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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 9, 2009 23:35:33 GMT
Can anyone identify this footage of The Small Faces shown behind Tom Jones in this clip from Beat Beat Beat. It doesn't appear to be from this series and looks to date from 1967, did he company that make BBB make any other music shows? Could this be a Promo even? www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz3MYhCWZDA
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Dec 10, 2009 7:57:57 GMT
They're certainly grooving a-la 'Itchycoo..' but the singing bit doesn't jump out as that. Is it possible they were just asked to 'groove about' for 2 minutes just to be filmed specifically for the background slot?
T.
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Post by Steve Flower on Dec 10, 2009 8:22:23 GMT
Hey Bob, if you look at when Steve Marriott starts singing at about 30 secs into the clip, and sing Tin Soldier along with it, that appears to be what he is singing. Which was out the same year as Itchycoo Park!
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 10, 2009 10:41:44 GMT
If they were performing tin soldier or Itchycoo park what was it filmed for as it doesn't appear to be BBB. I would have thought that if they were filmed be it a mime or just grooving around they would have been in front of the cameras for another purpose i.e highly unlikely that they are were going to get all spruced up and turn up to a tv studio just to be filmed grooving around. My guess is that it was ; a0 for another show made the same tv company b) promo c) imported from another broadcaster, dare I suggest TOTP!
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Dec 10, 2009 14:02:19 GMT
A lip-reading expert needed me thinks!
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 10, 2009 14:33:57 GMT
Definitely Tin Soldier for me. Marriott's singing:
I-I-I am a little tin soldier That wants to jump into your fire You are a look in your eye A dream passing by in the sky
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Post by davemachin on Dec 10, 2009 15:47:43 GMT
What an odd thing to use for a backdrop to Tom Jones though! Are the video echo effects added to the images for this projection? Looks to me like they are. The question is though what does it come from? A promo or another tv appearance?
Dave
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Post by Steve Flower on Dec 10, 2009 18:55:53 GMT
I would suggest a TV show Dave. Just in the way it has been shot! Could this be another missing Top Of the Pops clip? I have checked on youtube for performances of this song, however could not trace this clip. Another question is, how many TV shows around the world, did the Small Faces perform this track on? A very intriguing find Bob!!
Steven
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Post by Alan Turrell on Dec 10, 2009 19:26:00 GMT
Yes its definetly Tin soldier fascinating now where's it from i wonder ?Could it be totp ?
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 10, 2009 21:22:40 GMT
Is anyone in a position to ask the company that made or holds the rights to beat beat beat? I guess this is the logical starting point as at one point they held this footage. Surely BBB wasn't the only show they produced. I always thought it was a very strange idea to use this as a backdrop!
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Dec 11, 2009 5:18:14 GMT
It is of course 'Tin Soldier' and intriquingly it has that manic, dare I say it, WHO-esque-I can see for miles-BBC-camera-work-MADNESS to it!! ;D
T.
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 11, 2009 7:55:44 GMT
The Who footage was from How Late It Is wasn't it?
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 11, 2009 8:01:29 GMT
According to our fellow member Oliver Roemer on here, HR or "Hessischer Rundfunk" were the producers and broadcasters of "Beat! Beat! Beat!" and they still own the full copyright to the series today. can anyone contact them to see what else they made and still hold in their archive.
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Post by davemachin on Dec 11, 2009 10:40:36 GMT
The manic Who footage was I think from Twice A Fortnight, Bob.
The Small Faces clip does seem to me like a tv shot rather than promo. It would make sense if it was something also owned and recorded by who made Beat Beat Beat otherwise they would have to pay to use a clip from another broadcaster just be seen as background! I would guess not Top of the Pops but if not BBB then another German or European broadcaster they had some kind of reciprocal deal with regarding footage? Scandinavian footage? There is existing SF material there too. Does this make sense?
Dave
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Dec 11, 2009 13:31:32 GMT
So who on here has contacts with the european archives that may hold this gem, looks very psychedelic!
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