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Post by Oliver Roemer on Jul 24, 2009 13:39:39 GMT
tim disney wrote:Here's a question for Koen or Oliver. Do you know if Radio Bremen's former studios at Osterholz have been demolished yet? Or if the the building is to stay but be used for something else?Hello Tim, sadly the original studios of Radio Bremen in Osterholz Tenever (a part of Bremen), including the legendary Studio 3 in which Beat-Club & Musikladen have been produced, have now been demolished to make way for a big furniture market and it's accompanying parking lot as far as I know. It is quite a shame, for you don't even find very many pictures of the Buildings on the net. :-( Sometimes, "Vinyl" producer & presenter Jörg Sonntag is giving a brick from the old studiowall as a present to popular studio guests on his show as a piece of memory to the good old times at the legendary TV-studio. (Dear Jörg, if you read this: "I'd love to have one of these, please!" ;D ) The Studios of Mike Leckebusch's own TV prcduction company "LAV" are situated in "Garlstedt" (until the early 90's this was the main US-Army Base for northern Germany and also housed the broadcasting facilities of AFN-Bremerhaven), a village situated between the towns of Bremen and Bremerhaven, near Osterholz-Scharmbeck, a part of lower saxony that has nothing to do with "Osterholz Tenever" which is, as I mentioned earlier, a part of the town of Bremen. Brett Leslie wrote: Beat Club 5 – The Beatles – Day Tripper – Intertel Promo Version 3 – Group in cut-out railway carriage – only 1:35 of the clip is shown as it is the last clip on the show and cuts to a dancing German Audience – all other performances on this show were German bands performing live in the studio.Yeah, It is true what you wrote, but sadly they didn't show this and the end credits of the (original) show, instead they did a cut to a studio guest of this special, an author who read one of his poems about the 60's and ruined that one for me. As a Beatlesfan, I'm not very pleased with the way this special was presented (colourful banners in each clip and sometimes bad cuts!), but unfortunately this production was made as part of a series called "Die Hitlisten des Nordens" and was mainly in the hands of ARD station NDR in Hamburg, not Radio Bremen who only lend the name "Vinyl" and the presenters (Jörg Sonntag & Dirk Böhling) to it. @ Laurence Piper: Thank you for seperating this topic as an extra thread, I should have done this in the first place. Kind regards, Oliver.
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Post by Tim Disney on Jul 25, 2009 3:12:37 GMT
Hi Oliver.
It's a shame that the studios have made way for retail as they look as though they were quite modern at the time and seemed to be set in what looked like a nice rural area in 1967. I'm sure that has changed in 2009 though. You can still see an aerial shot of the studios on Google Earth and they seem to be surrounded by retail and industrial properties. If only those bricks could talk :-)! What a great souvenir.
I've enjoyed some of those Vinyl programmes. The DLT Story was quite good fun and gave a taste of what was to come on The Story of Beat Club DVD set.
Thanks for the detailed update Oliver.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 18:31:08 GMT
Anyone here who's successfully ordered any of the Story Of Beat Club DVD sets from Amazon Germany? Just wasted a whole afternoon getting nowhere trying to wade through the German translation to register an account etc. Hopeless! Did anyone else find it THIS difficult?!? Frustration is not the word!
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Post by Tim Disney on Jul 27, 2009 22:47:21 GMT
Hi Laurence, The best thing to do is register with Amazon UK and then login to Amazon Germany with the same account. I think I loaded the same page into Google translate in another browser so that I could double check what I was agreeing to, although I found the procedure generally instinctive after using Amazon UK many times before. I believe that Google offer a browser extension download that allows you to hover the mouse over words and get an instant translation, although personally, I'm not a fan of letting Google get involved in everything I do online as a matter of course. Amazon usually have these discs in stock, so don't bother to upgrade the postage as the standard delivery is pretty quick. I ordered mine on a Friday and they were in my DVD player by Wednesday. Not bad, taking a weekend into account. ----------------------------------- Re: Radio Bremen studio demolition, I found these pictures taken from the front of the complex (The studios are behind the office block). It looks like it was taken just before demolition, judging by the temporary fencing that usually goes up to keep urban explorers and souvenir hunters out. static.panoramio.com/photos/original/15873348.jpgstatic.panoramio.com/photos/original/15873374.jpg
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Post by Bob Savage (robstar) on Jul 27, 2009 23:30:12 GMT
I gave up on Amazon and bought direct from a german seller on ebay, cheaper and easier (about half the price!)
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Jul 27, 2009 23:44:58 GMT
Hi timdisney, thank you for that photograph. This office block was part of the studios and it's red brickwall once had the Radio Bremen Station logo on it, this can be quite often seen in early editions of the "Musikladen" end credit sequence during the early 70's, where it is shown enlightened as a picture that was taken in the early evening hours after dawn. The Street in the foreground is the Hans-Bredow-Straße No.10, which was the postal adress for Radio Bremen Television for 40 years. Behind the fence to the left, you can see an opened red & white barrier that was the entrance to the sudios parking lot. On the right hand side, you can just see some of the flat roofs of the studios behind the trees. These studio buildings and their roofs (build in early 1967) can bee seen in Beat-Club No. 21 (24/06/1967) with P.P. Arnold singing "Picture me" outside on the lawn, as well as in Beat-Club No. 22 (22/07/1967) where Mike Leckebusch filmed the The Herd performing "I can fly" standing on top of these roofs and on various other places on the studios premises. You can even see the A 27 Motorway in the background, as all of the industrial park and the vegetation around didn't exist in early summer 1967, there was still lots of open space (and I wasn't even to be born before half a year later!). Regards, Oliver.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2009 10:31:48 GMT
Hi Laurence, The best thing to do is register with Amazon UK and then login to Amazon Germany with the same account. I think I loaded the same page into Google translate in another browser so that I could double check what I was agreeing to, although I found the procedure generally instinctive after using Amazon UK many times before. I believe that Google offer a browser extension download that allows you to hover the mouse over words and get an instant translation, although personally, I'm not a fan of letting Google get involved in everything I do online as a matter of course. Amazon usually have these discs in stock, so don't bother to upgrade the postage as the standard delivery is pretty quick. I ordered mine on a Friday and they were in my DVD player by Wednesday. Not bad, taking a weekend into account. Thanks for the suggestions, Tim. Update: i've tried what you suggested and (eventually - with the help of various online translations) managed to order the first volume! Phew! Getting the card details exact in another language is a job in itself! Once again, thanks for the help. I await the DVDs with anticipation...
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Post by James C on Jul 28, 2009 15:40:25 GMT
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Post by Paul Watkins on Jul 28, 2009 15:46:24 GMT
£7.49 per episode, that could add up if you wanted the lot Good find though
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Post by James C on Jul 28, 2009 18:38:54 GMT
£7.49 per episode, that could add up if you wanted the lot Good find though Handy though, if you only want a few episodes.
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Post by bleslie7 on Jul 31, 2009 8:11:21 GMT
That concert-on-line site is a great idea (thanks for letting us know Jason) and the first time such vintage music TV has been available to purchase and download. Hope this is just the start of things to come but I will not hold my breath.
As Episode 23 from Beat Club was not included in the Boxed Set DVD releases I decided to pay for and downloaded this one on-line. Took about half an hour to come through on my cable connection, you save it as an ISO file then burn it to DVD using common software programs such as RecordNow or Nero. Works a treat. The vision is in magnificent condition. They also supply a PDF file with the cover artwork as well.
Episode 23 has Dave Lee Travis and the female German co-host Uschi Nerke and all segments are intact as per original transmission except the Rolling Stones film clip for "We Love you" which obviously could not be cleared. The Scott McKenzie is the entire promo clip, not the Beat Club performance (or 1/2 and 1/2 which I have also seen as per Top Of the Pops 1967 Xmas Show) so this makes the episode unique and worthwhile. Not too many other highlights though, just flashbacks from older episodes. The segments such as the Top 7 are all definitely worth having though as they are unique to this show.
I have requested that the good people at Concert-on-line also make Episode 9 of Beat Club available (also consists of older flashbacks) as well as Episode 13, to enable us to complete our Beat Club libraries and they said they would look into this & come back to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2009 9:11:06 GMT
Does the process of downloading / burning to DVD filmise the episode or does it remain looking like video? I've had this problem before, which is why I asked.
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Post by Ray Langstone (was saintsray) on Jul 31, 2009 12:23:50 GMT
There's a clip - on one of the Beat Club COMPILATIONS which were issued a few years ago, where if memory serves the Small Faces are performing, and for a second or so the camera pans on to a bemused DLT! Always loved that bit! Think it's on the 'Wild Thing' compilation, which was a cheapy in the shops....
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Post by James C on Jul 31, 2009 16:14:38 GMT
That concert-on-line site is a great idea (thanks for letting us know Jason) and the first time such vintage music TV has been available to purchase and download. Hope this is just the start of things to come but I will not hold my breath. As Episode 23 from Beat Club was not included in the Boxed Set DVD releases I decided to pay for and downloaded this one on-line. Took about half an hour to come through on my cable connection, you save it as an ISO file then burn it to DVD using common software programs such as RecordNow or Nero. Works a treat. The vision is in magnificent condition. They also supply a PDF file with the cover artwork as well. Episode 23 has Dave Lee Travis and the female German co-host Uschi Nerke and all segments are intact as per original transmission except the Rolling Stones film clip for "We Love you" which obviously could not be cleared. The Scott McKenzie is the entire promo clip, not the Beat Club performance (or 1/2 and 1/2 which I have also seen as per Top Of the Pops 1967 Xmas Show) so this makes the episode unique and worthwhile. Not too many other highlights though, just flashbacks from older episodes. The segments such as the Top 7 are all definitely worth having though as they are unique to this show. I have requested that the good people at Concert-on-line also make Episode 9 of Beat Club available (also consists of older flashbacks) as well as Episode 13, to enable us to complete our Beat Club libraries and they said they would look into this & come back to me. Maybe the BBC could do the same thing for TOP OF THE POPS.
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Post by Tim Disney on Jul 31, 2009 18:34:45 GMT
Does the process of downloading / burning to DVD filmise the episode or does it remain looking like video? I've had this problem before, which is why I asked. Downloading an ISO file will allow you to burn your own DVD, so the quality should be as per any other DVD (i.e interlaced image for television and a preserved video effect, assuming the source material used is in this state.). You'll need software to convert the ISO to a DVD compatible set of files, but there are are lots of free programmes around to do that and it's quite a simple process. If you download from the video file option, it will have been de-interlaced for viewing on a computer monitor and have that horrid filmised effect. However, the file will be much smaller than 1.5 gigs of ISO. Hope that helps a bit. I'm just downloading episode 23 myself now, so will let you know if it's nasty.
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