Africa Progress

[Doug Wulf]

lancem said:

I am sure if any material was found that It would be released on DVD as soon as they could. Since the last recovered episode was just in time for the "Lost In Time" DVD set ( Favorite Release To Date, although I was impressed with all the extras and work on the Inferno release) and sold quite well having a episode of William Hartnell's that no one had seen for decades ! The BBC know there is a huge fan base for classic Dr Who, And I am sure they will want to cash in on this if any further lost material is uncovered. Hopefully one day we will see " Doctor Who: The Classic Years : The Lost and Found Collection" or something like that. More than likely if only a few orphan episodes are recovered they will probably be added as extras along a similar era or Doctor release.

Lance.

All speculation aside, it still seems much more likely that no missing episode whatsoever will be found.

However, the possibility of finding an episode would increase if missing BBC programmes were sought in conjunction with overall archive reorganizations in these locations. It seems more likely that 'Web of Fear: Part 4' would be tossed in among a thousand other unlabelled 16mm films that were long ago forgotten. That sort of recovery would come about once the entire archives was put in order but perhaps not otherwise.

Yet, given that it would at least be possible for these missing episodes still to exist in Africa and that there are still quite a few places to search for them that have not been investigated carefully, it seems worthwhile to search as completely as it is feasible to do.

[Brian Wilson]

Some publicity in Zambia.

This story was also printed in the hard-copy.

www.lowdown.co.zm/2007/2007-05/drwho.htm

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Check out the Bruce Grenville and Sue Malden interviews.

See some foreign newspaper clippings relating to missing Dr Who episodes.

Copy and paste one of Douglas Wulf's excellent publicity texts and post it up in a relevant country.

Let us know about any publicity you have raised.

Make some suggestions as to how we can raise further publicity.

While it is true that the search for missing episodes has been going on for many years, we should all take stock of the fact that for many of those years we did not have the power of the WWW at our command. So tell your buddies about the forum! The more people we have working together the greater our chances of seeing something recovered.

Brian Wilson,
Belfast.

[Darren Menzie]

I have noticed that Ian Lavene has said on his forum that the films have all been checked and they all turned out to hold local content.
quote
"There are no missing Doctor Who episodes in Zambia.
The only film there is all local programming.
It has all ben investigated fully.
End of story."
end quote

Any truth in this?

[Richard Bignell]

darren said:

I have noticed that Ian Lavene has said on his forum that the films have all been checked and they all turned out to hold local content.
quote
"There are no missing Doctor Who episodes in Zambia.
The only film there is all local programming.
It has all ben investigated fully.
End of story."
end quote

Any truth in this?

To be fair, Ian doesn't actually say that they've been "checked" at all.

I suspect that his "investigated fully" line is based on the fact that he probably gave them a quick telephone call 15 years ago and they told him that they didn't have anything.

Which indeed they may not.

Richard

[Darren Menzie]

Indeed, You are right!
I had just assumed Mr Lavene was talking about the 'infamous mystery boxes of film'.
My mistake!

[Doug Wulf]

richardbignell said:

darren said:

I have noticed that Ian Lavene has said on his forum that the films have all been checked and they all turned out to hold local content.
quote
"There are no missing Doctor Who episodes in Zambia.
The only film there is all local programming.
It has all ben investigated fully.
End of story."
end quote

Any truth in this?

To be fair, Ian doesn't actually say that they've been "checked" at all.

I suspect that his "investigated fully" line is based on the fact that he probably gave them a quick telephone call 15 years ago and they told him that they didn't have anything.

Which indeed they may not.

Richard

Absolutely. It could very well appear outwardly that there is no missing material in the archives in Zambia. It is only that with the level of chaos that seems to exist in archives in places such as Zambia and Uganda, something of value could possibly have been overlooked. These are interesting places to investigate, but it would again only be by accident that episodes would have survived there.

[Ian Levine]

richardbignell said:

To be fair, Ian doesn't actually say that they've been "checked" at all.

I suspect that his "investigated fully" line is based on the fact that he probably gave them a quick telephone call 15 years ago and they told him that they didn't have anything.

Which indeed they may not.

Richard

Oh Richard, you're such good value.

I spoke to Sue Malden within the last week, who told me that she has made extensive enquiries and been absolutely assured that these cans are all containing local programming, and this repository contains no overseas film whatsoever.

Please refrain from speaking on my behalf, Richard.

[Richard Bignell]

Well, given that you didn't make any mention in your original post about the fact that you'd spoken to Sue Malden and they were her observations, you can hardly blame people of they take what you say with a large pinch of salt!

Richard

[Doug Wulf]

ianlevine said:

richardbignell said:

To be fair, Ian doesn't actually say that they've been "checked" at all.

I suspect that his "investigated fully" line is based on the fact that he probably gave them a quick telephone call 15 years ago and they told him that they didn't have anything.

Which indeed they may not.

Richard

Oh Richard, you're such good value.

I spoke to Sue Malden within the last week, who told me that she has made extensive enquiries and been absolutely assured that these cans are all containing local programming, and this repository contains no overseas film whatsoever.

Please refrain from speaking on my behalf, Richard.

But Sue Malden also added that she is also checking what is held at the National Archives.

[Ian Levine]

richardbignell said:

Well, given that you didn't make any mention in your original post about the fact that you'd spoken to Sue Malden and they were her observations, you can hardly blame people of they take what you say with a large pinch of salt!

Richard

I don't have to justify my every comment to you Richard, nor do I feel any need to. Take that with a conveyor belt of salt.

[William Martin]

[Ian Levine]

william said:

Yes and that is indeed a conveyor belt of salt.

I'm a little tired of pompous know-it-alls like RB, assuming that just because I don't volunteer to dot every "i" and cross every "t", that they can make assumptions and speak on my behalf.

[Richard Bignell]

ianlevine said:

I'm a little tired of pompous know-it-alls like RB, assuming that just because I don't volunteer to dot every "i" and cross every "t", that they can make assumptions and speak on my behalf.

It's nothing to do with i's and t's, Ian.

It's everything to do with volunteering the most basic of information. That way, people are clear from which direction you're coming from.

Otherwise the assumption, not unreasonably given past experience, is unfortunately going to be that you don't know everything that you so assuredly think you do.

Richard

[Greg H]

So all salt aside, any official word on anything happening? Like a press release? Any news yet?

[Doug Wulf]

gh said:

So all salt aside, any official word on anything happening? Like a press release? Any news yet?

After Ian said that Zambia was case closed, I asked the question on the RT forum as to whether the ZNBC archive had indeed proven to be a dead end. If the place has been checked and there is nothing there, perhaps ZNBC could then be put to rest as a possibility. There was no reply to my query, so maybe there is some continuing activity on this, but who can say?