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Post by PaulCarmichael on Oct 25, 2009 18:20:28 GMT
Hi!
Just wondering is anybody able to confirm the archive status of BSB's "Heil Honey Im Home" (1990)?
I've checked lostshows.com but it doesn't seem to recognise the name of the show at all.
Cheers Paul
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2009 18:23:37 GMT
I'm pretty sure the pilot episode still exists since clips from it were used a few years back on some list like show of "bad" or "politically incorrect" TV shows. Wasn't that all that did get broadcast though? I recall reading they did make an entire series of it but was deemed "offensive" so no more episodes got shown. Maybe it's all gone and just home recordings of the pilot is all that's left.
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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Oct 25, 2009 18:27:13 GMT
Check out the Raiders of the Lost Archives recoveries list 08 - 09...
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Post by PaulCarmichael on Oct 25, 2009 18:30:08 GMT
Hi! I noticed the listing on the recovered material list. Does this mean that only the pilot episode exists officially?
Indeed, eight episodes were made but only that pilot episode was TX'd.
Would be remarkable if a whole sitcom had gone missing from as late as that. A definitive answer would be amazing on this, (I've been trying to get one for years!) as well as very interesting.
Cheers Paul
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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Oct 25, 2009 18:42:45 GMT
It seems that way, along with all the rest of the BSB archive.
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Post by PaulCarmichael on Oct 25, 2009 18:46:10 GMT
Righhhttt...
So if one happened to have some un-screened episodes of this show I assume that they would be considered to be of interest? What would be the course of action one would then take?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2009 18:51:38 GMT
I'm not sure which production company made the programme but if it was either Noel Gay or John Gau Productions, the series will apparently have been junked. Pretty incredible (and disgraceful) considering that this is only the early '90s that we're talking about.
Unscreened episodes? Well, contacting Kaleidoscope would be the best thing to do. They are trying to collate a list of what off-air (or other) recordings of BSB originated material survives. They'd probably be interested.
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Post by PaulCarmichael on Oct 25, 2009 18:57:11 GMT
It's Noel Gay Productions.
I shall bang off an email to Kaleidascope. It would be great if this series could see the light of day. It really isn't as bad as its reputation (or, indeed, pilot episode) suggests!
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Post by Andrew Doherty on Oct 25, 2009 18:57:56 GMT
I'm not sure which production company made the programme but if it was either Noel Gay or John Gau Productions, the series will apparently have been junked. Pretty incredible (and disgraceful) considering that this is only the early '90s that we're talking about. Frankly, if that is the case, what have the past thirty years of television programme recovery been about? I suppose there may be someone out there who will attempt to justify this act of more recent vandalism. Yours,
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Post by Ant Harvison - WIPED NEWS on Oct 25, 2009 19:07:02 GMT
It is a tragic affair but on the up-side the recordings are well into the era of VHS and I'm thinking of running a media campaign to try and get some recoveries from people who might have taped them at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2009 19:09:08 GMT
There's already one under way by Kaleidoscope and others, Anthony, although the more exposure this topic gets, the better! Keep us informed of your progress.
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Post by PaulCarmichael on Oct 25, 2009 19:19:31 GMT
I suppose the problem would be, how many people subscribed via Squarial or Cable to BSB twenty years ago, how many of those thought to record the output and how many of them would have kept the material for two decades?
Anyway, if what I have helps in any way I more than happy to do whatever I can!
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 25, 2009 20:49:48 GMT
Hi Paul
I'm the person responsible for the BSB recoveries mentioned in this year's Kaleidoscope list and have been collating material for a few years via production staff and home tapers. There will be discussion of this at January's Missing Believed Wiped event.
We didn't mention the remaining Heil! episodes in the list as, until we physically have them, it's rather foolish to list them. But I am aware of reports that some if not all exist privately.
If you can contact Kaleidoscope that would be terrific.
Thanks Ian
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Post by Mark Tinkler on Oct 26, 2009 8:52:57 GMT
I've posted this before somewhere - may have been on Mausoleum club, anyway... The 1st pilot of "Heil Honey" was shown on Channel4 during a bad taste weekend. If I remember correctly, the pilot was re-shot with the filming of the series but none of it was shown on BSB as it was close to the "merger" with Sky. Bearing in mind that, as with all BS programmes, they have been contracted for a different broadcaster with a different gerographical target area, it was never shown on Sky. Also it was "too much" of a hot potato for Sky. I did have my VHS of the pilot but I foolishly lent to a someone ages ago and never got it back. The best bet to find the series would probably be either Noel Gay TV or Geoff Atkinson, the writer & producer. To get any kind of release now, all the artists and writers etc would have to be contacted and cleared and it is problematical as to whether with the reputation the series now has, whether they would all agree. Have to say the recordings of the shows fell between 2 shoes (yes, shoes) - each episode was recorded twice... at Pinewood I think. One audience was a young student audiece, the 2nd an older audience, and the best versions edited together. The 1st audience thought the jokes were bad (not getting that it was supposed to a pastiche of "I Love Lucy" humour") and the 2nd audience were shocked by the subject matter. And yes, I worked on it which I know a little about the series!
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 26, 2009 9:40:35 GMT
Hi Mark
I've seen mention of this Bad Taste weekend on C4, and I think we may have discussed it in the past, but I can't quite place when that was. The pilot first aired during a Sitcom Weekend on Galaxy on 30 Sep 90, an off-air of which exists. If the C4 showing can be traced, then I'd be very interested to know when it was. The channel also screened Happening compilations, so there was certainly a relationship with Noel Gay TV.
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