Manfred Mann on TV 1966

[James C]

Does anyone know if there are any existing clips of Manfred Mann from 1966 with Jack Bruce? What shows did this lineup appear on, apart from TOTP and RSG. Any info is much appreciated.



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[davemachin]

I would like to know this too, Jason. It seems like a part of Manfred Mann history that is missing totally. Nice pic there. Is that Mike Hugg's brother on sax?

Dave

[Kev Mulrenan]

Feb 12, 2010 17:57:50 GMT James C said:

Does anyone know if there are any existing clips of Manfred Mann from 1966 with Jack Bruce? What shows did this lineup appear on, apart from TOTP and RSG. Any info is much appreciated.



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Wow! Thanks for that. There are some amazing shots of Thank Your Lucky Stars on this site, many in colour.

cheers

Kev

[Deleted]

Mike D'Abo recalls his first band A Band Of Angels appearing in the same edition of "A Whole Scene Going" as... Manfred Mann. Manfred asked D'Abo for his phone number and not long after that, D'Abo got an audition and subsequently the job. D'Abo wrote about this in the sleevenotes to the "Ascent Of Mann" CD booklet. Jack Bruce played at those auditions and gave D'Abo a lift home. When D'Abo told Bruce he thought he'd got the job, Bruce told him he was leaving to get a group together with Eric Clapton and Ginger Baker...

[James C]

Feb 12, 2010 18:28:48 GMT @davemachin said:

I would like to know this too, Jason. It seems like a part of Manfred Mann history that is missing totally. Nice pic there. Is that Mike Hugg's brother on sax?

Dave

Not sure who the sax player is but after Mike Vickers left, the Manfreds did use a sax and a trumpet player i believe. I'd also like to know what songs Jack did play on. We all know he played on PRETTY FLAMINGO, did he also play on the, MACHINES and INSTRUMENTAL ASYLUM EPs? If only they'd made at least 1 LP together! Here's the audio for the song MACHINES. didn't they perform this on RSG?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby0UMqp2fI

[Deleted]

I believe Lyn Dobson was one of the horn players... he'd been there back in the days of the Mann Hugg Brothers that preceded Manfred Mann.

I believe Jack is on most of "The Soul Of Mann" LP... definitely the oddball covers of recent hits like "I Got You Babe", "Satisfaction" and "Still I'm Sad." By the time he joined, Paul Jones had handed in his notice... I believe he did that whilst "If You Gotta Go, Go Now" was a hit, but the Manfreds had problems finding a replacement so he stayed much longer than the 6 months he thought he would serve. So, with the Manfreds knowing Paul was leaving, they tended to record more instrumentals in the studio and built up a stockpile of them which was used on "The Soul Of Mann" in 1967.

Jack is on the B'side of "Flamingo"... "You're Standing By." Some BBC radio stuff exists including a strange track called "Long Haired Unsquare Dude Called Jack."

Legend has it that Bruce and Paul Jones performed a live "Train Time" on RSG!

[James C]

Feb 12, 2010 20:53:02 GMT @phillipgruber said:

I believe Lyn Dobson was one of the horn players... he'd been there back in the days of the Mann Hugg Brothers that preceded Manfred Mann.

I believe Jack is on most of "The Soul Of Mann" LP... definitely the oddball covers of recent hits like "I Got You Babe", "Satisfaction" and "Still I'm Sad." By the time he joined, Paul Jones had handed in his notice... I believe he did that whilst "If You Gotta Go, Go Now" was a hit, but the Manfreds had problems finding a replacement so he stayed much longer than the 6 months he thought he would serve. So, with the Manfreds knowing Paul was leaving, they tended to record more instrumentals in the studio and built up a stockpile of them which was used on "The Soul Of Mann" in 1967.

Jack is on the B'side of "Flamingo"... "You're Standing By." Some BBC radio stuff exists including a strange track called "Long Haired Unsquare Dude Called Jack."

Legend has it that Bruce and Paul Jones performed a live "Train Time" on RSG!

Henry Lowther played the trumpet. I quite like the very jazzy version of MY GENERATION!!

[Deleted]

My favourite is "I Got You Babe" - some great groovy bass work in that one. According to an article on an Earth Band site, Bruce arranged all those numbers featured on the EP.

I also just remembered that Bruce did play on the first Fontana session with the Manfreds. Sadly I can't remember which track it is but he is definitely on one song on the first Fontana album "As Is." Klaus Voorman joined in June 1966 having just turned down an offer to replace Eric Haydock in The Hollies.

[James C]

Interesting quote from Wiki. (The ever-present cameras, which were very large with rotating lens turrets rather than zooms, were sometimes incorporated into the action, notably in a Manfred Mann performance of the song 'Machines' which ended with Paul Jones singing crouched on the floor surrounded by menacing cameras.)

[davemachin]

This gets more interesting by the minute. A whole chapter of Manfred Mann that we have no visuals of! (This should be in the other thread maybe). I was thinking that might have been Mike's brother as didn't he play on Chapter Three material? It may have been Lyn Dobson though if he played with the group at the time. I would really love to see some of those later RSG programmes as the line ups are more interesting than the ones which exist. On that subject, does anyone know exactly which ones do exist? I know of the three well known complete shows but those Dave Clark compilations do not make it plain which and how many of the others exist to draw material from.

Dave

[James C]

Feb 13, 2010 17:00:45 GMT @davemachin said:

This gets more interesting by the minute. A whole chapter of Manfred Mann that we have no visuals of! (This should be in the other thread maybe). I was thinking that might have been Mike's brother as didn't he play on Chapter Three material? It may have been Lyn Dobson though if he played with the group at the time. I would really love to see some of those later RSG programmes as the line ups are more interesting than the ones which exist. On that subject, does anyone know exactly which ones do exist? I know of the three well known complete shows but those Dave Clark compilations do not make it plain which and how many of the others exist to draw material from.

Dave

I'm pretty sure this line up appeared on more shows than RSG and TOTP. Its a shame they didn't stay with this line up. No disrespect to D'Bo and Voorman, who did a great job in seeing the Manfreds thru the rest of the 60s.

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I did mention they did "A Whole Scene Going" above. I'd imagine there would had been a "Lucky Stars" appearance as well.

The biggest pity is it seems they didn't do any European TV. We have plenty of the D'Abo era from Germany, France, Sweden and even the UK combined (I mean... 4 TOTP clips alone is a bit of a record) but the October 1965 to June 1966 era seems to be a black hole.

[James C]

Feb 13, 2010 20:20:18 GMT @phillipgruber said:

I did mention they did "A Whole Scene Going" above. I'd imagine there would had been a "Lucky Stars" appearance as well.

The biggest pity is it seems they didn't do any European TV. We have plenty of the D'Abo era from Germany, France, Sweden and even the UK combined (I mean... 4 TOTP clips alone is a bit of a record) but the October 1965 to June 1966 era seems to be a black hole.

Maybe an email to the Manfreds website might shed some light?

[Ray Langstone (was saintsray)]

If it helps, Paul Jones recalls that he left Manfred Mann either 30th June or 1st July 1966.

[Keith Read]

There is at least some surviving video footage of Paul Jones performing "Pretty Flamingo" from around 1966 backed by "The Richard Kent Style"
A logo can be seen at the top of the stage "WEM"

I cannot get a screen shot to insert just here [/img] but will email this to anyone who wants to track the footage down.

I seem to remember that WEM was a German TV Channel?

Keith