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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 19:29:42 GMT
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Post by Alan Turrell on Oct 8, 2012 22:47:45 GMT
For anyone interested in 50s popular music and rock'n'roll there's many rare clips here truly magnificent.
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Post by dennywilson on Oct 9, 2012 0:48:35 GMT
Wow! These are a nice find - only a handful of episodes are going around in collector circles, but not in this quality.
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Post by johnflynn on Oct 9, 2012 1:27:07 GMT
It looks like he was able to download them from here www.dickclarklicensing.com/just type beechnut in the search and just about every clip he posted is there... hope DC productions don't ban him!
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Post by dennywilson on Oct 9, 2012 8:35:39 GMT
It looks like he was able to download them from here www.dickclarklicensing.com/just type beechnut in the search and just about every clip he posted is there... hope DC productions don't ban him! Considering how few of these shows are circulating among collectors, you might be right.
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Post by garyfreeman on Oct 9, 2012 9:21:05 GMT
an outstanding collection of clips. there must be many gems in the dick clark archive !.
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Oct 9, 2012 9:45:49 GMT
It looks like he was able to download them from here www.dickclarklicensing.com/just type beechnut in the search and just about every clip he posted is there... hope DC productions don't ban him! Search 'American Bandstand' and there's so many clips I'd like to see.
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Post by John Scott / NRRArchives on Oct 10, 2012 10:25:15 GMT
Hello, and greetings to all. I am the one who posted all of those Beech-Nut shows on You Tube. Here's the story: I used to work for Dick Clark Media Archives. In 1979-1980, we transferred all the kinnys to 3/4" tapes. From those transfers, hundreds of 5 minute VHS tapes (which were standard at the time) were used to make 'archival' reference tapes of each of the individual performances. If a media outlet needed to screen an artist's performance, a copy from the VHS clip tape (with a time code) would be made and sent out. I still have all the original tapes. These are what were used to upload all the assorted clips to the on-line Media Archives site. They are for reference purposes only and it was much less expensive than making all new telecine transfers for the site alone. The DCMA has most of these titles posted. When I posted them to You Tube, it was not my original intention. I had only planned to upload a couple of Eddie Cochran clips to commemorate his birthday, but then I just felt the compulsion to keep going and wound up uloading some 50 or 60 artists. I don't mind sharing the music and vintage performances that many of us love so much. It's not my desire to pirate or SELL anything, just to share. Some years back I trusted a couple of collectors who begged me to PLEASE let them have some shows for their 'personal' collections. I have since come to find them released on home-made DVD's or what looks like 5th generation VHS copies uploaded to You Tube. That annoys me. However, I still don't mind sharing with those who have a genuine love for the music and vintage performances. There is much more to be uploaded on my You Tube site. I also have the Bandstand tapes. I'm not concerned that Dick Clark Productions will bother me, I still work with them. Only the recordings can be an issue. A few clips have been blocked due to the record companies, so if my account gets the boot, it'll be because of the records. I don't foresee it happening, so I'm not worried. Anyway, I hope you all enjoy the clips. Please feel free to join my page. Many thanks for any of you who have left nice comments. It is greatly appreciated and makes all the effort worth while. Feel free to send me any comments or questions you may have. Regards, John.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 11:18:33 GMT
Thank you John for popping in and explaining where the material is sourced from. Also a big thanks from me for posting them. Up till now we could see some bits and pieces from the DC archive but always in very washed out fuzzy copies so suddenly seeing that and plenty more in wonderful crystal clear quality has been amazing. Especially for those of us in the UK that never got to see any of that material nor even knew just what still existed. I look most forward to future postings.
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Post by Alan Turrell on Oct 10, 2012 12:39:59 GMT
Thanks very much John for posting these wonderful clips i really wish that here in the u.k that we had saved more of our musical heritage from this period , i was wondering if you had all 3 seasons of the show and if so will you be posting them .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 13:04:42 GMT
Thanks very much John for posting these wonderful clips i really wish that here in the u.k that we had saved more of our musical heritage from this period , i was wondering if you had all 3 seasons of the show and if so will you be posting them . Indeed. Any idea of how much actually survives of American Bandstand? There have been conflicting guesses over the decades with some saying not much is left of the b+w era and most of the earliest colour shows are in b+w only and others guessing that most of them were archived and barely ever been touched.
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Post by John Scott / NRRArchives on Oct 10, 2012 15:06:47 GMT
Hello everybody. I can't seem to find a way to respond to individual posts, so I'll have to respond in a general posting here. It's true, there's not much in the way of American Bandstand. And some of them are not complete shows. Sometimes only 1 of 3 reels exist of an episode. So when Dick used to put together a Bandstand Anniversary special, it would seem like he had everything under the sun. In reality, there isn't much. I mean, yes, there is alot of great footage and wonderful shows, but not nearly what people might expect. When it comes to the later episodes, yes, they all exist in 1" tape. I guess it depends on the person. I don't consider the shows from the 70's and 80's to be collectable I guess merely for my preference in music. My favorites would be from the 50's through the early 60's. It was great when we transferred the Beech-Nut shows to 3/4" U-matic tapes back in 1979-80. I kept a complete set of the VHS performance tapes. That's what was used for the DCMA website, so mine are a little less 'clipped'. I know everybody is looking for Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens in Dick's archives, but he really doesn't have those episodes. Even Dick doesn't have the complete set. He only has the films he has because back in (approximately 1971) ABC was cleaning out their warehouse and those were stacked to be dumped. A thoughtful person at ABC contacted Dick and told him that several large cartons of his old TV shows are slated for the scrap house and asked him if he wanted them instead. Dick was elated, and thus, this is how he has the somewhat limited collection he has. He was a saver of material things (papers, pictures, mementos), but he never sought to contractually be given a copy of each episode every week (or every day for Bandstand). In a way, while we all look back and think "Ha! I'd have insisted on an actual TAPE of every episode", it really wasn't practicle back then, and only if you wanted to drag out a 16mm projector and show it to friends and family, it wasn't thought to do. Nobody thought about the future of 50's notalgia, home video recorders and the desire to see these LIVE shows again. Nowadays we all know what we'd do if we had VCR's and could go back in time. I have seen some great vintage UK performances of artists like Tommy Steele and Cliff Richard. So in some cases things were saved. Here in the USA, the networks were guilty of the same abandonment. They were merely heavy reels of old films that would never be re-used, so they were dumped. The 2" quad videos were wiped and re-used. I have some 2" quad network broadcasts from CBS, but not of any music shows (unfortunatey). By the way, how strange. My original post seems to have re-appeared. It was deleted (because I only had NRRArchives and not my personal name - which I didn't realise one had to do) so I re-posted it. Now my original is back and the re-post is gone. Hmmm. Oh well, it's all good. Anyway, the original American Bandstand ran 90 minutes each day (in Philadelphia) and 60 minutes elsewhere. During all that time, there were only a few singers that would appear. The majority was dancing, talking to the kids and rating records. It was the Beech-Nut show that was almost a non-stop parade of great talent. I still have to get to storage and dig out more tapes. There are multiple more episodes that either Dick never had, or are not part of the DCMA site. So, albeit a little slow perhaps, there is much more to come. I know there are many 60's fans out there and I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate those posts. The wild go-go dancers and hair flying about just doesn't blend well with the subdued manner of the kids on the Beech-Nut show. I might start a separate You Tube channel for the 60's Bandstand performances. As far as the 3 season's of Beech-Nut shows, there are episodes from each season, and yes, I'll be posting all the performances I have, little by little. Now there were a few sad occasions where some kinescopes either had sprocket damage or very, very bad splicing all through a performance. Thus an additional performance by an artist on the same day may have never been transferred. So if you check any on-line lists of guest stars on the show and see, for example "Ooh, Eddie Cochran did an interview and another song" yet only one performance is posted, it's because the other couldn't be transferred (back in 1979). Technology has changed now and sprocket damage may not always be an issue. So it's possible that some of those kinny's can be re-transferred at some time. Also, if there is only 1 of 2 performances posted, the uploads are not in any particular order, so it may still be coming with additional uploads. I don't want to crash the system by writing too much in a single post, but I'll stick around and continue posting on this site. I really like it. It's a great way to communicate with those who truly have a passion for historic televsion without the sole greed to sell. It's great to be here and thank you Phillip and Alan for your welcoming messages. Take care everybody. Any questions, feel free to ask.
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Post by Rob Moss on Oct 10, 2012 15:16:37 GMT
John, could you break up your posts into smaller paragraphs, please - that was very hard to read!
Thanks! :-)
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Post by John Scott / NRRArchives on Oct 10, 2012 15:29:22 GMT
Sorry Rob. I will do exactly that going forward. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 15:38:37 GMT
Again, thank you John for your very detailed response. That is hugely appreciated and gives a much clearer picture of the situation regarding Dick's archive. It is astonishing this 50's footage has survived at all since by comparison here with UK TV archives we have pitifully very little pop music wise from before 1964. Am absolutely loving seeing these priceless performances and look most forward to whatever will follow.
Again, thank you for sharing the videos and for your time to speak with us here.
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