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Post by cperry on Nov 11, 2009 11:09:43 GMT
The recordings play very well, bearing in mind what Dick says.
If the BFI and copyright holders have no objection we may try to clear some of the 1967 TOTP to run at our March event. We are already pursuing clearing 1970s editions found in the Dick Emery and David Hamilton collections. March is a curius mixture of event - TOTP, ATV 1970s and Famous Five reunion at present lol.
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Post by Paul Dorf on Nov 11, 2009 13:06:40 GMT
if anyone knows what else was in the dick emery & lulu off air collections please post it. presumably they didnt just record one or two shows. i guess DH's totps were copies of masters when he was at the beeb rather than off air? & o/t i heard theres another colourisation job being show this xmas on bbc but not sure what it is yet.
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Post by Andrew Martin on Nov 11, 2009 13:13:14 GMT
Apart from the Top of the Pops, Dick Emery's collection only consisted of his own shows, and none of those were missing episodes. They were however off air copies and a couple have bits of continuity, and one has part of a news bulletin that did not exist otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 14:28:14 GMT
Thanks for the info, Andrew. Always good to piece together more details of these fascinating collections.
By the way, Paul, David Hamilton's collection is of Philips 1500 tapes (off-air, I think) and so they are good quality and colour; much better than VHS etc. To use as a rough guide, some of the Bob Monkhouse Philips recordings were on display at the BAFTA event and quality was very good indeed.
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Post by Paul Dorf on Nov 11, 2009 16:12:58 GMT
thanks alot Andrew & Laurence! its funny how celebs used to just record their own shows, maybe so they could review their own work without having to playback the master tapes. & a pity DH was a rarely used presenter on totp as most of early 76 was wiped. i guess some stars might've possibly been able to get copies of their shows from the master tapes at the time but not sure in what format they'd have been in as this was obviously before vhs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 17:08:02 GMT
In a way, the DH recordings (and those of other actors and TV people) are like a CV or showreel in the days before it was easy to just put something like that together on a DVD (and VHS before that). It was a means of keeping a record of his work too.
Philips and U-Matic formats came out around 1972 and any earlier off-air recordings would usually be on Sony CV-2000 reel to reel (roughly from around 1965 onwards). This was b/w and not always that great quality if viewed now - but better than nothing and these do turn up from time to time. Good news for us. I'm personally hoping more Rediffusion material turns up in this way!
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Post by davemachin on Nov 12, 2009 11:45:30 GMT
I always find it incredible how much material keeps turning up. Just when you think there can't be much more, more comes up. Has anybody ever done an audit of how much material has been returned to the BBC since the point in the early eighties when they started looking in earnest? It would make for an interesting list that I would like to cast an eye on. It must run into the hundreds at very least.
The film prints seem to just go on and on but I think also that early home recordings are an area not explored fully yet. It could carry on being fruitful as the Bob's Full House thing seems to say. I see threads itemising the recovered programmes for 2007 up to the present day but have the years before that been done? I couldn't find anything but I'd like to see it.
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Post by Tony Cross on Nov 12, 2009 19:43:56 GMT
tx: 22.02.76 with Fatback Band, Tina Charles, Smokie, Billy Ocean, Cliff Richard, Guys & Dolls, C. W. McCall, Status Quo and The Stylistics.
tx: 25.03.76 with Marmalade, Billy Ocean, Miracles, The Glitter Band, Hot Chocolate and Pan's People.
tx: 31.03.77 with David Dundas, Lynsey de Paul, Mike Moran, The Stylistics, Bonnie Tyler, David Soul, Legs & Co and Berni Flint.
All of this lost David Hamilton material is a great find but will any of us ever get to view these shows in our lifetime?
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Post by davemachin on Nov 13, 2009 9:23:45 GMT
I agree, Tony that it's fantastic programmes are returned but I would like a chance to see them. Network do not have a deal with releasing BBC material and that is a shame because they would be the perfect people to bring these out. They are not averse to releasing programmes from domestic recordings such as with the Pipkins either.
We need a dedicated company for bringing out shows like Top Of The Pops which have a potential dedicated market but which fall through the cracks as they aren't ITV material that Network can touch and do not fall into the usual category of cult tv. They would appeal to music and music television fans though and there are a lot of those. Cheers for those programme breakdowns, Tony.
Dave
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Post by cperry on Nov 13, 2009 18:58:48 GMT
Look at my post at the top of this page about our March event :-) We do our best to show what people want to see.
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Post by Tony Cross on Nov 14, 2009 20:26:46 GMT
Hi Christopher
Where will your March event be held?
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Post by davemachin on Nov 14, 2009 22:39:48 GMT
Is the March event in London, Chris? If it is I might be able to get to it. I have missed some goodies already and I would like to see some of these recordings. What venue?
Dave
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 17, 2009 20:07:17 GMT
I'm glad we'll got to See Emery's tape Play back with this rare Pink Floyd performance!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2009 20:26:27 GMT
The 1967 TOTP didn't come from Dick Emery's collection - the '74 edition did though. Full details have been posted in the Kal recoveries thread.
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Post by ajsmith on Nov 17, 2009 20:27:18 GMT
The 1967 TOTP didn't come from Dick Emery's collection - the '74 edition did though. Full details have been posted above. sorry, it was a terrible pun I couldn't resist using.
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