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Post by reelinintheyears on Oct 12, 2011 15:51:40 GMT
....and David any news on forthcoming British Invasion DVD'S, particularly The Pretty Things? Dear Bob, The Hollies IS part of the British Invasion series. As for the Pretty Things we hit a financial snag. Nobody seems to want to pay for it to come out and there still are a number of costs to finish it for release. Not sure when (or if) it will ever come out. But we are trying. Thanks, David
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Post by reelinintheyears on Oct 12, 2011 16:08:45 GMT
I'm just curious to know one thing, David (I mentioned it earlier in the thread but it probably got overlooked with the direction the discussion took). Can you enlighten us as to the format for the Hollies DVD set? Is the set region 1 or 0 as released in the UK? Also, is the material on it native PAL that's been directly encoded to region 1 / 0 or have the PAL masters been converted first to NTSC? Just interested to know. Hello Laurence, I have no idea about the format because the label (Eagle Rock) handles that department but I can answer your other question. The clips were transferred to NTSC from PAL at the best facility house in the country (Fotokem). Remember, I'm here in the States so to edit in PAL would have been astronomically expensive. Thanks for the support with everything and please don't ban Sergey. I would hate to be the cause of that for anyone (even someone that has personally insulted me). I did want to to address one point he made concerning why would I bother to comment on him or anyone else and it's quite simple. As we all know the music industry is in the toilet and one of the few ways to get real information on a product is through the internet. Anyone can voice their opinion but when it sits with no comment it can be perceived as the truth to some. I feel it's important to address things that I see that are factually inaccurate because people do read these and make decisions based on opinions being passed off as facts. If someone says "I hate your work and you make the worst films ever" I'll never comment on that because that is 100% an opinion but when someone says that the work you did was a "fake" and that you are "Unprofessional" that falls WAY out of the realm of opinion and needs to be addressed. Thanks for listening and understanding my position and letting me take up space on your site. As a thanks if (offline) you send me your address I will send you out a Hollies & Ray Charles DVD (In the PAL format). Best, David Peck Reelin' In The Years Productions www.reelinintheyears.com
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 18:09:34 GMT
No problem, David. Keep contributing to the forum!
By the way, any chance of a volume on Manfred Mann or The Zombies? Two more favourite groups of mine that usually get forgotten in the DVD stakes (I'll be going to see Colin Blunstone and Rod Argent on tour in November too!)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 18:21:49 GMT
I have no idea about the format because the label (Eagle Rock) handles that department but I can answer your other question. The clips were transferred to NTSC from PAL at the best facility house in the country (Fotokem). Remember, I'm here in the States so to edit in PAL would have been astronomically expensive. I don't want to be too critical as I do appreciate these archive music releases. But it does bug me that PAL material gets released in the NTSC format when we all know it is inferior. So how come clips are transferred from PAL to NTSC, then issued in the PAL format for the UK again? Doesn't all the converting back and forth degrade the footage?
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Post by nicadare on Oct 12, 2011 19:27:08 GMT
I do believe that like the previous Reeling Back The Years discs "The Hollies" DVD will be made in the PAL format for Europe and the NTSC format for the U.S.A. Below is the DVD description from the Amazon (UK) website. You can rest assured that there will not of been any unnecessary re-encoding that would compromise the video quality. Just been watching some of The Small Faces & Dusty 'Reeling' DVDs, the quality of the Dusty Springfield 'I Just Don't Know What to do With Myself' footage is outstanding, crystal clear & clean looking black and white. I do have the luxury of watching on a Sony 32" CRT tube with the proper 4:3 picture ratio, I know many of you poor souls have to watch on your plasma's or LCDs in 16:9 Format: PAL Language English Region: All Regions Number of discs: 1 Classification: Exempt Studio: Eagle Vision DVD Release Date: 3 Oct 2011 Run Time: 120 minutes
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Post by Colin Anderton on Oct 13, 2011 9:53:35 GMT
I received my Hollies disc a couple of days ago, and after reading the comments here I've taken another look at the box - it says it's in NTSC format, unfortunately.
I guess the cuts from the Tom Jones shows were shot in NTSC, weren't they? I know they shot in PAL and NTSC for British and U.S. markets.
As I'm sure many of you will know, the trouble with film in NTSC is that an extra (repeat) frame is added after every fourth frame, which causes an irritating jerk to the motion. It can be removed in an editing programme, but it's a time-consuming process.
By the way, this is absolutely no criticism of the production itself. I haven't had time to watch it all yet, but I can tell it's brilliant, as usual.
Congratulations to David for another job very very well done!
Colin.
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Post by nicadare on Oct 13, 2011 17:32:46 GMT
Probably a silly question Colin & feel free to tell me to mind my own business but where did you buy your Hollies DVD? It's advertised as PAL on certain websites, just finding out about the previous releases. www.amazon.co.uk/Hollies-Look-Through-Window-1963-1975/dp/B005BAKTY6The only logical reason why it would be released in NTSC is if most of the stock footage was sourced from American TV. Dusty Springfield and Herman's Hermits were certainly PAL 25 fps.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Oct 13, 2011 17:52:22 GMT
I Bought my copy at Amazon (UK) It shows as NTSC Attachments:
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Post by nicadare on Oct 13, 2011 18:00:11 GMT
I Bought my copy at Amazon (UK) It shows as NTSC Thanks for the info Paul, a most curious development.
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Post by Colin Anderton on Oct 13, 2011 18:06:37 GMT
Yes, Nic - mine was also bought from Amazon. It's NTSC, although I have checked all the four "British Invasion" boxset discs, and they're all PAL.
Colin.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 18:16:41 GMT
I just checked my 'British Invasion' boxset and whilst it says PAL it does also state the discs are Region 0. Surely if they were true PAL they would be Region 2?
Not sure why we are so confused as David said this earlier about the Hollies DVD. "The clips were transferred to NTSC from PAL at the best facility house in the country (Fotokem). Remember, I'm here in the States so to edit in PAL would have been astronomically expensive".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 18:22:07 GMT
Not necessarily. You can have region 2 (or 0) encoded NTSC, for instance, which is why I was wondering about this issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 14:28:17 GMT
I got the 'Dutch Collection' CD/DVD for christmas and want to get this new collection but can't find any list of the footage on it. Can anyone list (or point me in the direction of one) what performances are on this new DVD and more importantly where the clips are lifted from. All the tracklists I can find just list the songs. I'd like to work out just how much is different to the 'Dutch Collection' set. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2012 15:04:18 GMT
I don't have the DVD to hand here for a listing but there is a lot of different material between the two sets (a few duplications here and there but not that many). The material comes from programmes like Beat Club, Beat Beat Beat, This Is Tom Jones, a few early cinema "short" appearances etc. Both sets are worth having although neither can be called truly definitive as some amazing '60s colour TV appearances are not included. Still, that gives some space for a volume two of Look Through ..!
The Dutch Collection relies a bit too heavily on filmed promos for my liking but Look Through Any Window uses a lot more actual TV footage (so the latter is the best of the two for me,even though the set is NTSC / region 0 for PAL originated material). Look... also has very sharp restored sound, which is another bonus.
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jan 5, 2012 16:26:32 GMT
I have no idea about the format because the label (Eagle Rock) handles that department but I can answer your other question. The clips were transferred to NTSC from PAL at the best facility house in the country (Fotokem). Remember, I'm here in the States so to edit in PAL would have been astronomically expensive. I don't want to be too critical as I do appreciate these archive music releases. But it does bug me that PAL material gets released in the NTSC format when we all know it is inferior. So how come clips are transferred from PAL to NTSC, then issued in the PAL format for the UK again? Doesn't all the converting back and forth degrade the footage? Working in the digital domain, degrading the footage is quite hard to do even after many generations. NTSC is not necessarily inferior as PAL has its own problems.Where NTSC falls down is being transmitted over the air where it can drift- but in a closed circuit it can be the equal of PAL.
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