Post by Paul Vanezis on Feb 9, 2011 0:40:06 GMT
IMHO.
When you consider the alternative IE getting off your behind, getting on buses and trains and researching the stuff yourself, the cost of a book or download is very reasonable indeed.
I'll make a couple of points about this just so we're all clear about what this forum is for and why I have responded the way I have. Mark Boulton has pretty much summed up my feelings from the off. The response from Chris to Philips enthusiastic post (that he can find out what he wants from a book Kaleidoscope are selling) was completely out of order and not in the spirit of this forum.
That is why we've arrived at this point. It's not a slanging match, nor a competition. I'm an administrator of this forum and I have a very hands off approach to that task, but on the few occasions I have to make a point or intervene, it's usually to do with provision of information, or the lack of it.
In this case, and Peter (Stirling), please take note; a list of what is in the Bob Monkhouse archive is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask for and as we pretty much know what's in the regular TV archives, we only want to know what was previously missing. I'm not suggesting Kaleidoscope re-publish their book for free on this site. If the BFi had announced the amazing find in the Library of Congress archive, but then didn't tell us what had been found we would be more than a little annoyed, and rightly so. So no, in my view it is not right for Chris to say to Philip he has to go and buy a book. If he answered his question and told him he could find out even more in his book about how and why Bob maintained his collection, then it would be an entirely different matter.
I've noted of course that Chris doesn't seem to want to take any criticism and no longer feels he can take part in the forum. If he doesn't feel he can fight his corner, that is up to him, but I just want to answer a few of the points he has made. He suggested I called Kaleidoscope idiots. That is not true. I know a lot of people involved in Kaleidoscope and I don't associate with idiots.
I said "Anyone who expects to either make money from publishing a list or keep a monopoly on what is in fact information (which doesn't inherently retain anything copyrightable) is an idiot." The Kal book is obviously not a list.
Regarding the Ed Doolan collection; I've reported the collection on these boards and all the titles I have catalogued. I have no idea how many tapes Ed has; hundreds. It's the titles that are important and I've listed the missing material.
As for the search for 'Doctor Who', it's ongoing. The Africa Progress thread was updated by me as recently as January 25th and I said then "Anything that is recovered will be announced as soon as we can without compromising any ongoing research/recovery. That's how it's always been."
I of course apologise for not yet finding 'The Web of Fear', but we can't have everything we want in this world. I promise though that if we do find any missing 'Doctor Who', you won't have to save up to find out what has been found, even though the search is not being funded by the BBC.
My regards,
Paul
