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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 20:47:36 GMT
Yes, by saying NTSC I was just using short-hand for U.S. system lineage when, to be clear what I was meaning, I should actually have said NTSC / 525 line, which is a discernibly softer picture than 625. It's just a shame the 625 PAL material on the release had to go this route and not stay on it's native format (as there's quite a bit of it).
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jan 5, 2012 21:37:00 GMT
I must say that I prefer the Dutch collection as at least most of these performances weren't already readily available. As well produced and put together "Look Through Any Window" was in my opinion it was too reliant on the often seen and easily available Beat Club and Beat Beat Beat performances that most fans of 60's music already have!
One strange point about both of these comps was the admission of "I Got A Way Of My Own" from Popside which is part of Reelin' In The Years archive, it's an excellent clip!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 22:55:08 GMT
I went for 'The Dutch Collection' first mainly because of the inclusion of four Top Of The Pops performances. Footage from 45, Sez Les & Eddy Go Round and the fact it's in PAL made this the winner. But I must get the Reelin' In The Years' disc next.
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Post by nicadare on Sept 20, 2012 21:53:50 GMT
Watched the Hollies "Look through any Window" DVD for the first time today and have to say it's nowhere near as good as previous releases. In my opinion the Dutch Hollies DVD beats it hands down. The picture quality is very poor in places, especially Studio Hamburg's 'Beatclub', having the German Beatclub box set I know how good the original footage is. I assume they were given poor masters to work with. The PAL to NTSC transfer has done the picture quality no favours either, I think all the unnecessary rendering is the DVDs downfall, the Dutch effort in PAL is the winner here. Should of used a higher bitrate. my.jetscreenshot.com/11869/20120920-2wpl-135kb.jpgStill love the Dusty & Small Faces RITY DVDs though!
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Sept 21, 2012 12:21:31 GMT
The positive side of the RITY productions are the interviews with the surviving members of the bands. Being able to watch the whole clips as a bonus separate from the interviews. For anyone who has the Beat Club and Beat, Beat, Beat DVD's, it's naturally going to feel repetitive. The Small Faces DVD made up for this by having 'Colour Me Pop' which most people had in poor video quality so this was a good selling point. As well as the Dusty & Small Faces releases, also enjoyed The Miracles DVD, interesting interviews and a lot of US footage that I've never seen before. It's a pity The Pretty Things DVD never got to be released, would have liked to have seen decent quality French TV footage. As for the PAL / NTSC thing, most music DVD's I've bought recently that's been made for the US / Europe market has been NTSC. The last one being 'The Kinks at the BBC' which of course isn't PAL even though you'd think it would be!
I thought 9,800 is around the maximum bit rate for a DVD.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 17:22:04 GMT
Where can one acquire the Dutch version???
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 18:16:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 18:18:36 GMT
Thank you, Laurence ... bought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 18:28:05 GMT
Good purchase! It's a nice selection. Neither this nor the Look Through... set are definitive Hollies collections (they both overlook too much important '60s colour VT stuff to be that) but both are worth investing in for different reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 9:32:31 GMT
I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm developing quite a liking for The Hollies, largely as a result of my passion for CSNY & also for Tony Hicks' guitar playing - a much under-rated musician. Apparently, he has a world class collection of guitars.
I don't suppose any commercial collection could ever be described as definitive. The record companies always hold something back so they can add it to the next collection ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 9:55:47 GMT
I expect in this instance it was a case of the owners of the TV footage wanting too much money to licence the clips, rather than anything else. It's a shame because there is a lot of dynamite Hollies video from way back - as with a lot of bands - which we may never get the chance to see (at least in anything other than awful quality). I doubt there'll be a volume two of those releases.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 9:58:18 GMT
I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'm developing quite a liking for The Hollies, largely as a result of my passion for CSNY & also for Tony Hicks' guitar playing - a much under-rated musician. Apparently, he has a world class collection of guitars. I don't suppose any commercial collection could ever be described as definitive. The record companies always hold something back so they can add it to the next collection ... Yes, The Hollies were a fine band with top class musicians - Tony Hicks is very under-rated but has played down his contributions to such a degree he's barely ever given recognition. Bobby Elliott is for me and many, the finest drummer of his era - utterly solid yet adventurous and experimental. As for record companies holding stuff back on official DVD's that I think is largely down to clearance issues since some companies demand ridiculous amounts for the use of their footage. Try licensing some footage or music from Dave Clark - I've read he charges a minimum of a quarter of a million pounds - hence why his stuff never gets used because nobody will pay that much money. There were criticisms of the RITY Hollies DVD with some wanting to know why the late 60's BBC Colour material wasn't used. That was because their aim was to cover the hits as opposed to album tracks hence the precious Bobbie Gentry Show footage was not used. The Hollies had that many hits, there was plenty to be getting on with! Some in America even grumbled that it didn't feature "Pay You Back With Interest" which was some sort of a hit over there, and certainly one of their finest moments - the reason was simple - there is no footage of them performing it!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 10:07:55 GMT
There's a lot of '60s colour VT of hits as well, Phillip. For some reason much was left out though (again, probably due to cost of clips). There were more obscure tracks included on the RITY set though, so I don't think something would be omitted because it wasn't a single. You get a more rounded picture of a group if you show all sides to them; with The Hollies, their acclaimed (but unappreciated generally) psychedelic period is quite overlooked and only briefly touched on with this set, for example.
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Post by mlcummins on Oct 1, 2012 19:31:42 GMT
There's a lot of '60s colour VT of hits as well, Phillip. Is there? I'd be curious to know about this. Off the top of my head I can only think of their appearences on The Smothers Brothers (Carrie Anne) and the Mike Douglas Show (On A Carousel, Jennifer Eccles) as colour performances of hits which were not used on this DVD.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2012 9:46:11 GMT
Off the top of my head, Jennifer Eccles from Hollywood Palace is another. They also performed Butterfly and Dear Eloise on those other shows. All this stuff should have been on the DVD set really as it's prime Hollies. The releases as they stand relied too heavily on b/w film promos to make up the numbers when they didn't actually need to do that.
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