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Post by Ross Mann on Sept 5, 2011 17:39:17 GMT
Ah huh! Awesome news, I always thought there would be something else floating around out there. Even though it ain't missing just goes to show that we will probably never know what's out there just waiting to be unearthed.
Seems stuff of all different genres is turning up lately. I'm not sure when this occurred but the previously incomplete Australian film "The Story of the Kelly Gang" (one of the first feature length movies ever to be made down here) turned up in a rubbish skip or something like that (I can't quite remember) from a deceased estate, so there you go aye.
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Post by Ewan Montague on Sept 7, 2011 16:37:23 GMT
Do Kal have a presence at the British Film Collectors Conventions? www.bfcc.biz/I should imagine so but I'd rather be wrong than not say |
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Sept 7, 2011 18:10:16 GMT
Do Kal have a presence at the British Film Collectors Conventions? Can't speak for them, but I'm at every one. Paul |
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Post by Ewan Montague on Sept 9, 2011 16:12:00 GMT
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Post by davidstead on Nov 22, 2011 21:03:58 GMT
hi just a query,
Anyone know what's supposed to be being shown at the BFI's missing believed wiped on the 10th Dec?
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Post by davidstead on Nov 22, 2011 23:54:34 GMT
Just to add,
The BFI booklet says something of interest to sci-fi fans and various rumours seem to circulating, but none seem to have any basis in fact.
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Post by LanceM on Nov 23, 2011 4:35:02 GMT
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Post by Dave Green on Nov 23, 2011 6:46:08 GMT
One of the reasons I'd like to get the print of 'Conspiracy' checked over is that it may well be a suppressed field recording, made during the first broadcast. The copies we used for the DVD came from stored field film recording negatives made in 1967. We discovered when we did the original restoration on 'The War Machines' that the copies returned from Nigeria were in fact made afresh in 1968 for the transmission in New Zealand. These are substantially more zoomed in than the original part two 'off-air' which was returned by David Gee in the late 1970's. So I want to see if this print has more active picture information, although the overall quality will be inferior. Paul Hi Paul, Has there been any more information on whether the print is a suppressed or a stored field print? Regards, Dave |
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Nov 23, 2011 10:11:43 GMT
Hi Dave,
The 'Conspiracy' film is indeed a stored field recording, but in fact turns out to be what looks like a contact print from either a neg or another print. Steve Roberts who viewed it on a telecine said it looked "dupey", so good condition film, but not a great copy.
Nevertheless, a nice thing to find and it would look perfectly acceptable projected.
Re: 'The Sky at Night', yes, the current plan is to screen either the entire thing or an extract at MBW, but I have to have final discussions with the BFI about that. It will depend on what 'The Sky at Night' team intend to do with it in the next programme, which will be broadcast on December 4th.
Regards,
Paul
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:22:04 GMT
hi just a query, Anyone know what's supposed to be being shown at the BFI's missing believed wiped on the 10th Dec? Just a quick correction, David: MBW is on Sunday 11th Dec, not 10th. Just thought i'd mention it in case anyone is planning to go from here. I'll be there myself! |
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Post by davidstead on Nov 23, 2011 17:32:44 GMT
Thx Lance, Paul & Laurence,
I was under the impression that the BFI showing was likely to be that 'Sky at Night' find and glad Paul has clarified that on here. Slight faux pas on the date, but was going on the date I was told (I don't attend large gatherings these days, due to stress etc). I thought I would ask on here about what they were showing as several unfounded rumours seem to be circulating about missing who's.
Thx again,
Davidxx
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Nov 23, 2011 17:43:51 GMT
...several unfounded rumours seem to be circulating about missing who's. Heh! Well, everyone knows my motto here. I believe it when I see it! Regardless, I think everyone who can should be at MBW. It's a great event and needs supporting. Cheers, Paul |
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Post by Dave Green on Nov 24, 2011 6:07:19 GMT
Hi Dave, The 'Conspiracy' film is indeed a stored field recording, but in fact turns out to be what looks like a contact print from either a neg or another print. Steve Roberts who viewed it on a telecine said it looked "dupey", so good condition film, but not a great copy. Nevertheless, a nice thing to find and it would look perfectly acceptable projected. Regards, Paul Thanks for the info Paul, every print has a history and may help to find more episodes. Just one more question - from the recoveries made in the UK, are the prints more often than not stored field recordings? If so I may be barking up the wrong tree (most likely) but could it indicate that however the prints left the BBC, someone (more likely a group of people) was/were specifically "relocating" stored field prints when they were finished with. I suppose the evidence to support this may come from the actual number of UK recoveries and if the recoveries share similar attributes as they were probably "relocated" at about the same time. You're probably way ahead of me but is it worth locating the relatives of the family that lived in the house? They may know of more material or how the material came into the families possession? All theory and speculation but then you never know what may lead to more recoveries |
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Post by Steven Sigel on Nov 24, 2011 15:06:54 GMT
I seriously doubt that anyone who ended up with prints had any idea whether they were stored field or suppressed field recordings - it's not something that most people would know anything about. You need to be an expert to tell the difference. I also seriously doubt there was any sort of conspiracy to "relocate" prints at all. Most likely they escaped at random - engineers took some home, possibly someone grabbed them out of dumpsters, etc (a friend of mine got 200 episodes of "I love Lucy" from a dumpster in the 70s).
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Post by Dave Green on Nov 24, 2011 19:52:56 GMT
I seriously doubt that anyone who ended up with prints had any idea whether they were stored field or suppressed field recordings - it's not something that most people would know anything about. You need to be an expert to tell the difference. I also seriously doubt there was any sort of conspiracy to "relocate" prints at all. Most likely they escaped at random - engineers took some home, possibly someone grabbed them out of dumpsters, etc (a friend of mine got 200 episodes of "I love Lucy" from a dumpster in the 70s). I agree, no one would know what type of recording they were but I was wondering if the prints recovered from the UK in general were more stored or suppressed, possibly indicating they left the BBC at the same time albeit via different people. If this was the case then could there be a trail to more people or more material? It's good to hypothesize |
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