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Post by Thomas Walsh on Nov 17, 2009 20:47:48 GMT
Chances of finding footage of the band would increase if they appeared in the 54m version released theatrically in 1970, but that is something no one involved in the film has been able to tell me. I suspect the only people who could are the band members themselves. I'll do my best to make some enquiries on that point above Peter. Thanks for the answers guys, keep up the sterling work. T.
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Dec 10, 2009 8:00:08 GMT
Just wanted to let you know Peter (and the rest of you) that NONE of The Idle Race guys remember one jot about appearing in the movie..... Weird eh? T.
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 10, 2009 12:25:01 GMT
Just wanted to let you know Peter (and the rest of you) that NONE of The Idle Race guys remember one jot about appearing in the movie..... Weird eh? T. Weird indeed, Thomas, but something I have become accustomed to: a film that no one can remember appearing in! While I'm here, a request... If anyone reading this thread saw Popdown and can recall the slightest thing about it, please contact me. I would be especially interested to hear from anyone who attended the Classic Cinema, King's Road, 'Premiere' c.1969 - an event that has given rise to a number of differing accounts.
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Post by ajsmith on Dec 11, 2009 19:53:21 GMT
Hey Pete, any news on the contents of those 16mm films yet? Sorry to ask again but I can't help wondering what their contents are...
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 11, 2009 20:16:42 GMT
Hey Pete, any news on the contents of those 16mm films yet? Sorry to ask again but I can't help wondering what their contents are... Not yet AJ - I'm just waiting to get the green light from Chris Perry and the boys at Kal to travel up to view them. Apologies for the long wait, but all should be revealed shortly.
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Post by garymiller on Dec 14, 2009 13:39:28 GMT
First post, so be gentle!
I first became aware of this film during the late 80's, when a then good work mate put me onto it. I have been collecting obscure British psychedelic artifacts since the early 80's and my pal at the time was a few years older than me and lived in London between '64 - '73. He was involved in the Ladbroke Grove hippie thing for some time and although heavily into Hawkwind and The Pink Fairies, also remembered and attended the earlier events and happenings at UFO, Middle Earth and Implosion. The stories he would tell about the bands he witnessed used to fill me with envy. Anyway, one such band was Dantalians Chariot, which came into conversation when I bought a copy of their rare '67 single. He recalled seeing them a few times at Middle Earth, but also recalled that they were pretty unspectacular, really. He remembered Zoot Money from his Big Roll band days and thought they were much better musically that the Chariot. At this point he brought up the subject of the film Pop Down, which he saw sometime around '69/'70 and seemed to remember that the film showed footage of the band at Middle Earth. To be honest, he was more than a little hazy about it, but he remembered snippets as he was also into Science Fiction film, too, and subsequently brought in a book that made mention of the film. I can't remember what it was called, but it also mentioned Blossom Toes (who, incidently, he remembered as a straight pop band rather than psychedelic). This ignited an interest, and I started doing some digging around on the collectors scene and that's where I became aware of the Scala screening. Unfortunately, not living in London made it impossible to get to the screening, but I knew people that did go along, and my friends recollection of footage from Middle Earth appeared to be wide of the mark, although this could have possibly been edited out? Anyway, a few years later I still couldn't find out too much about the film (Pre-net days!), so contacted the BFI to see if they could help. It took a while and a few works time phone calls, but eventually they gave me a phone number for Fred Marshall. I can't remember if it was his direct number, probably not, but I did eventually speak to him about the film. He was very pleasant, and seemed genuinely pleased and surprised that anyone would remember, let alone be interested. He was aware of the Scala screening and definitely confirmed that he still had a copy at that time. He even suggested that he would be happy to arrange a screening event if there was enough interest, but this never came off due the costs involved. I did pass on his contact details to a friend that was running his own record label re-issuing old psychedelic tracks at the time and would have been prepared to help fund the event, but I don't think that he moved it any further forward. Fast forward to today, and still my fascination with this film survives. I googled it randomly and came across this site and have enjoyed reading through the posts of the efforts to find an elusive copy. I also have learned that Fred Marshall has since passed away(?), which is also very sad. So, good luck Peter, I'll be stopping by to see if there is any more news and hopefully, one day, we might get to see the full edition!
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 14, 2009 15:27:09 GMT
First post, so be gentle! I first became aware of this film during the late 80's, when a then good work mate put me onto it. I have been collecting obscure British psychedelic artifacts since the early 80's and my pal at the time was a few years older than me and lived in London between '64 - '73. He was involved in the Ladbroke Grove hippie thing for some time and although heavily into Hawkwind and The Pink Fairies, also remembered and attended the earlier events and happenings at UFO, Middle Earth and Implosion. The stories he would tell about the bands he witnessed used to fill me with envy. Anyway, one such band was Dantalians Chariot, which came into conversation when I bought a copy of their rare '67 single. He recalled seeing them a few times at Middle Earth, but also recalled that they were pretty unspectacular, really. He remembered Zoot Money from his Big Roll band days and thought they were much better musically that the Chariot. At this point he brought up the subject of the film Pop Down, which he saw sometime around '69/'70 and seemed to remember that the film showed footage of the band at Middle Earth. To be honest, he was more than a little hazy about it, but he remembered snippets as he was also into Science Fiction film, too, and subsequently brought in a book that made mention of the film. I can't remember what it was called, but it also mentioned Blossom Toes (who, incidently, he remembered as a straight pop band rather than psychedelic). This ignited an interest, and I started doing some digging around on the collectors scene and that's where I became aware of the Scala screening. Unfortunately, not living in London made it impossible to get to the screening, but I knew people that did go along, and my friends recollection of footage from Middle Earth appeared to be wide of the mark, although this could have possibly been edited out? Anyway, a few years later I still couldn't find out too much about the film (Pre-net days!), so contacted the BFI to see if they could help. It took a while and a few works time phone calls, but eventually they gave me a phone number for Fred Marshall. I can't remember if it was his direct number, probably not, but I did eventually speak to him about the film. He was very pleasant, and seemed genuinely pleased and surprised that anyone would remember, let alone be interested. He was aware of the Scala screening and definitely confirmed that he still had a copy at that time. He even suggested that he would be happy to arrange a screening event if there was enough interest, but this never came off due the costs involved. I did pass on his contact details to a friend that was running his own record label re-issuing old psychedelic tracks at the time and would have been prepared to help fund the event, but I don't think that he moved it any further forward. Fast forward to today, and still my fascination with this film survives. I googled it randomly and came across this site and have enjoyed reading through the posts of the efforts to find an elusive copy. I also have learned that Fred Marshall has since passed away(?), which is also very sad. So, good luck Peter, I'll be stopping by to see if there is any more news and hopefully, one day, we might get to see the full edition! Welcome aboard Gary, and many thanks for posting. Fred said he didn't have the film when contacted in 2000, so your revelation that he had a copy post-Scala is extremely significant; as is the news he was aware of the screening in 1984, because the source of the print shown that night has still to be determined. For what it's worth, my own pet theory is that it somehow emanated from Fred in Hong Kong. I have nothing to back this theory up except for the presence of a few bars of what sounds like the music to a Kung-Fu film right at the start of the audio recording I made. It's too incongruous to be a part of the Popdown soundtrack, which leads me to suspect it's an ident of some description - possibly for one of Freddy's Hong Kong production companies. Either that or it had something to do with the Scala. It certainly wasn't present at the beginning of either of the two 25m prints. Why do you say your friend's recollection of Dantalian's Chariot's Middle Earth footage appeared to be wide of the mark? It's a question I thought I ought to ask as my own memories of their appearance proved way off beam, and Zoot Money has given conflicting accounts as well.
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Post by garymiller on Dec 14, 2009 16:14:30 GMT
Hi Peter,
An earlier post mentioned that the Scala screening was arranged in conjunction with the organizers of the Alice an Wonderland club events. Prior to these events some of the same people were running club nights in Piccadilly under the name The Groovy Cellar(Clive Soloman was the DJ there, too), and were also associated with a retro clothes shop called The Regal, originally a stall in Kensington Market which then moved to permanent premises in Newburgh Street. I attended quite a few Friday night events at The Groovy Cellar and got to know some of the organizers. These were the people that attended the Scala screening and I remember them telling me that as far as they could tell, Middle Earth didn't feature in the footage. My old work friend, by his own admission, was partial to the odd chemical experiment back in the sixties(!), so that lead to my assumption that there probably weren't any club scenes included from the Covent Garden club. What is certain, however, is that Dantalians Chariot (for their relatively brief existence) and Blossom Toes were regular performers at the club, and Brian Auger certainly played there, too. Couple this with the apparent different cuts of the film and he may well be right that it was included in the full version that he witnessed back in the late sixties, but perhaps not in the version screened back in '84. Unfortunately, he moved away a few years ago and we have since lost touch, so I'm unable to quiz him further, I'm afraid. A late post script to the Dantalians Chariot story saw both Zoot Money and Andy Somers (later of The Police)join a late '68 version of Eric Burdon and the Animals and completely re-record Madman for inclusion on their album Love Is, and very good it is, too!
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 14, 2009 18:50:39 GMT
Hi Peter, An earlier post mentioned that the Scala screening was arranged in conjunction with the organizers of the Alice an Wonderland club events. Prior to these events some of the same people were running club nights in Piccadilly under the name The Groovy Cellar(Clive Soloman was the DJ there, too), and were also associated with a retro clothes shop called The Regal, originally a stall in Kensington Market which then moved to permanent premises in Newburgh Street. I attended quite a few Friday night events at The Groovy Cellar and got to know some of the organizers. These were the people that attended the Scala screening and I remember them telling me that as far as they could tell, Middle Earth didn't feature in the footage. My old work friend, by his own admission, was partial to the odd chemical experiment back in the sixties(!), so that lead to my assumption that there probably weren't any club scenes included from the Covent Garden club. What is certain, however, is that Dantalians Chariot (for their relatively brief existence) and Blossom Toes were regular performers at the club, and Brian Auger certainly played there, too. Couple this with the apparent different cuts of the film and he may well be right that it was included in the full version that he witnessed back in the late sixties, but perhaps not in the version screened back in '84. Unfortunately, he moved away a few years ago and we have since lost touch, so I'm unable to quiz him further, I'm afraid. A late post script to the Dantalians Chariot story saw both Zoot Money and Andy Somers (later of The Police)join a late '68 version of Eric Burdon and the Animals and completely re-record Madman for inclusion on their album Love Is, and very good it is, too! Hi Gary, thanks for trying to clear that little mystery up. The Dantalian's sequence has been the subject of much confusion, with neither of Zoot's accounts appearing to be accurate. He told me he remembered it being filmed at the Cromwellian in the company of Luis Bonfa and midgets, which contradicted his earlier reminiscence in the booklet of the Chariot Rising CD of it being filmed at a gig in Chelmsford in 1967. It definitely wasn't filmed in 1967, that is one thing I can be certain of. Richard de Clare is convinced it was filmed at Middle Earth, despite the venue's absence from the locations listed in the film's press book. The press book is riddled with inaccuracies, so that probably doesn't mean a great deal. IF it was filmed at Middle Earth (and it does seem likely looking at the group's concert schedule), my guess is it was shot on 13/04/68 - Dantalian's last London date. I should report it was filmed at a proper gig and wasn't set up especially for Popdown; it was also shot in available light, which means the only really decent shots are those that are illuminated by the band's strobe lighting effects. The Madman Running Through the Fields is preceded by just over 30 seconds of sonic experimentation which I believe IS Dantalian's Chariot (more likely a concert recording than unreleased studio material). As no sound is supposed to have been recorded for the film, its source is a complete mystery. I have no idea where the Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity sequence was filmed. The only clue I have is the band are seen playing on a mosaic-floored stage. It could be France as the 25m prints contain footage of Jools and Brian on the beach at Cannes. Again, like the Dantalian's sequence, it was filmed at a real concert. (The overseas sequences present their own problems as Fred Marshall hired local camera crews; Oliver Wood & Co. had no involvement in the film outside of London and its environs.) The Blossom Toes sequence is the most mysterious of all (how I wish I had kept the notes I made in 1984!). None of the band can remember anything about it, and neither can anyone else. Is there anybody out there with the faintest recollection of their appearance?
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Post by Thomas Walsh on Dec 15, 2009 5:49:18 GMT
Jeez..there's veterans from the first world war who can give vivid recollections of opening a can of beans in a trench but no-one has the foggiest notion of this bloody movie!! ;D
I wouldn't even blame drugs as 'The Idle Race' were only partial to beers and extra-hot curries!!
On the subject of Fred Marshal owning a copy (as Gary has mentioned) but you say he didn't have one when you spoke to him Peter..is it possible that the infamous copy that was hyped and advertised as to be screened at a rare film convention in the late 90's (not sure when?) but turned out to be dust when they opened it, was possibly Fred's only copy given for a screening he eventually thought he was getting?
Just a thought..
T.
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 15, 2009 12:09:53 GMT
Jeez..there's veterans from the first world war who can give vivid recollections of opening a can of beans in a trench but no-one has the foggiest notion of this bloody movie!! ;D I wouldn't even blame drugs as 'The Idle Race' were only partial to beers and extra-hot curries!! On the subject of Fred Marshal owning a copy (as Gary has mentioned) but you say he didn't have one when you spoke to him Peter..is it possible that the infamous copy that was hyped and advertised as to be screened at a rare film convention in the late 90's (not sure when?) but turned out to be dust when they opened it, was possibly Fred's only copy given for a screening he eventually thought he was getting? Just a thought.. T. Yes, Thomas, the collective amnesia surrounding this film is very, very peculiar. Drugs ARE one explanation, as several participants have admitted, but it seems to have affected everybody - even those of us present at the screening in 1984. The legendary Lenny Helsing (of Green Telescope/Thanes fame) was one such person. Lenny contacted me in June to tell me he had attended the event and that he, like myself, had difficulty recalling anything about the picture. He did remember a band of some description going round a lamppost, which tallied with a vague memory I had of a permed and flared trousered group messing about on what I thought was a children's roundabout (I know what you're thinking, Thomas...). And I definitely remember their appearance provoked some derisive laughter, and this is what I think is picked up at 01.43 in the audio recording. (Another vague memory I have, which may just as easily be a product of my imagination, is of a clear demarcation between the London and overseas sequences - possibly through the device of Zoot looking through a telescope. I'm sure I can recall wishing for the film to return to London at some juncture.) Lenny also told me he had recently reconnected with someone he went with that night who had no recollection of seeing the film whatsoever! As for Fred owning a copy... I never got to speak to Fred, but Martin Lewis - the man behind the aborted 2000 screening - did, and Fred said he didn't have a copy; indeed, he said he was actually searching for a print himself. Fred even claimed Michael Caine had enquired about the film. In light of Gary's revelations, two important questions immediately spring to mind: 1. Did Fred physically have a copy in Hong Kong, or was he referring to the print screened at the Scala and most likely in the hands of Charles Cooper at Contemporary Films - the print I believe was the one destroyed? 2. If he did have his own copy c.1988, what became of it? I don't think he could have been referring to the material found in his library.
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Post by garymiller on Dec 15, 2009 12:31:45 GMT
Hi Peter, An earlier post mentioned that the Scala screening was arranged in conjunction with the organizers of the Alice an Wonderland club events. Prior to these events some of the same people were running club nights in Piccadilly under the name The Groovy Cellar(Clive Soloman was the DJ there, too), and were also associated with a retro clothes shop called The Regal, originally a stall in Kensington Market which then moved to permanent premises in Newburgh Street. I attended quite a few Friday night events at The Groovy Cellar and got to know some of the organizers. These were the people that attended the Scala screening and I remember them telling me that as far as they could tell, Middle Earth didn't feature in the footage. My old work friend, by his own admission, was partial to the odd chemical experiment back in the sixties(!), so that lead to my assumption that there probably weren't any club scenes included from the Covent Garden club. What is certain, however, is that Dantalians Chariot (for their relatively brief existence) and Blossom Toes were regular performers at the club, and Brian Auger certainly played there, too. Couple this with the apparent different cuts of the film and he may well be right that it was included in the full version that he witnessed back in the late sixties, but perhaps not in the version screened back in '84. Unfortunately, he moved away a few years ago and we have since lost touch, so I'm unable to quiz him further, I'm afraid. A late post script to the Dantalians Chariot story saw both Zoot Money and Andy Somers (later of The Police)join a late '68 version of Eric Burdon and the Animals and completely re-record Madman for inclusion on their album Love Is, and very good it is, too! Hi Gary, thanks for trying to clear that little mystery up. The Dantalian's sequence has been the subject of much confusion, with neither of Zoot's accounts appearing to be accurate. He told me he remembered it being filmed at the Cromwellian in the company of Luis Bonfa and midgets, which contradicted his earlier reminiscence in the booklet of the Chariot Rising CD of it being filmed at a gig in Chelmsford in 1967. It definitely wasn't filmed in 1967, that is one thing I can be certain of. Richard de Clare is convinced it was filmed at Middle Earth, despite the venue's absence from the locations listed in the film's press book. The press book is riddled with inaccuracies, so that probably doesn't mean a great deal. IF it was filmed at Middle Earth (and it does seem likely looking at the group's concert schedule), my guess is it was shot on 13/04/68 - Dantalian's last London date. I should report it was filmed at a proper gig and wasn't set up especially for Popdown; it was also shot in available light, which means the only really decent shots are those that are illuminated by the band's strobe lighting effects. The Madman Running Through the Fields is preceded by just over 30 seconds of sonic experimentation which I believe IS Dantalian's Chariot (more likely a concert recording than unreleased studio material). As no sound is supposed to have been recorded for the film, its source is a complete mystery. I have no idea where the Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity sequence was filmed. The only clue I have is the band are seen playing on a mosaic-floored stage. It could be France as the 25m prints contain footage of Jools and Brian on the beach at Cannes. Again, like the Dantalian's sequence, it was filmed at a real concert. (The overseas sequences present their own problems as Fred Marshall hired local camera crews; Oliver Wood & Co. had no involvement in the film outside of London and its environs.) The Blossom Toes sequence is the most mysterious of all (how I wish I had kept the notes I made in 1984!). None of the band can remember anything about it, and neither can anyone else. Is there anybody out there with the faintest recollection of their appearance? Hi Peter, I'm interested in the press book that you mention - did you get it from the BFI? I ask because as I kept pestering them back in the early 90's, they eventually sent me an A4 envelope of everything that they had in their archive at that time. It's probably the same document as you have - listing actors and production credits etc, but there were some other small bits and pieces. I still have this somewhere in the house, so I'll have a look over the weekend to see if I can find it. Middle Earth didn't get a credit, but the book that I mentioned that was shown to me by my old colleague years ago definitely quoted that the film was shot in and around Covent Garden, and 43 King Street is just about as central as you can get in Covent Garden! I may give another old friend from my collecting days a call this weekend. I mentioned earlier that he used to run his own label and was something of a major 60's archivist. We've not been in touch for many years now, but he was very excited when I mentioned this film to him all those years ago. I know at one point he was planning to try and contact Blossom Toes members about their back catalogue, but as none of their recordings ever appeared on his label he might have been unsuccessful. It's a long shot, but if I can dig out his phone number I'll try calling him at the weekend to see if he ever did any of his own investigations.
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Post by davemachin on Dec 15, 2009 13:31:45 GMT
I've been watching with interest this thread and the long and winding story of Pop Down! I can't add anything useful to the conversation but I just hope that when all the footage is gathered up in one place, we get a chance to see it or own a dvd release. It sounds a fascinating piece of obscure pop history!
Dave
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 15, 2009 15:05:34 GMT
Hi Gary, thanks for trying to clear that little mystery up. The Dantalian's sequence has been the subject of much confusion, with neither of Zoot's accounts appearing to be accurate. He told me he remembered it being filmed at the Cromwellian in the company of Luis Bonfa and midgets, which contradicted his earlier reminiscence in the booklet of the Chariot Rising CD of it being filmed at a gig in Chelmsford in 1967. It definitely wasn't filmed in 1967, that is one thing I can be certain of. Richard de Clare is convinced it was filmed at Middle Earth, despite the venue's absence from the locations listed in the film's press book. The press book is riddled with inaccuracies, so that probably doesn't mean a great deal. IF it was filmed at Middle Earth (and it does seem likely looking at the group's concert schedule), my guess is it was shot on 13/04/68 - Dantalian's last London date. I should report it was filmed at a proper gig and wasn't set up especially for Popdown; it was also shot in available light, which means the only really decent shots are those that are illuminated by the band's strobe lighting effects. The Madman Running Through the Fields is preceded by just over 30 seconds of sonic experimentation which I believe IS Dantalian's Chariot (more likely a concert recording than unreleased studio material). As no sound is supposed to have been recorded for the film, its source is a complete mystery. I have no idea where the Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity sequence was filmed. The only clue I have is the band are seen playing on a mosaic-floored stage. It could be France as the 25m prints contain footage of Jools and Brian on the beach at Cannes. Again, like the Dantalian's sequence, it was filmed at a real concert. (The overseas sequences present their own problems as Fred Marshall hired local camera crews; Oliver Wood & Co. had no involvement in the film outside of London and its environs.) The Blossom Toes sequence is the most mysterious of all (how I wish I had kept the notes I made in 1984!). None of the band can remember anything about it, and neither can anyone else. Is there anybody out there with the faintest recollection of their appearance? Hi Peter, I'm interested in the press book that you mention - did you get it from the BFI? I ask because as I kept pestering them back in the early 90's, they eventually sent me an A4 envelope of everything that they had in their archive at that time. It's probably the same document as you have - listing actors and production credits etc, but there were some other small bits and pieces. I still have this somewhere in the house, so I'll have a look over the weekend to see if I can find it. Middle Earth didn't get a credit, but the book that I mentioned that was shown to me by my old colleague years ago definitely quoted that the film was shot in and around Covent Garden, and 43 King Street is just about as central as you can get in Covent Garden! I may give another old friend from my collecting days a call this weekend. I mentioned earlier that he used to run his own label and was something of a major 60's archivist. We've not been in touch for many years now, but he was very excited when I mentioned this film to him all those years ago. I know at one point he was planning to try and contact Blossom Toes members about their back catalogue, but as none of their recordings ever appeared on his label he might have been unsuccessful. It's a long shot, but if I can dig out his phone number I'll try calling him at the weekend to see if he ever did any of his own investigations. Hi Gary, Yes, I did get my press book/poster from the BFI - I've no doubt it's the same document. Actually, there is some speculation as to whether it's just a proof that ended up in their hands; Fred sold a copy he described as such which included handwritten corrections to the film's printed length and running time. I learnt of its existence through an enquiry I made into the source of the BFI's library synopsis - a synopsis which contains information unavailable elsewhere. Such is its importance that I thought it worth quoting here in full: "A social satire told against a background of modern-day society, which uses a set of space characters to illustrate the decadence of our cosmopolitan environment. Pop music with: Brian Auger, The Blossom Toes, Luiz Bonfa, Ali Bongo, Christopher, Julie Driscoll, Zoot Money, Nanette, Pan's People, Lord Sitar, Maria Toledo, The Tree, Brenton Wood." It's the arbitrary cast list that is so fascinating. I'm not sure how Pan's People came to be credited - everytime I have raised the issue of their making an appearance it has been dismissed out of hand. I can only assume, therefore, they have been mistaken for the Treasure Chest dancers, the resident go-go girls of Miami's Seven Seas Lounge (and not the Buccaneer Lounge as is listed in the press book). Intriguingly, however, the synopsis correctly lists Lord Sitar, a name nowhere to be seen in the press book. How could whoever wrote the synopsis know of their involvement? As Lord Sitar weren't a 'real' act, simply a joint recording project of John Hawkins and Big Jim Sullivan, there was no possiblity of an onscreen contribution, so I can only conclude their name appeared on the film's credit sequence. John Hawkins, for his part, had never heard of Popdown until I contacted him and is adamant his material had been used without his permission. Then there is the mystery of 'The Tree'. Who, or what, were they? If they were a musical act then I haven't heard of them. I have been unable to find their name on any concert billing and they certainly never made any records. And before anyone asks, I don't believe they had anything to do with the Trees, the later folk-rock act. As for Christopher... he was a lion: the film had its own 'mod' menagerie which included a leopard called Michael, a monkey and Jimmy, a ski-ing chimpanzee from Hamburg Zoo! The press book was all I obtained from the BFI, Gary, so if there is anything else by all means dig it out. Documentation of any description is almost non-existent, so any new information takes on an added importance.
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Post by Peter Prentice on Dec 15, 2009 15:20:34 GMT
I've been watching with interest this thread and the long and winding story of Pop Down! I can't add anything useful to the conversation but I just hope that when all the footage is gathered up in one place, we get a chance to see it or own a dvd release. It sounds a fascinating piece of obscure pop history! Dave Hi Dave, glad you're keeping pace with us. Yes, I intend to see that every scrap of material relating to the film sees the light of day, whether a reconstruction is possible or not - in much the same way as the BBC have done with their Doctor Who releases.
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