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Post by dennywilson on May 28, 2011 8:00:03 GMT
But if those NZ Pertwee episodes were junked in 84, the surely that's a non-point. NZBC would have known that the BBC already had them and were therefore redundant. My understanding is that only Spearhead was junked because it was a redundant b/w copy. Silurians was sent to London in case the prints were better copies than those already held; eps 2 and 3 had censor cuts to them so would presumably have been dumped. Jon But didn't BBC Enterprises still hold the F/R 16mm Negatives to all the Pertwee episodes tele-recorded for seasons 7-11? ("Silurians" to "Time Warrior")
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Post by Jon Preddle on Jul 31, 2011 1:55:31 GMT
I was able to source that clip for you Jon.It was posted on YouTube some time ago,however the account has now been terminated.However,I was able to find the same clip (even has the now-defunct account ident before the clip starts).It was posted on a Bee Gees fan website: beegees.multiply.com/video/item/166Thanks, Lance. I will see if I can find an airdate for this broadcast. Jon I've checked the NZ TV listings magazine The Listener for all of 1971, but couldn't find any broadcasts for this concert on any of the four regional stations. I'd need further details - eg the month - to find when this concert and broadcast took place. Jon
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Aug 10, 2011 20:47:09 GMT
Having met an ex bbc cameraman who filmed the Ealing broadway sequence for Spearhead on a sunday in 1969, I am a lot more confident that stuff is held privately. Many of his colleagues helped themselves to film prints that were marked for destruction. he even told me he had returned prints back to the beeb. Sadly for us he was only interested in footage of trains!!
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Post by John Wall on Aug 10, 2011 20:59:05 GMT
Having met an ex bbc cameraman who filmed the Ealing broadway sequence for Spearhead on a sunday in 1969, I am a lot more confident that stuff is held privately. Many of his colleagues helped themselves to film prints that were marked for destruction. he even told me he had returned prints back to the beeb. Sadly for us he was only interested in footage of trains!! Considering some of the episodes that have been found in really weird places I wouldn't be surprised if there were prints in attics, cupboards under the stairs, etc. The episode of Evil of the Daleks turned up at a car boot sale - and I don't think that anybody traced its route to there. Was that purloined from a skip somewhere ? It could then have been sold at a car boot sale by someone clearing out after a death. There's nothing inherently implausible here - the only question is how many people half inching prints preferred Dr Who to planes, trains and automobiles....
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Post by Richard Bignell on Aug 10, 2011 21:39:28 GMT
The episode of Evil of the Daleks turned up at a car boot sale - and I don't think that anybody traced its route to there. Was that purloined from a skip somewhere ? It could then have been sold at a car boot sale by someone clearing out after a death. Not quite any old car boot sale though. This one happened to be held at the Buckingham Movie Museum, so there was specifically lots of film equipment and films being sold. Just the sort of place that one might have found an old telerecording nearly 30 years ago!
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Aug 10, 2011 21:46:06 GMT
Are these regular events Richard, or was it a one off?
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Post by Richard Bignell on Aug 10, 2011 21:58:05 GMT
Well, the Buckingham Movie Museum itself closed down a long time ago, although some pictures of it can be found here www.cinerdistan.co.uk/buckingham_movie_museum.htm, so I think it's easy to see why a cine lover's car boot sale might have been held there. As the museum is long gone, I very much doubt that anything is held there now. There are still regular film collectors fairs held now I believe in Ruislip (having moved from Ealing) and Blackpool - although I understand that people there are heartily sick of being asked about Doctor Who film prints! ;D
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Post by Steven Sigel on Aug 11, 2011 4:18:17 GMT
Well, the Buckingham Movie Museum itself closed down a long time ago, although some pictures of it can be found here www.cinerdistan.co.uk/buckingham_movie_museum.htm, so I think it's easy to see why a cine lover's car boot sale might have been held there. As the museum is long gone, I very much doubt that anything is held there now. There are still regular film collectors fairs held now I believe in Ruislip (having moved from Ealing) and Blackpool - although I understand that people there are heartily sick of being asked about Doctor Who film prints! ;D Yes, there's a show in Ruislip, and yes, the dealers there are quite sick of being asked about Dr. Who... There are also several people (including BBC employees) who regularly go to these shows to look for any missing material (I was there this past May and a couple of missing shows (not Dr. Who - one was an educational program and the other was a half episode of an ITV show) were located), so I think this is pretty well covered.
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Post by JeffL on Aug 13, 2011 1:02:14 GMT
I have to b elieve that if anything new shows up it will be some color Pertwee's or perhaps another missing Hartnell Dalek story. The reason I believe this is that Hartnell holds a place in the hearts of many British fans since he was the first and the Daleks have always been the most popular nemesis (not for me, mind you...I don't get into Dalek stories). My guess is that some former BBC worker might have salvaged an old Dalek print.
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Post by Leighton Haberfield on Aug 13, 2011 22:37:26 GMT
Well thats excactly how the last episode was returned. I believe that the odd Hartnell may be found from season 3 but Troughton may be less likely
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Post by adriane17 on Aug 14, 2011 11:25:31 GMT
Yes I think the odd thing may still surface - most likely from a former employee of the BBC or their estate - but it is chastening to think that will soon be 20 years since Tomb was recovered and since then we've only had two single episodes turn up (and a print of an existing one)
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Post by gregbakun on Aug 15, 2011 17:55:17 GMT
Yes, there's a show in Ruislip, and yes, the dealers there are quite sick of being asked about Dr. Who... There are also several people (including BBC employees) who regularly go to these shows to look for any missing material (I was there this past May and a couple of missing shows (not Dr. Who - one was an educational program and the other was a half episode of an ITV show) were located), so I think this is pretty well covered. Do you know which ITV program (or half of program) had been found?
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Post by mark fowler on Aug 20, 2011 21:19:57 GMT
much as i enjoy Doctor Who, I am by no means an expert, so I don't know what would be the most likely episodes to be found. (I would love to see every episode recovered someday) but I really would love to see more of the Polly and Ben episodes, especially if they had Jamie in them too.
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Post by Paul Vanezis on Aug 20, 2011 21:52:41 GMT
Do you know which ITV program (or half of program) had been found? Can't say...sorry...
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Post by Ed Brown on Aug 26, 2011 20:55:50 GMT
Can anyone comment on the Troughton serial 'The Space Pirates' ?
I was recently sent a set of mp3 audio recordings of this serial, and every episode ended with an announcer talking over the end credits, in an Australian accent, telling viewers that the next episode would air next Sunday at the same time.
This clearly was not a recording from the original UK transmission, as the show was never broadcast on a Sunday on the BBC. Not to mention the strong Australian accent!
Is there an explanation, known to more informed fans, as to where this mp3 set originated? Or is this a previously unknown source?
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