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Post by cperry on Mar 15, 2010 10:44:21 GMT
Like I said Ray, this isn't my field or anyone else's field in Kal. I don't have the time to scour youtube and contact posters. I wouldn't have a clue what's missing or what isn't, so I'm a waste of space on this one.
It needs guys like you on here who do know what their doing to take the lead.
If you source any master material then the BBC will be very happy to have it back (I'll give you specific contact names to help).
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 15, 2010 10:59:24 GMT
Thanks. I haven't sourced anything, and I am not a poster or a/c holder on YouTube. What I AM suggesting is that those people who are download it while it's THERE, and also contact the poster.
We need to establish whether this is Missing FIRSTLY. I'm still waiting for confirmation.
It can then be at least referred to the Beeb (Chris, do PM me with contact names), and I will contact them, by all means, referencing the clip.
But nonetheless, I really do think anyone who has the facilities to copy it, should. And please note - my personal view on this is for history preservation purposes.
I will let the Forum know if it's missing as soon as I have confirmation.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Mar 15, 2010 12:39:23 GMT
Ray I can confirm that this is a missing clip from the 12/08/1976 edition which has been wiped.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 15, 2010 12:48:06 GMT
Thank you! Can we therefore -even though it's just a low-res YouTube clip add it to the 2010 recoveries list, administrators? And do all of what was previously mentioned....someone copy it, in case it gets removed, and also contact the poster and also the BBC?
It's a tiny speck of our missing television history that has just been located, and we need to take steps to preserve it ANY WHICH WAY WE CAN.
Like I said, despite my inexperience in these matters, I am quite happy to contact the BBC myself, if names are provided. Anything I can do. Suggestions and views, please. :-)
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Post by cperry on Mar 15, 2010 14:27:32 GMT
But it's not a 2010 recovery Ray, so it shouldn't be on any recovery list otherwise that is misleading. That's why Laurence called the thread Discoveries and not Recoveries, but I've already said to Laurence that if it appears on his list people will assume it has been recovered, and I guess you've just proven me right, lol :-)
Simon Rooks is an experienced Media Manager if you have any actual high res footage, but a low res youtube clip won't get the BBC very excited. Tracking down the master tape will though so fingers crossed someone perserveres and finds the master.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 15, 2010 14:31:28 GMT
I do think someone on here needs to contact the poster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2010 14:40:20 GMT
I'm sure Chris will give you that list of official archive contacts if you want to approach the poster yourself with a view to retrieving a broadcast copy, Ray.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 15, 2010 14:52:06 GMT
I have literally just e-mailed the poster in the last two minutes (I traced him via a website), and will let you know anything that comes of it, good or bad.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Mar 15, 2010 23:37:03 GMT
Best of luck Ray, i hope you manage to get some sort of reply. The problem with youtube is that 'most' posters tend not to reply at all. Some i assume are afraid of some sort of legal action against them the others just don't have the information we seek. Regarding this clip of 'If Only For The Good Times', it appears that the record button is pressed at the start of the introduction. Perhaps this is an 'orphan' clip recorded by a member of the group/management. If they turn out to be from a complete editions that would be a great find and possibly lead to more Here's what might be: .....12th August 1976: Tony Blackburn THE EQUALS – Funky Like A Train DOCTOR HOOK – A Little Bit More (promo) STARLAND VOCAL BAND – Afternoon Delight (Ruby Flipper) STATUS QUO – Mystery Song (promo) GUYS ‘N’ DOLLS – If Only For The Good TimesTHE CHI-LITES – You Don’t Have To Go (promo) JIMMY JAMES & THE VAGABONDS – Now Is The Time TAVARES – Heaven Must Be Missing An Angel (promo) THE BEE GEES – You Should Be Dancing (Ruby Flipper) JAMES & BOBBY PURIFY – Morning Glory (promo) CLIFF RICHARD – I Can’t Ask For Anything More Than You ELTON JOHN & KIKI DEE – Don’t Go Breaking My Heart (promo) and 'Here I Go Again' .....1st May 1975 Dave Lee Travis GLITTER BAND – The Tears I Cried SILVER CONVENTION – Save Me GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS – The Way We Were – Try To Remember (promo) THE WOMBLES – Wombling White Tie And Tails WINDSOR DAVIES & DON ESTELLE – Whispering Grass TAMMY JONES – Let Me Try Again GUYS ‘N’ DOLLS – Here I Go AgainTEACH-IN – Ding-A-Dong MINNIE RIPERTON – Loving You (promo) FRANKIE VALLI & THE FOUR SEASONS – The Night (Pan’s People) TAMMY WYNETTE – Stand By Your Man (promo) MUD – Oh Boy........
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 16, 2010 8:39:12 GMT
That's exactly what it is Paul. An orphan clip recorded by a member of the band. I haven't received any reply as yet (but it has been less than 24 hours). The BBC are aware of the find, as such too, and I have contacted a member of this Forum to make sure that someone keeps a low-res copy on DVD as I haven't the facility to!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Mar 16, 2010 10:04:00 GMT
I have had a reply from the poster of the clip, and what I can say is he is currently going through his collection of memorabilia from the 70s etc. I have made him aware of this Forum and also Kaleidoscope and the BBC although the clip is probably an orphaned one, he may POSSIBLY have other stuff as well. Really nice chap too.
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Post by Paul Watkins on Mar 16, 2010 10:36:19 GMT
That's great! Even the odd orphan clip is more than welcome. Hope he finds some more treasures
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Post by Neil Barker on Mar 16, 2010 14:30:24 GMT
Good work, Ray! Let's hope more stuff turns up!
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Post by Alan Turrell on Mar 16, 2010 17:59:17 GMT
Yes well done Ray every clip found is most welcome.
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Post by Rich Cornock on Mar 16, 2010 18:56:35 GMT
well done Ray, keep us posted it would be great if this could be recovered. its nice that missing TOTP clips are being found
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