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Post by Stephen Doran on Feb 15, 2009 15:18:26 GMT
Not at all Alec its OK
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Post by Peter Kane on Mar 7, 2009 12:42:20 GMT
Before this thread disappears down the list, is there anyone who has any ideas as to what could be done to maybe get the BBC to show episodes from this series again? I mean, specifically, who could we contact . . . any names?
Any other thoughts appreciated, TA!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2009 14:37:05 GMT
The same problem applies as regards getting the BBC to show ANY archive series! I'd like to see what's left of The Troubleshooters myself, Alec, along with Z-Cars, The Wednesday Play, Jazz 625, Comedy Playhouse, Play For Today and a whole host of others. All this stuff just sitting there. DVD release is the most likely option (although not THAT likely with these series, it seems, as despite the mountain of stuff now available, many obvious programmes are still ignored) rather than repeats. Maybe once an online video-on-demand thing is finally established, this may be the best route in the long-term for these kind of things. Not much help right now though.
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Post by adriane17 on Apr 10, 2009 11:53:04 GMT
I've seen at least a couple of Mogul/Troubleshooters over the years at The BFI (one at least was at a Missing Believed Wiped so at least there is hope for further finds) and a DVD release of at least a few would be appreciated. We are probably back in "the public isn't interested in monochrome material" mentality that seems to rule the roost at 2Entertain/BBC DVD these days - unless of course it is "telefantasy" and even there where is a DVD of Out Of The Unknown for heaven's sake.
The Power Game was an extremely highly regraded programme in the 1960s - both ratings and critic wise and would likely as not have continued but for the death of Patrick Wymark. Thankfully we have it all (if not available in colour as regards the final season for some reason). John Lennon was a fan as well - not that it makes any difference!
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Post by Mark Smith on Apr 10, 2009 12:12:22 GMT
All this stuff just sitting there. DVD release is the most likely option (although not THAT likely with these series, it seems, as despite the mountain of stuff now available, many obvious programmes are still ignored) rather than repeats. I believe the only way this stuff is likely to see the light of day on DVD would be if an outside party were to come in and exploit the BBC archive, in much the same way as Network have successfully done with ITV (through their Granada Ventures contract). Network have admirably proved that while profit margins are quite small, it is commercially feasible to do this. Unfortunately, it's unreasonable to expect them to cover all commercial bases, including BBC archive material. Until such a company exists, I fear we'll remain frustrated at the continuing unexploited nature of much of the BBC archives, especially if one continues to rely on 2Entertain, as I doubt they'll ever fulfill that role.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 15:19:36 GMT
The Power Game was an extremely highly regraded programme in the 1960s - both ratings and critic wise and would likely as not have continued but for the death of Patrick Wymark. Thankfully we have it all (if not available in colour as regards the final season for some reason). The whole series was made in b/w. Series 3 was transmitted just before colour began on ITV.
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Post by adriane17 on Apr 11, 2009 6:13:08 GMT
Sorry - I'd read in a review somewhere that the third series of The Power Game was filmed in colour. The reviewer was bemoaning the "fact" that Network was only releasing monochrome prints. Just shows you can't trust the critics!
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Post by Gary Critcher on Apr 11, 2009 10:55:50 GMT
'I believe the only way this stuff is likely to see the light of day on DVD would be if an outside party were to come in and exploit the BBC archive'
We could do this, couldn't we? Start a company formed by likeminded people who want to see this series 'properly' released. BUT.............it's obviously going to cost thousands! Now, would anyone know, just for example, know just how much it would cost to licence the programmes from the BBC for worldwide (?) release, then shoot some interviews with the cast etc., edit, and finally produce the dvd's and sleeves etc. I'd be VERY interested to see a final figure.
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Post by Mark Smith on Apr 11, 2009 15:17:10 GMT
I think only a very rough 'ball-park figure could be guessed at, and even that would be subject to negotiations at the various stages of putting the product together.
No disrespect to your idea (or indeed enthusiasm) Gary, but I'm personally not entirely in favour of enthusiasts trying for this kind of thing.
You might be better considering starting a specialised archive television DVD release enterprise (along the lines of Network or John Williams Productions from Scotland) with a view to specifically exploiting the BBC archives rather than focusing on just one individual title.
And remember, whatever you do achieve, the company has to be commercially viable and successful more or less from the outset, or it'll fold pretty damn quick.
An idea of starting such a company isn't as unrealistic as it sounds. The expertise certainly exists with the very enthusiasts who frequent this (and other forums), but the required finance during the current recession might be one hurdle too much for the time being.
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Post by adriane17 on Apr 12, 2009 9:28:54 GMT
Slightly on a tangent I remember reading years ago that some of the individual ITV companies and those making programmes for the network (such as ITC) were willing to sell private individuals copies of programmes for their own personal use. The price was, as you might expect, prohibitive. This was pre home video days.
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Post by Peter Kane on Apr 20, 2009 7:38:15 GMT
Does anyone have any contacts at the BBC that I can write to, who might be receptive to the idea that a fair few people would like to see some repeats of The Troubleshooters?
I wonder if there is anything specific that can be suggested to them, such as an 'anniversary' of something, or someone? Things like that could be 'why' a repeat could/should be shown.
Just grasping at straws, really.
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Post by Peter Kane on Jun 9, 2009 17:11:03 GMT
Does anyone have any contacts at the BBC that I can write to, who might be receptive to the idea that a fair few people would like to see some repeats of The Troubleshooters? I wonder if there is anything specific that can be suggested to them, such as an 'anniversary' of something, or someone? Things like that could be 'why' a repeat could/should be shown. Just grasping at straws, really. Anyone?
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Post by Gary Critcher on Jun 9, 2009 18:40:59 GMT
'No disrespect to your idea (or indeed enthusiasm) Gary, but I'm personally not entirely in favour of enthusiasts trying for this kind of thing.' Erm.................I'm not an enthusiast (well, I am), but I have helped produce stuff for the Formula 1 TV and BBC4 in the past. I shoot and edit my own motorsport DVD's & have worked in television for the past 25 years too, just not in this sort of field. Still didn't get an answer for the privce for all of this. Does anyone even have a BALLPARK figure for licencing series from the BBC?
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Post by Peter Stirling on Jun 9, 2009 19:22:09 GMT
'No disrespect to your idea (or indeed enthusiasm) Gary, but I'm personally not entirely in favour of enthusiasts trying for this kind of thing.' Erm.................I'm not an enthusiast (well, I am), but I have helped produce stuff for the Formula 1 TV and BBC4 in the past. I shoot and edit my own motorsport DVD's & have worked in television for the past 25 years too, just not in this sort of field. Still didn't get an answer for the privce for all of this. Does anyone even have a BALLPARK figure for licencing series from the BBC? ..and of course no good deed goes unpunished as granny use to say. If you were starting from fresh You would need a thick skin to put up with what companies like Network have to put up with so called enthusiasts' IE you struggle to get copyright clearance and a release into the DVD packet , taking a gamble that somebody is actually going to buy it and then all you get is complaints "the advert breaks are missing" "the music coming out the radio in scene 10 is missing" " there is a blob of dirt on frame 111889900" "its in black and white" " there is a hum" " the Australian one is so much better" " the DVD case is terrible" moan! moan! moan ! and all you were trying to do is help these people relive their memories
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Post by Gary Critcher on Jun 9, 2009 20:18:58 GMT
LOL! Absolutely!!
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