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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Sept 28, 2010 7:56:17 GMT
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Post by johnstewart on Oct 20, 2010 20:04:09 GMT
Interesting memories John.I'd love to get to the bottom of this Judy Teen clip that you remember.To most Cockney Rebel collectors the 23/5/74/TOTP's appearance is like the 'holy grail' and i'd love to believe that it's going to turn up in full one day. A short clip,slowed down is out there and the lights you mentioned do appear in the shot.Harley is wearing a bowler hat and black t-shirt.The rest of the band stand in a line playing guitars.That included drummer Stuart Elliot and keyboard player Milton Raeme James.Due to the BBC strike they couldn't get their usual instruments in! There is also a Judy Teen promo where Harley is wearing a beige colour suit and big rimmed glasses.This seems unlikely to be the clip that you rememberThe origins of this video is unknown to me but i think that it featured on a programme called Music and Video Show which is listed in the BFI archives.It was shown on ITV around 1976 and it featured some interesting acts. The Whistle Test footage from 12/2/74 is still in the archives and the band performed two songs at the beginning and end of the show(Hideaway and My Only Vice) Bob Harris commented that the music wasn't to his personal taste!! The Mr Soft performance on TOTP's 15/8/74 does exist and was shown on on TOTP's 2 a couple of years ago.The reformed band performed the same song the following week 22/8/74 with BA Robertson on keyboards and Herbie Flowers on bass.I've never ever seen video or photographs of this performance and wonder if anyone has any recollections of this broadcast? The Make Me Smile performance from TOTP's is known to most people(listed as 23/12/75 it's in fact 30/1/75) and i guess a lot of you have seen the 'promo' where Harley is wearing a foxfur jacket and bare chest.The band also performed the song on the 27/2/75 show which was wiped except for a few tracks.The Beeb decided against keeping the song that was number one that week!! Just to wrap things up the follow up song to Make me Smile which happened to be Mr.Raffles(not a bad little ditty) was performed on the 5/6/75 and the 19/6/75.Both of these performances...you guessed it,wiped! A shame because a compilation of early Cockney Rebel would make for an excellent DVD release and give the band the sort of recognition they deserved especially during those early years. Any follow up as to whether the Judy Teen TOTP's clip was definitely played on Pop Quiz or not would be welcome.Does the BBC have information on the contents of each individual show?There must be some rare and interesting footage out there waiting to be seen again. Hi Barry - Actually your posts make me realise I have probably confused various details from items from the time. Steve Harleys eye shadow and mascara also appear in MR SOFT but not the hat. It wasn't 'Clockwork Orange' eye lash type make up as I recall. In fact I may be thinking of the shot that appears on the LP cover PSYCHOMODO. It sounds also like the promo was launched on the back of the first COCKNEY REBEL album on EMI. At that time you can see by the cover his image was more like the later 'Come up and see me band'. Your description of the more casual but Dandy 1970s gear look fits in with that first LP cover. Also we did not have colour TV till 1979 - 80. I'm told the red and green Theatre lights appear in that promo; so this is probably what I saw on POP QUIZ. I'd assume the TOTP appearence must be the Bowler hat one I recall. It would seem then that so far at least; the super 8 fragments with the Bowler hat are all that exist after all of that one... |
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Post by Barry Edwards on Oct 21, 2010 10:07:52 GMT
Hi John..My own gut instinct is that the Judy Teen from TOTP's was probably wiped pretty quickly.The thought of some of it existing on Popquiz got me a bit excited for a minute! Harley was famed for his bowler hat but not too many clips in the archive feature him wearing it. As you said Mr.Soft with the second band showed him with black mascara,Make Me Smile from Russell Harty he's wearing a hat,Judy Teen the promo(filmed at Rank House)has the bright lights. All these images put together and we've almost got that elusive 23/5/74 TOTP's appearance!! For now the Blue Orange footage is the only record of Judy Teen from TOTP's.It's supposed to be shot on Super 8 film and dubbed with the music. Harley kind of mocked the newly found footage probably due to his anger at Blue Orange releasing some other live concert material of the band.Does he ever look on YouTube??Whatever way you look at it,it's totally genuine and video of the original band. A lot of board members proabaly haven't even seen Cockney Rebel mark one on film.That's because 'officially' there isn't any!! Seems wrong.
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