's fare with pop music. Muriel Young and Wally Whyton.
It Happened Like This..many well-known names featured in its Drama episodes.
Late Show London..Hosted by Benny Green, this entertaining chat show always conjured up a variety of guests for its episodes.
Mr Aitch..Harry H Corbett and Norman Chappell in fine form in this one series Comedy Show.
The canny amongst you will have spotted that reading down the this, these four spell FILM.
Purely unintentional!!!

Hi Ray,

First of all, If you don't mind?... I'll list the following info on the Pop Music site as well as it could be used as a reference (thanks)

I got the following info about Five O'Clock Club and Five O'Clock Funfair from the NME...hope it helps?

Five O'Clock Club 1965

Cilla on the 15/1/65 show

Del Shannon and Gerry and The Pacemakers 19/1/65

Tommy Quickly, Elkie Brooks, Chris Barber Band 22/1/65

The Travellers, The Barron Knights and Beau Brummel 26/1/65

Millie, The Travellers 29/1/65

Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas, Patsy Ann Noble, Peppi 5/2/65

Tommy Roe, The Marionettes, Rick and Sandy 26/2/65

Sandie Shaw, Joe Brown and The Bruvvers, Tommy Quickly 2/3/65
(Tommy Quickly) was the host in March and sang on each show

Marianne Faithfull 9/3/65

Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 16/3/65

The Hollies, Stubby Kaye, Murray's Monkeys 23/3/65

Little Frankie, Johnny Kidd and The Pirates 24/3/65

Del Shannon, Nashville Teens, Helen Shapiro 30/3/65

The Four Pennies 1/4/65

Freddie and The Dreamers 6/4/65

Susan Maughan, The Applejacks 13/4/65

Donovan 20/4/65

The Silkie, John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Maxine Darren 4/5/65

The Everly Brothers, The Barron Knights, Marianne Faithfull 6/5/65
(switched date)

Manfred Mann, Beau Brummell 11/5/65

The Dave Clark Five, Tony Blackburn 13/5/65

Cilla, Heinz 18/5/65

Janie Marden, Kenny Miller 20/5/65

Richard Anthony, The Shangaans, Three Bells 25/5/65

Connie Francis, New Faces, The Quiet Five 27/5/65

Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas (singing Trains and Boats and Planes) and Donovan (filmed at Brighton's Pier)

THE SHOW WAS THEN REPLACED BY STUBBY'S SILVER STAR SHOW

Five O'Clock Funfare

The Alexis Corner group were resident

Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames 7/9/65

Lulu 9/9/65

Les Flambeaux 10/9/65

The Hollies 14/9/65

The Lancastrians 21/9/65

Harbour Lites (sic) 28/9/65

The Silkie 30/9/65

Five O'Clock Club

Boston Crabs 28/9/65

The Four Pennies 5/10/65

The Fortunes, plus Adam, Mike and Tom 7/10/65

Julie Grant, The Cymbols (sic) 12/10/65

Five O'Clock Funfare

The Swinging Bluejeans 26/10/65

The Animals 28/10/65

Paul and Barry Ryan, Hedgehoppers Anonymous 2/11/65

The Moody Blues, Julie Grant 4/11/65

Anita Harris, Tommy Bruce 9/11/65

Them and Marc Bolan 23/11/65

The Fourmost 25/11/65

The Searchers and Julie Rogers 2/12/65

Thereafter the show reverts back to it's original Five o'Clock format with Tommy Quickly and Muriel Young hosting

Five O'Clock Club

Chris Andrews, The Spencer Davis group 7/12/65

The Kinks, The Transatlantics, Valerie Mitchell 10/12/65

The Ivy League 21/12/65

Herman's Hermit's, The Ivy League, Johnny Tillotson, Lita Roza 24/12/65

The Hollies 28/12/65

Five O'Clock Club 1966

Selina Jones, Leapy Lee, Patrick Dane 7/1/66

Gerry Marsden starts a guest compere for 4 weeks from the 11/1/66

Patti La Belle and the Bluebelles, Pinkerton's assorted Colours, Joni Adams and David Essex 11/1/66

Chris Farlowe, David and Jonathan, Josh Hanna, Elaine Delmar 14/1/66

Sorry I started in 1965 but that's what came to hand first! I'll go back to the beginning next time and also the remainder of 1966

cheers William

[williammcgregor]

May 19, 2013 14:07:02 GMT williammcgregor said:

Nov 2, 2012 8:53:39 GMT Ray Langstone (was saintsray) said:

The following 4 Rediffusion Shows are currently not represented in the archives, that is, probably all their episodes are missing.
They are from right across the spectrum of television programmes. Please can anyone provide any information about them..we need your help!

Five O Clock Club and Funfair..entertaining Children's fare with pop music. Muriel Young and Wally Whyton.
It Happened Like This..many well-known names featured in its Drama episodes.
Late Show London..Hosted by Benny Green, this entertaining chat show always conjured up a variety of guests for its episodes.
Mr Aitch..Harry H Corbett and Norman Chappell in fine form in this one series Comedy Show.
The canny amongst you will have spotted that reading down the this, these four spell FILM.
Purely unintentional!!!

The following info about Five O'Clock Club was obtained from the NME.

Five O'Clock Club 1966

Silkie, Danny Williams, Gary Benson 8/2/66

Billy J Kramer, Chad Stuart, Jeremy Clyde and American singer Mark Murphy 11/2/66

The Spencer Davis Group 14/2/66

The Four Pennies, Charlie and Inez Fox, Janie Marden 15/2/66

Migil 5, Tammy St. John, Lorne Lesley 18/2/66

The Hollies, Glenda Collins, Justin and Karlson (sic) 22/2/66

Adam Faith, The King Brothers, The Twins 25/2/66

The Yardbirds, Unit 4 Plus 2, Charles Dickens 1/3/66

Len Barry, Lulu, G.Fame, 4/3/66

Eden Kane, Frank D'Rone, Chas McDevitt, Shirley Douglas 9/3/66

Graham Bonney, Diane Ferraz, Nicky Scott 12/3/66

Patsy Ann Noble, Saxon, Freddie and the Dreamers 15/3/66

The Spencer Davis group, The Settlers 18/3/66

Herman's Hermits, Arthur Alexander, Antoinette 5/4/66

Dusty, Mr Murray 8/4/66

JOE BROWN COMPERES 4 SHOWS FROM THE 12TH APRIL

The Alan Price Set 12/4/66

Roy Orbison 15/4/66

Wayne Fontana, Fran and Alan 22/4/66

Craig Douglas 29/4/66

No show on 3/5/66 due to Budget coverage

G.Fame, Ken Kirkham, John Summers, 6/5/66

Mindbenders, Paul and Barry Ryan, The Dudley Moore Trio and Peter Cook 10/5/66

Barron Knights, Billie Davis, David Ballantyne 13/5/66

Vince Hill, Ray Martine, Sandie Shaw 17/5/66

Marty Wilde, The Artwoods, Kenny Damon 20/5/66

Dave Clark 5, Ronnie Carroll, Frankie and Johnny 24/5/66

GERRY MARSDEN RETURNS AS COMPERE FOR 4 SHOWS

Billy Fury, The Truth, The Tony Jackson group 27/5/66

Cilla, Morgan James Duo, Shirley Abicair, Barry Mason 31/5/66

Tom Jones, The Squires, Jackie Trent, Barry Benson 3/6/66

ALL SHOWS FROM 2/8/66 WILL NEED TO BE SUNG "LIVE"

BILLY BOYLE COMPERE'S FROM 7/6/66

Mark Wynter, The Newby, Miki Dallon 7/6/66

Dev Douglas and the Jeeps 10/6/66

The Troggs 12/6/66

Julie Rogers, David Garrick 14/6/66

Tony Hazard 17/6/66

Freddie and the Dreamers, Kim Cordell 21/6/66

The Hollies, Susan Maughan 24/6/66

Neil Christian, Michael Cox 28/6/66

David and Jonathan 1/7/66

The Ivy League, Joy Marshall 5/7/66

The Fortunes 8/7/66

G.Fame, The Frugal Sound 12/7/66

The Troggs, Paul and Barry Ryan 15/7/66

Madeline Bell, Alan Price Set 19/7/66

Dusty 22/6/66

Dave Berry, The Creation 26/7/66

Billy Fury 29/7/66

NEIL CHRISTIAN SONG 'Oop's' BANNED BY RSG AND 5 O'CLOCK CLUB

Jonathan King, Lee Drummond 1ST 'LIVE' SHOW 2/8/66

Manfred Mann 5/8/66

Lesley Dawson, Danny Street 9/8/66

The Troggs 12/8/66

Chris Andrews, Washington D.C.'s 16/8/66

Wayne Fontana, Jackie Trent 19/8/66

Sandie Shaw 30/8/66

JOE BROWN COMPERES FROM 30/8/66

MITCH MURRAY FROM 6/9/66

The Hollies, Laura Lee 2/9/66

Cliff Bennett 6/9/66

Kenny Damon, Ian Robbins 9/9/66

Dusty 15/9/66 (FREDDIE GARRITY GUEST COMPERE)

Freddie and the Dreamers, Lulu 16/9/66

GERRY MARSDEN COMPERE FOR FINAL SHOW

The Troggs, The King Brothers, The Daly's, David Essex, Susan Maughan 23/9/66 (FINAL SHOW ?)

Vince Hill 26/9/66 ?

Mindbenders, Sandie Shaw 30/9/66 ?

Cheers William

[williammcgregor]

Five O'Clock Club 1964

Bob Wallis, The King Brothers 7/1/64

Julie Grant 10/1/64

Joe Brown 14/1/64

Alan Drew 17/1/64

Mike Hurst 28/1/64

Adam faith 3/3/64

Johnny Kidd and the Pirates 31/3/64

Chad and Jeremy 24/3/64

Adam Faith and The Roulettes 26/6/64

Lesley gore 4/9/64

Julie Grant, Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 11/9/64

The Yardbirds, Jan Douglas 24/11/64

Nashville Teens, Lulu, Countrymen 11/12/64

Three Bells, The Contrasts 8/12/64

Rory Storm and The Hurricanes 15/12/64

The Barron Knights, Valerie Masters 18/12/64

G. Fame 22/12/64

William

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www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/american-actor-stubby-kaye-and-british-television-presenter/508255691

hope the above link works for it says..

American actor Stubby Kaye (1918-1997) and British television presenter Muriel Young (1923-2001) posed together with children on the set of the children's
television series 'Five O' Clock Club' in 1965.

It's in glorious colour and is a fantastic photo of both! This is the first photo I have seen of Five O' Clock Club in many a year, does anyone know how many
episodes Stubby actually appeared in, or was it just the one?

[John Green]

Hi,Simon.
IMDB have him down for 11,and give the dates,though I don't know how reliable that is. www.imdb.com/name/nm0443401/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1#self
I hadn't realised that he'd done British TV-apart from Doctor Who!

[williammcgregor]

Hi Simon,

Great picture of Stubby on the 5 O'Clock Club

meantime I have Stubby as being on 12 episodes, I updated my list ages ago I don't know why it's not on the one you posted?

but he was on episodes from

4/1/65

8/1

12/1

15/1

22/1

2/2

5/2

9/2

12/2

16/2

19/2

23/3/65

[John Green]

William,
IMDB give 1/12/1964.
1965 15/1.19/1.22/1.26/1.29/1.5/2.9/2.12/2.16/2.23/3.

[williammcgregor]

Thanks John! I've double checked my TV Times DVD and I can confirm the 1/12/64 and the 22/1/65 dates but unfortunately I can't confirm the 26/1/65 and 29/1/65 as the TV Times I have for those dates is the Anglia region and they were showing "Romper Room" at 5 O'Clock on both those dates.

so potentially that's 16 Stubby appearances so far?

I'll amend/update my 5 O'Clock Club thread with this new information.

cheers
William

[Peter Stirling]

Not forgetting that Stubby had his own series on Rediffusion called 'Stubby's Silver Star Show' ... a sort of junior Opportunity Knocks.

[John Green]

Jun 14, 2015 9:29:38 GMT Peter Stirling said:

Not forgetting that Stubby had his own series on Rediffusion called 'Stubby's Silver Star Show' ... a sort of junior Opportunity Knocks.

All 26 of those are missing,of course. Here's how he fares on Lostshows: lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=stubby

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Jun 14, 2015 10:49:59 GMT John Green said:

Jun 14, 2015 9:29:38 GMT Peter Stirling said:

Not forgetting that Stubby had his own series on Rediffusion called 'Stubby's Silver Star Show' ... a sort of junior Opportunity Knocks.

All 26 of those are missing,of course. Here's how he fares on Lostshows: lostshows.com/default.aspx?search=stubby

John, William and Peter

many thanks for your inputs above, I am beginning to wonder if one of you might like to start a separate thread about Stubby Kaye being on British Television,
if you think he merits or warrants it, for from what I can see using John's lostshows.com listing which amounts to 20 ME along with the 26 of Peter's 
Stubby Silver Star Show, and Stubby's entry on uk imdb giving appearances on The Celebrity Game, Don't Say A Word,the last episode of Late Show London 28/3/66, 2 episodes of After Many A Summer 1967, The Kathy Kirby Show 1964, 2 episodes of Stars and Garters, Rolf Harris Show 5/2/71, 6 episodes of Juke Box Jury and John's and William's research on Five 'O Clock Club yielding a potential 16 ME, we are looking at Stubby featuring in 77 ME.

Something else that springs to mind, is, with Stubby appearing so many times on Rediffusion from December 1964 - March 1966, did he perhaps, like Groucho,
obtain a copy of some of his appearances, which he took back to America,? (as indeed did Groucho, for his 1 July 1965 episode was released last year, as notified on here by Ken Griffin).

Stubby's appearance above on Late Show London, ties in with the title of this Thread, Help Needed - 4 Rediffusion Shows, as one of these Shows was Late
Show London. That last episode 28/3/66 had quite a line-up, along with Stubby, was host Benny Green, Stirling Moss, Ian Hendry, John Dankworth and Wilfred
Brambell. Ian Hendry would have known John Dankworth, for correct me some-one if I am wrong, but did John Dankworth write and perform the theme music
to The Avengers, or was that just for Season 2 and 3 and not for Ian Hendry's Season 1 of The Avengers?

Wilfred Brambell, of course brings to mind Harry H Corbett who was the star of another of the 4 Rediffusion Shows at the start of this thread..Mr. Aitch.
What is perhaps  not so widely known is that Harry H Corbett formed his own production company to make Mr. Aitch, the company being called
Harry H. Corbett Productions Ltd, so Mr. Aitch is A Harry H. Corbett Productions Ltd production for Rediffusion Television. 
It is quite possible that this Company of Harry H. Corbett retained a copy of the entire Series of 17 episodes of Mr. Aitch, so while the Rediffusion copy
may or may not be around, this other possible copy may or may not be in existence. What is known is that Harry H. Corbett's son and daughter do not have
this Harry H. Corbett Productions Ltd master, if indeed there was one. I wonder if Ray Langstone can tell us anymore or not?
Mr. Aitch had some great writers writing the episodes, 11 were written by Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, 4 were written by Galton and Simpson, one was
written by Dave Freeman, who wrote for many during his time and the other episode was written by John Junkin..

[John Green]

I think it's a good idea,Simon.Some flippin' people have gotten this thread way off-topic.Oh,alright,I have.

Of course,starting a thread in that way is to guarantee no-one will post on the new one!

[Neil Hendry]

Yes, John Dankworth wrote the theme for The Avengers Series 1. Ian Hendry was a huge fan of jazz - wasn't aware that he appeared on The Late Show in 1966 but as Ian was starring in The Informer , Rediffusion would have been keen to him plenty of 'air-time'. Will add that to the website when I get a moment.

He knew Stirling Moss as well and worked with him when Moss had a cameo in The Beauty Jungle in 1964.

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Jun 19, 2015 19:56:46 GMT Neil Hendry said:

Yes, John Dankworth wrote the theme for The Avengers Series 1. Ian Hendry was a huge fan of jazz - wasn't aware that he appeared on The Late Show in 1966 but as Ian was starring in The Informer , Rediffusion would have been keen to him plenty of 'air-time'. Will add that to the website when I get a moment.

He knew Stirling Moss as well and worked with him when Moss had a cameo in The Beauty Jungle in 1964.

many thanks Neil..for confirming John Dankworth is behind the theme to Avengers Series 1. Again, as with the Informer Query thread, it makes one wonder if
there is possibly anything else of The Avengers Series 1, along with the 4 Rediffusion Shows of this thread...It Happened Like This, Five O Clock Club, Mr. Aitch
and Late Show London, held in the Goodge Street tunnel's now being used to store films and videotape, as stated on the following link..

www.underground-history.co.uk/shelters.php

thanks Neil for placing that link on the Informer Query thread, I wonder if anyone will look into this and find out just what is held down there, hopefully there
are ABC, Rediffusion shows, beside perhaps early LWT and Thames material.

Interesting to hear Neil, Ian Hendry was a huge fan of jazz, yes I can imagine him being very appreciative of that. Didn't know he knew Stirling Moss and that
Moss had that cameo in The Beauty Jungle 1964, whatever the thread and in whichever the Show, there always seems to be ties and links along the way, or
is this just a picture of that time..thanks for adding all of above to your website Neil, which is a fine tribute and shows well too, the others he worked with..
welcome aboard the forum Neil and please keep posting, if and where you can...

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

18/04/1967, Mr Aitch, 'And Never the Twain Shall Meet', audio only.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G_swmt55NU