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Post by petercheck on May 19, 2021 10:44:23 GMT
Had a music Teacher that worked in a music store many years ago. Told me he wouldn’t let Jerry Lee rent a piano. He said you can buy it. By he knew what he would do to it. Set it on fire! haha He has never set a piano on fire, despite what we read today (though to be fair it was probably Jerry Lee Lewis himself who started that rumour!).
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Post by garystevens on May 19, 2021 13:58:52 GMT
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Post by petercheck on May 19, 2021 15:43:52 GMT
How is that proof? The first one is Dennis Quaid setting the piano on fire in the semi-fictional 'Great Balls of Fire' movie, and the other is a '90s news item repeating the oft-told myth (it's not the only thing wrong with that article - as well as getting his 2 son's names the wrong way round, the "eleven year old" that drowned - Steve - was born in 1959 and died in 1962 aged 3!). This incident supposedly happened at The Brooklyn Paramount Theatre in New York on a major 1958 package tour, where the press were eager to jump on any controversy in order to rubbish rock 'n' roll, yet there are NO contemporary reports mentioning it. I've worked with several Jerry Lee Lewis biographers (my name is in the credits of at least 3 of the books on him), and they've ALL thoroughly researched this to no avail. Additionally, J. W. Brown (his bass player and father-in-law at the time) also insists that it is untrue. If you ask Jerry Lee Lewis whether it happened, sometimes he'll say yes and other times he'll threaten to kill you for talking cr*p, but, trust me, it never happened.
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Post by garystevens on May 19, 2021 19:20:02 GMT
Ooh, put yer handbag away Peter, there's no need to get the hump!
Did I offend you in some way?
And do not have a go at me, I didn't write the bleedin article did I.
So you 'helped' with at least 3 JLL biog's and got a name check, well bully for you, I'm really pleased for you.
Big headed statement or what, 'Look at me everybody' 'I've done this' 'I've done that' 'I got me name in the back of a book'
Big deal, a lot of people on this board have done a lot of things for the good of lost/Archive TV, but we don't big ourselves up or constantly boast about it.
Seems strange that the piano fire story is replicated in a semi autobiograpical film about the subject, which is why I included the Youtube link.
And despite what you might think, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong.
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Post by petercheck on May 19, 2021 19:39:16 GMT
Not offended at all, and I'm hardly going to brag about having my name in the back of a book when I've got my name on the FRONT of 8 of them. Just pointing out that I really know my stuff when it comes to Jerry Lee Lewis.
Anyway...
There are lots of fictional bits in that movie. I was an extra in a scene filmed at the Hammersmith Odeon in 1989, where they (supposedly) recreated one of his infamous 1958 London concerts after the news about his marriage broke. Not only did they have someone push a pram out onstage, which definitely didn't happen, but they had him performing 'I'm On Fire' - a song that wasn't recorded or even written until 1964! So, even before I saw the movie, I knew it wasn't going to be any good.
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Post by johnpoole on May 20, 2021 11:03:33 GMT
Maybe the story about Jerry Lee and Chuck first appeared in Nick Tosches 1982 book "Hellfire"? From a 2006 interview with the author - Q. You took liberties in recreating key events in Lewis's life from your own imagination. Did you have any concerns about making those leaps? A. Man, I just wrote. www.theguardian.com/music/2006/jun/18/11
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Post by petercheck on May 20, 2021 13:03:25 GMT
Maybe the story about Jerry Lee and Chuck first appeared in Nick Tosches 1982 book "Hellfire"? From a 2006 interview with the author - Q. You took liberties in recreating key events in Lewis's life from your own imagination. Did you have any concerns about making those leaps? A. Man, I just wrote. www.theguardian.com/music/2006/jun/18/11Yes, more semi-fiction! I'm not sure off-hand when the story first appeared though. The GBOF movie seemed to be partly based on Nick's book, and partly on Jerry's ex-wife's Myra Lewis' marginally more accurate book. I wish someone like Peter Guralnick would write a book on him (Jerry Lee Lewis himself has "written" two autobiographies - i.e., talked b*ll*cks into a tape recorder, but again they should be taken with a very large dollop of salt!).
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Post by Thomas Walsh on May 21, 2021 3:48:05 GMT
Well in fairness books about paedophiles, albeit talented ones, don't tend to sell very well.
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Post by petercheck on May 21, 2021 7:13:33 GMT
Well in fairness books about paedophiles, albeit talented ones, don't tend to sell very well. I'm only interested in the music. So my favourite books on Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley, James Brown and any other deeply flawed human beings tend to be pretty much about just that (as do my own books, i.e. a chapter I wrote on Gary Glitter focused almost exclusively on how good/bad certain records and TV performances were!).
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Post by Thomas Walsh on May 21, 2021 7:15:56 GMT
Fair point Peter. They're all flawed but some are just 1% over the acceptance of flaw.
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Post by Stephen Byers on May 21, 2021 8:47:53 GMT
an outstanding collection of clips. there must be many gems in the dick clark archive !. The archive site has gone ...
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Post by Jonathan McKey on Jun 9, 2021 12:52:59 GMT
Yeah DCP changed it and took it down and replaced it with a licensing website that is only accessible by the man in charge of licensing. What's the point of having a whole website for something only 1-2 people can access? The only way to see any clips of the shows really is John Scott / NRRArchives channel. Speaking of his channel, I took some of his clips and overdubbed the songs, no not like the way people just get rid of the original sound and just put the song in it. I match the new song with the existing song so there is clapping. Me doing this has made me discover how cheap Dick Clark was with all his shows. He used cheap reel to reel decks and the thing was so cheap that the motor was slower than it's supposed to be so I have so slow down the new version so it lines up.
But anyway, here is the link: Jonathan McKey
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Post by petercheck on Jun 9, 2021 12:55:05 GMT
Yeah DCP changed it and took it down and replaced it with a licensing website that is only accessible by the man in charge of licensing. What's the point of having a whole website for something only 1-2 people can access? The only way to see any clips of the shows really is John Scott / NRRArchives channel. Speaking of his channel, I took some of his clips and overdubbed the songs, no not like the way people just get rid of the original sound and just put the song in it. I match the new song with the existing song so there is clapping. Me doing this has made me discover how cheap Dick Clark was with all his shows. He used cheap reel to reel decks and the thing was so cheap that the motor was slower than it's supposed to be so I have so slow down the new version so it lines up.
But anyway, here is the link: Jonathan McKey The link just takes me back to this forum.
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Post by Colin Anderton on Jun 9, 2021 13:18:04 GMT
Yeah DCP changed it and took it down and replaced it with a licensing website that is only accessible by the man in charge of licensing. What's the point of having a whole website for something only 1-2 people can access? The only way to see any clips of the shows really is John Scott / NRRArchives channel. Speaking of his channel, I took some of his clips and overdubbed the songs, no not like the way people just get rid of the original sound and just put the song in it. I match the new song with the existing song so there is clapping. Me doing this has made me discover how cheap Dick Clark was with all his shows. He used cheap reel to reel decks and the thing was so cheap that the motor was slower than it's supposed to be so I have so slow down the new version so it lines up.
But anyway, here is the link: Jonathan McKey The link just takes me back to this forum. Jonathan, I think you'll find the speed variations are far more likely to have been caused by the fact that these recordings are probably several generations removed from the original tapes, and were due to sloppy work somewhere along the line.
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Post by Jonathan McKey on Jun 10, 2021 15:06:13 GMT
Yeah DCP changed it and took it down and replaced it with a licensing website that is only accessible by the man in charge of licensing. What's the point of having a whole website for something only 1-2 people can access? The only way to see any clips of the shows really is John Scott / NRRArchives channel. Speaking of his channel, I took some of his clips and overdubbed the songs, no not like the way people just get rid of the original sound and just put the song in it. I match the new song with the existing song so there is clapping. Me doing this has made me discover how cheap Dick Clark was with all his shows. He used cheap reel to reel decks and the thing was so cheap that the motor was slower than it's supposed to be so I have so slow down the new version so it lines up.
But anyway, here is the link: Jonathan McKey The link just takes me back to this forum. Weird. I'll try reposting it.
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