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Post by mike phillips on Aug 11, 2009 8:35:51 GMT
Hello Mike, if you have a digital satellite system and you are living in the UK, you've got to to either turn your dish to the position of astra satellite at 19,2° east or you have to install a second LNB at this position and you'll need a DiSEqC switch to change between the two LNB's between your usual position at 28,2° east and the one for continental Europe at 19,2° east. You'll then have to add the ASTRA 1 satellite at 19,2° east to your receivers menue and you'll have to programme new transponders for this satellite, in case they are not already programmed. You'll find "Eins Festival", on which these TOTP shows are shown, on transponder 51, 10744, polarisation H (horizontal), symbol rate 22000, FEC 5/6. Oh, and maybe you'll need a larger dish for this, I'll recomand a size of 80 to 90 cm. This site may also be helpful for you to find it: www.lyngsat.com/astra19.htmlor this one: www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/digital-systems/138649-sky-dish-pick-up-19-2-a.htmlRegards, Oliver. Thanks Oliver
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Post by John Fleming on Aug 11, 2009 15:09:55 GMT
good stuff Oliver! i know theres a list of all the uk gold totp dates on wikipedia, so basically all the dates in between werent re-broadcast. also bear in mind there are a few wiped dates in 1976 & 1977. all the shows between jan 15th 1976 to 18th march 1976 were destroyed, and the following dates; 1976 jun 3 july 1 aug 12 sep 2 sep 16 nov 11 nov 18 dec 2 dec 16 1977 feb 10 mar 3 mar 31 jul 7 aug 4 sep 8 25/03/76 was also wiped but 07/07/77 definitely wasn't, it was shown on UK Gold. Pete Seaton says 10/02/77 wasn't wiped either contrary to popular belief and his book also lists 03/0/76 as existing. If Pete says they weren't wiped then that's good enough for me.
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Aug 11, 2009 22:44:07 GMT
As far as I know, they are not planning to re-broadcast any of the early shows that that they missed, as for 27/12/1974, I don't think so but I'm still waiting for an answer to my e-mail that I sended to them.
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Aug 12, 2009 0:41:32 GMT
The BBC did supply the newly edited copies, but the decision to cut them was made in Germany after an editorial meeting at "Eins Festival" in Cologne, so the BBC was not responsible for the cutting, sadly they only followed a demand from Germany.
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Post by Paul Dorf on Aug 12, 2009 0:52:37 GMT
[/quote] 25/03/76 was also wiped but 07/07/77 definitely wasn't, it was shown on UK Gold. Pete Seaton says 10/02/77 wasn't wiped either contrary to popular belief and his book also lists 03/0/76 as existing. If Pete says they weren't wiped then that's good enough for me.[/quote]
yep all correct, except 10 feb 77 isnt listed in the bbc databass so may be a recent find or an off air recording
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Post by Alan Turrell on Aug 12, 2009 16:38:03 GMT
I don't doubt for one minute that the decision to cut out Gary glitter was made in germany, but if these shows were ever put on bbc there is no question in my mind that they would also cut his performences out.
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Post by Oliver Roemer on Aug 12, 2009 17:45:52 GMT
Today, I got my reply e-mail from "Eins Festival" refering to why they didn't show the TOTP broadcast of 27/12/1974. According to Mr. Frank Diederichs at "Eins Festival", the tape they got from the BBC was probably a "rough cut" with "black screens" inbetween, "sounds" that were spoken or comming from the "off", "distorted pictures" and so on. He also wrote, that they couldn't get hold of any substitute material for it by the BBC and therefore the show was unsuitable for broadcasting. Isn't it strange, that sometimes the collectors have better or even perfect copies of a show in their hands, that the producing tv station hasn't got ?? Anyway, that's what they wrote to me and the Garry Glitter issue remains the same and unchanged. Regards, Oliver.
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Post by Pete Seaton on Aug 12, 2009 23:12:05 GMT
regarding TOTP 10/02/77. I have gone through the my archived copy of the infax database and it features the show. this database did say that it only lists shows that reside at the BBC and it also has a programme number, but no listing of what was on it. thus..... also exists at PVL. and audio in my own collection. 10 February 1977 • A television programme • BBC Programme Number: LLV2037E • First broadcast on 1977-02-10 • Next in series: 17 February 1977 • Previous in series: 03 February 1977 • See more TOP OF THE POPS programmes (1,758) Broadcast history • 10 Feb 1977 19:11-19:46 (BBC 1) Feeds • RDF TOP OF THE POPS - 10 February 1977 Image.Moving.TV BBC en Copyright: (C) British Broadcasting Corporation, see backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/05/api_licence.html for terms and conditions of reuse 1977-02-10 1900-01-01 1977-02-10T00:00:00Z TOP OF THE POPS from my own archives and book it is listed as existing in audio and videotape. TOP OF THE POPS 10/02/77 (BBC1 7.11pm - 7.46pm) (Full edition exists) + audio exists (PVL) © Introduced by Dave Lee Travis Sailor - One drink too many (Studio) Detroit Spinners -Wake up susan (Promo) Kiki Dee - First thing in the morning (Studio) Boston - More than a feeling (Promo) Brotherhood Of Man - Oh boy (Studio) Bryan Ferry - This is timorrow (Promo) Racing Cars - They shoot horses don’t they (Studio) Heatwave - Boogie nights (Legs & co) Johnny Nash - Birds of a feather (Studio) Julie Covington - Don’t cry for me Argentina (Promo/Credits)
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Post by John Fleming on Aug 13, 2009 13:48:38 GMT
I've recently been told by a reliable source that none of the TOTP in the PVL are complete before 1979.
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Post by Paul Dorf on Aug 13, 2009 16:31:04 GMT
there are several mistakes in the bbc catalogue of which 10/02/77 is one.
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Post by Tim Disney on Aug 15, 2009 4:08:50 GMT
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Post by Chris Barratt on Aug 15, 2009 14:49:21 GMT
I doubt whether such a perfect copy of 27/12/74 would be in circulation if it didn't exist at the BBC - it is digital perfection par excellence, as per the uncoded copy of 28/12/72. Having personally spoken to Ken, the chap who built up the Private Video Library, he assured me the TOTP's are complete as per the list, with the incomplete shows dating from pre-1977. He also said his copy of the 500th is complete as originally broadcast. All were recorded in colour on early types of VCR, and all could be restored to colour using the correct methods of playback (varying as per tape type)
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Post by Paul Watkins on Aug 15, 2009 17:49:28 GMT
Does anyone still have a link to his website listing, i seem to have lost it.
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Post by James C on Aug 16, 2009 0:09:37 GMT
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Post by John Fleming on Aug 16, 2009 8:02:59 GMT
Having personally spoken to Ken, the chap who built up the Private Video Library, he assured me the TOTP's are complete as per the list, with the incomplete shows dating from pre-1977. He also said his copy of the 500th is complete as originally broadcast. All were recorded in colour on early types of VCR, and all could be restored to colour using the correct methods of playback (varying as per tape type) That is interesting. Two people had said he only had about a third of the 500th, and the bloke who told me everything pre-1979 was incomplete said he was in contact with Ken and could get me a complete edition from the PVL in exchange for some rare Pans People clips. I sent him a couple of short poor quality clips to prove I had the stuff and said I would send the DVD once 04/08/77 was in my possession. He said that neither of the 2 shows I had expressed an interest in, 08/09/77 being the other, were complete, and specifically that the Television and Jam clips I had asked about were not in the collection.
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