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Post by Martin Dunne on May 13, 2006 2:09:01 GMT
Wow, cool--got the players as well? Sounds like you could have a right weekend of it!
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Post by LanceM on May 17, 2006 7:05:11 GMT
I have a source who claims to posess quad tapes from the BBC, not date specific. But the seller is located in the USA, and said that the quads were from a us television station. He is currently trying to sell the collection .Could there be any missing material there ? Color Pertwees ? Was Out of the Unknown ever aired in the states ? What else could there be missing that might of aired in the US ? Anyone have any ideas ?
Lance.
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on May 18, 2006 20:54:57 GMT
Lance: Yes it's possible. Early colour Pertwees were broadcast on WNED 17 in New York, in fact it's TV recordings from that source that form part of the colour reconstruction of many early Pertwees (including The Silurians, Terror of the Autons) ... this is worth pursuing! Reportedly WNED destroyed their tapes, but you dont't know for sure!
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Post by stevewilliams on May 19, 2006 1:34:31 GMT
Lance: Yes it's possible. Early colour Pertwees were broadcast on WNED 17 in New York, in fact it's TV recordings from that source that form part of the colour reconstruction of many early Pertwees (including The Silurians, Terror of the Autons) ... this is worth pursuing! Reportedly WNED destroyed their tapes, but you dont't know for sure! TVOntario, the best source of missing Pertwees, hung on to all the Whos that had only aired once, Daemons was missing because it had been aired once as an omnibus and later as a series during Judith Merrill's program. It was probably not wiped until after some Pertwees had been returned to the BBC regretably. Most stations in the 80's, to make room, donated their Quad tapes to a recycling company that turned them into Band Aids for Third world countries, (among other uses) - thus the likely fate of CBC and WNED's tapes. In answer to Martin, yes I have an Ampex AVR1, once used for on-air playback by CBLT. In addition to the unit itself I also obtained a complete set of circuit board spares plus several heads, some new. Quad heads have a life of 600 hours maximum. Currently the internal compressor has a broken valve so I'll have to go to Canadian Tire to buy one to use externally. For power the unit requires a full 15 amps at 240 volts, it's connected to the oven panel.... Some people collect and maintain classic cars, I collect and maintain obsolete video recorders, such as the sony 1/2" and Technicolor and V-Cord units.  |
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Post by Martin Dunne on May 19, 2006 3:13:46 GMT
Riddle me this, Batman--have you published on this? If not and if it hasn't been written up, will you publish on this? It's certainly interesting enough!
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Post by LanceM on May 19, 2006 6:31:14 GMT
I sent the guy an offer for hios BBC broadcast tapes. And I have a friend in the Communications Department at a College near by who said they have the equiptment to view the material, and that viewing the tapes should be fine. So, that is good news indeed. I will keep you guys posted on his reply.
Lance
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Post by trantisthemoxx on Jun 9, 2006 16:12:18 GMT
Ask and you shall receive:
WNED started with The Silurians on 10/25/1977- 11/2/1977
Ambassadors-11/3 -11/11
Terror of the Autons- 11/23- 11/19
Mind of Evil- 11/30- 12/7
Daemons 12/22-12/29
Repeat
Silurians 2/6/1978- 2/14/1978
Ambassadors 2/15- 2/24
Autons 3/8- 3/13
Evil 3/14- 3/21
Daemons 4/5- 4/11
Unfortunately my info runs out there since the Buffalo News stopped giving individual episode info, but I think they kept repeating those Pertwees until October of 1978 when I think the 98 Bakers started.
As for those tapes, well...there is a stack of 200 or so quads in the tape library at WNED. I've checked about 30 or so but it's a lot of work opening them up and displacing them so I could get to more. They have labels but no Doctor Who from what I've seen and most of them I can't even get to. With a few persons helping it could be checked in a matter of hours, but no one really cares. I think most of the tapes either came from TVO or some other educational channel.
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Post by georgel on Jul 12, 2006 23:13:05 GMT
Ask and you shall receive: As for those tapes, well...there is a stack of 200 or so quads in the tape library at WNED. I've checked about 30 or so but it's a lot of work opening them up and displacing them so I could get to more. They have labels but no Doctor Who from what I've seen and most of them I can't even get to. With a few persons helping it could be checked in a matter of hours, but no one really cares. I think most of the tapes either came from TVO or some other educational channel. I am new here but not to Doctor Who, having watched those episodes on WNED when they first aired and hooked me on WHO for life. While I don't have a lot of spare time, I'd spend some going through the archives. Let me know. - George |
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Post by georgel on Jul 12, 2006 23:18:44 GMT
And, regarding Pertwee on WNED, its my recollection that they aired all but his final season before starting Tom Baker. They later ran the entire series including then accessible Hartnell and Troughton episodes.
- George
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Post by Bobby Clark (synthpopalooza) on Jul 13, 2006 3:43:31 GMT
Ask and you shall receive: WNED started with The Silurians on 10/25/1977- 11/2/1977 Ambassadors-11/3 -11/11 Terror of the Autons- 11/23- 11/19 Mind of Evil- 11/30- 12/7 Daemons 12/22-12/29 Repeat Silurians 2/6/1978- 2/14/1978 Ambassadors 2/15- 2/24 Autons 3/8- 3/13 Evil 3/14- 3/21 Daemons 4/5- 4/11 Unfortunately my info runs out there since the Buffalo News stopped giving individual episode info, but I think they kept repeating those Pertwees until October of 1978 when I think the 98 Bakers started. As for those tapes, well...there is a stack of 200 or so quads in the tape library at WNED. I've checked about 30 or so but it's a lot of work opening them up and displacing them so I could get to more. They have labels but no Doctor Who from what I've seen and most of them I can't even get to. With a few persons helping it could be checked in a matter of hours, but no one really cares. I think most of the tapes either came from TVO or some other educational channel. Is there any way we can get ahgold of the TV GUIDE magazines from those years, and double check which episodes were aired? Would TV GUIDE even provide those sorts of details? That's an idea. |
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Post by Martin Dunne on Jul 14, 2006 4:39:22 GMT
This is one more for Buffalo locals, or possibly someone with access to the Library of Congress. There'll be more listings info published than the Buffalo News, so keep plugging. It's not impossible that the station itslef could be a source.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Sept 8, 2006 22:35:58 GMT
TVOntario, the best source of missing Pertwees, hung on to all the Whos that had only aired once, Daemons was missing because it had been aired once as an omnibus and later as a series during Judith Merrill's program. Just spotted this old thread. What TVO aired is quite well documented- and I think it's even listed in Virgin's Doctor Who handbooks (either the Third Doctor Handbook, or as an addendum in the Seventh). There is no indication that they ever aired Dæmons. The aired two "seasons" of Pertwee material. September 1976 to March 1977 they aired (in this order): The Three Doctors The Day of the Daleks The Curse of Peladon The Claws of Axos The Mutants The Time Warrior (26 episodes, if I can do my math!) And the next year they aired: The Time Monster The Green Death Death to the Daleks The Monster of Peladon Planet of the Spiders (28 episodes, same disclaimer) I provide broadcast information to the www.geos.tv, and the dates and broadcast times for the 1st episode in each serial are there. I do recall the later Pertwee repeats, during the Merrill (Baker) era, but it was always material that had already been aired. |
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Sept 8, 2006 22:36:43 GMT
This is one more for Buffalo locals, or possibly someone with access to the Library of Congress. There'll be more listings info published than the Buffalo News, so keep plugging. It's not impossible that the station itslef could be a source. WNED listings were quite well detailed in the Toronto papers at the time. Should be available in various Canadian archives. |
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Post by LanceM on Sept 11, 2006 17:01:52 GMT
Found a quote on the net:
During the 1970’s and 80’s, videotapes produced on 2" tape were stored in an old mortuary building alongside films with no environmental controls. She concluded her presentation with tours of the CBC’s new 2" videotape transfer lab and vaults. This extensive facility has been constructed to transfer the 2" collection of videotape to digital Betacam as well as restore and properly refrigerate the aging collection of materials on film.
Is this archive they spoke of the central CBC archive ? Does anyone know any more about this archive ? Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks, Lance.
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Post by Nicholas Fitzpatrick on Sept 13, 2006 2:23:06 GMT
Ah, you've been reading www.smpte.org/sections_chapters/toronto/pastmeet/jun10_97.htmNot really sure, but that's about the time the new CBC HQ opened in Toronto, when they would have centralized virtually everything. I don't know details, but I know people who do. And everything is archived, catalogued, and there is nothing to speak of, and little chance of finding anything, particularly an 16-mm film print from 1965 ... it would have likely been shipped back to BBC in Toronto in 1965. The only mysteries to come out of CBC relate to their paper archives, which I hear are sitting in storage somewhere in Downsview ... that might yield some history ... but nothing more. The best question to ask yourself, is what became of the BBC Enterprises offices in Toronto. But given that they are the ones who had Inferno ... it's not like they were unware of the issue! |
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