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Post by Dick Fiddy on Jan 7, 2010 17:17:15 GMT
Hello
The second session of this year's Missing Believed Wiped event (Sat, Jan 9th at BFI Southbank 6.30-8.20) will be an all music event and will feature amongst others, a complete Time for Blackburn (with performances by The Who and John Walker amongst others), a compilation of musical items from the BBC regional series Look! Hear! (including Black Sabbath and The Selecter), a complete 1976 TOTP (from the David Hamilton collection) and the badly damaged but historic TOTP 1967 footage featuring Pink Floyd (See Emily Play), The Turtles (She's Rather be With Me) and Procol Harum (Whiter Shade of Pale)
Many thanks to Kaleidoscope for their invaluable help in putting together this event and remember they have their own all-music extrvaganza scheduled for June.
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Post by adriane17 on Jan 7, 2010 17:43:56 GMT
If you live within striking distance of London and have never been to a Missing Believed Wiped then try to get along on Saturday.
Session 1 (at 1615) looks good too with one of the recently recovered Till Death Us Do Parts (State Visit)
Always worthwhile - whatever the weather throws at us!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2010 17:50:19 GMT
I'll be there! I'm looking forward to the complete Time For Blackburn edition - a nice surprise. It all looks good though.
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Post by cperry on Jan 7, 2010 18:17:51 GMT
The official PR for this event with full details is in the other Active Forum.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jan 7, 2010 20:31:34 GMT
for those of us who can't make it to these screenings, is there any hope that they may be repeated or shown on tv in the near future?
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Post by cperry on Jan 7, 2010 21:26:27 GMT
Our music event in June will contain some of the footage for sure, indeed we have so much potential content this could be our longest event ever lol.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 8, 2010 9:19:21 GMT
Do a two day event? Just a thought! I would like to say that the June event would be great having any of the above footage on it.
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Post by Paul Dorf on Jan 8, 2010 10:47:20 GMT
agh, cant miss the darts semis, but well done to dick/bfi/chris to put them on. maybe pvl next time!!
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jan 8, 2010 12:01:30 GMT
PVL ?
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jan 8, 2010 12:26:17 GMT
Private Video Library. There are lots of posts relating to it on here. Collection of TOTP footage and other stuff owned by a Private Collector.
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Post by Sal Mohammed on Jan 9, 2010 22:56:38 GMT
Spoiler - Don't read if you don't want to know about the footage shown.
Just back from the event. Kicked off with "Time For Blackburn" with some typically bad Blackburn jokes which were quite amusing to see. At one point he tells artist Heath Hampstead that he wouldn't call him Hampstead Heath! There's an interview with Jonathan King in which he pokes fun at music industry not being interested in the music but the freebies that comes with launch parties. Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky Mick & Tich also performed a number. The real treat is The Who performing "Magic Bus" with some fast moving camera shots. The best footage in terms of quality comes from the "Look, Hear" programmes. All the bands were playing live and from the Midlands. Of the two tone bands, The Beat sounded great, only "Big Shot" was shown though they were due to perform later in the show. There was a track from The Swinging Cats, maybe their only TV performance and lastly two tracks from The Selector's "Two Much Pressure" album. There's a crowd invasion during "Two Much Pressure" which the band seemed to enjoy. It's actually the audience which is the amusing part of the show, the clothes, hair and dancing. Next up was an episode of TOTP from 1976, I can't say it's a classic episode. Apart from a couple of tracks the music was very bland. Full line up: 22.01.76 with Sailor, Barbara Dickson, Slik, Smokie, R & J Stone, Osibisa, E.L.O., David Ruffin, Paul Davidson (Pans People) and Queen I guess the interesting part is seeing Slik or Bay City Rollers mkII with a young Midge Ure also Pans People were showing a lot of leg performing Midnight Rider with some typical match the lyrics dance moves. I couldn't agree with Dick Fiddy more when he commented at the end just as well punk came along. Lastly the TOTP from 1967. It may be badly damaged but it's still great to see. The Floyd footage is rough to begin with but settles down with a shot of Sid Barrett singing the first verse. The camera moves to Roger & Sid for the chorus and there's a decent shot of the whole band. There's nothing visible for the second verse before the band reappear. Alan Freeman introduces Ray Davies instead of Dave Davies and you can hear Dave shouting back "Dave Davies, you done that on purpose"
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Post by Kev Mulrenan on Jan 9, 2010 23:05:40 GMT
Spoiler - Don't read if you don't want to know about the footage shown. Just back from the event. Kicked off with "Time For Blackburn" with some typically bad Blackburn jokes which were quite amusing to see. At one point he tells artist Heath Hampstead that he wouldn't call him Hampstead Heath! There's an interview with Jonathan King in which he pokes fun at music industry not being interested in the music but the freebies that comes with launch parties. Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky Mick & Tich also performed a number. The real treat is The Who performing "Magic Bus" with some fast moving camera shots. The best footage in terms of quality comes from the "Look, Hear" programmes. All the bands were playing live and from the Midlands. Of the two tone bands, The Beat sounded great, only "Big Shot" was shown though they were due to perform later in the show. There was a track from The Swinging Cats, maybe their only TV performance and lastly two tracks from The Selector's "Two Much Pressure" album. There's a crowd invasion during "Two Much Pressure" which the band seemed to enjoy. It's actually the audience which is the amusing part of the show, the clothes, hair and dancing. Next up was an episode of TOTP from 1976, I can't say it's a classic episode. Apart from a couple of tracks the music was very bland. Full line up: 22.01.76 with Sailor, Barbara Dickson, Slik, Smokie, R & J Stone, Osibisa, E.L.O., David Ruffin, Paul Davidson (Pans People) and Queen I guess the interesting part is seeing Slik or Bay City Rollers mkII with a young Midge Ure also Pans People were showing a lot of leg performing Midnight Rider with some typical match the lyrics dance moves. I couldn't agree with Dick Fiddy more when he commented at the end just as well punk came along. Lastly the TOTP from 1967. It may be badly damaged but it's still great to see. The Floyd footage is rough to begin with but settles down with a shot of Sid Barrett singing the first verse. The camera moves to Roger & Sid for the chorus and there's a decent shot of the whole band. There's nothing visible for the second verse before the band reappear. Alan Freeman introduces Ray Davies instead of Dave Davies and you can hear Dave shouting back "Dave Davies, you done that on purpose" Cheers for the summary, Sal! I wish I could have been there to see you as we have been emailling for a good few years. Maybe see you in Stourbridge in June?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2010 11:38:32 GMT
Thanks for detailed rundown, Sal. I agree it was a great day of interesting material. The '67 TOTP material was a revelation to me! These clips featuring great bands and great songs - although alternately terrible and good quality - are a far better representation of the excitement and spontaneity of the programme than anything captured in the handful of already surviving editions; the live fluffed Procol vocal from a seemingly disorientated Gary Brooker with pre- Robin Trower line-up, a brief glimpse of Samantha Juste, Dave Davies being wrongly introduced as Ray (and his retort to fluff) and the fun of The Turtles performance. Watching all this great material, the one thought just kept coming back into my head: we have lost so much!
The complete Time For Blackburn was a strong edition with a good line-up (DDDBM&T, DC5 and The Who) and shows yet another pop series that has been almost completely airbrushed out of TV history. A pretty good quality recording as well.
The Look Hear material was very interesting too. This looked more like broadcast masters though, rather than domestic quality (what format were they on? Does anyone know?) and the '76 TOTP really did make you scream out for punk! I would have preferred to see the complete 1969 TOTP from Lulu's collection (or the '74 material from Dick Emery) rather than this edition myself but it's still valuable discovered material from the series even so.
The good news from Dick Fiddy was that the Pink Floyd management have received copies of the Pink Floyd material and they have promised to make use of this in future, possibly as a DVD extra. Perhaps some more restoration could be attempted of the material (certainly the song could be re-dubbed from the record as it was purely mimed, getting rid of those slurred sections). The Turtles appearance was only marginally affected by defects and with re-dubbing of sound and maybe the odd patching shot could be useable. If there is an off-air audio of the Procol appearance, that could also be re-dubbed. I must say, i'd travel to the ends of the earth to get to see more '60s Top Of The Pops material of the type on display here! Well done to all those concerned with locating and making available the material on show. Even the snow seemed to have no effect on my travel arrangements into London and services seemed completely normal despite heavy snow still lying on the ground outside the capital. Amazing!
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Post by adriane17 on Jan 10, 2010 12:37:06 GMT
Obviously it is all a matter of personal taste (and indeed when you grew up) but the Look Hear and TOTP 76 material seemed far more dated than the TOTP 67 with the proto NWOBHM bands particularly hard to take seriously now. The Blackburn programme was interesting with a quite refreshed Long John Baldry and the unwittingly (?) funny reference to Hampstead Heath.
At least the fact that a tape of domestically recorded TOTP from 1967 has surfaced recently gives us some hope we might get some more from other individuals around in the business at the time.
Great to see Samantha Juste - didn't she marry Mickey Dolenz?
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Post by Phil Chappell on Jan 10, 2010 12:56:15 GMT
I would love to try re-syncing the Pink Floyd footage to the original audio (Dick Fiddy said there was a separate discovery of the audio only for that Top of the Pops). It would take a while, needing to be re-adjusted everytime the picture broke up, but once that was done the whole thing would be more watchable - add some stills in the verse with the missing visuals, possibly freeze a good frame for the other smaller drop-out sections and then its in a version that could easily be a DVD extra.
the David Hamilton TOTP was not that exciting - ending with Bohemian Rhapsody which has been seen countless times - but I did enjoy 'Time For Blackburn' - be great if more of these ever turned up! Enjoyed the Two Tone bands too on 'Look, Hear' - I'd never heard of The Swinging Cats but that was great fun - and brave to do a Nana Mouskouri cover!!!
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